Nasal Discharge and Motion Sickness

[Amy27]

She doesn't get pellets, just greens and hay. I have seen her eat a few pieces of hay here and there, but not a lot.

 

[Maureen Las]

then you need to talk to the vet and use your own judgement . Cisapride is safer than reglan but still a gut stimulant...

 

[Amy27]

I struggled with this all day and I decided to give it. I am going to watch her closely and if I see any signs of pain, she won't have another dose.

I can't talk to my vet until Monday. I guess she had some complications and is not coming in tomorrow.

I was so mentally just done with all of this today that I called the vet tech who helped me with Chase and she came over after work. She is so amazing. We got lots of sub q's in the Little Bunny. I told her what was going on and she took a list of the symptoms and meds back to her vet office where she works to a vet who does basic rabbit care. He felt the meds were safe to give and that I should give them. Hearing another opinion really helped. He also recommended I get x-rays as there could be something else going on.

It is times like these that make you realize how great people are. You guys and the vet tech have helped me so much. I don't know what I would do without you guys.

Crossing my fingers this drug works. If she doesn't eat by tomorrow they are going to give me all her meds in injectable form. Incase they are not working because her GI tract isn't absorbing anything.

 

[Maureen Las]

I think that you did the right thing because you explored different options and thought it out ..

I also think there is something else going on with Little Bunny butI don't know what .

Ithink she should have a very thorough ear exam because of the car ride. incident

"Hugs
"
Maureen
You are going through hell
but holding up well ray:

 

[tonyshuman]

Yeah, the second opinion was a great idea. I remember BethM going through such little appetite with Nick when he was on Zithromax too, and it was such an excruciating, scary wait for the medicine to be done and his gut to improve. In any case, hang in there. :hugs:

 

[Amy27]

I decided not to do the second opinion. Because I knew, come monday I would take her back to the other vet. So I just decided to wait. Plus I didn't have the money to go to a vet today and monday. They wanted me to give meds via injection so I picked that today. Wasn't a fun day as I ended up arguing with the vet tech. She just kept telling me what they wanted me to do and I wanted more information. I demanded answers to some questions where she just kept beating around the bush.

But it was all worth it when Little Bunny ate really good tonight. She went crazy eating, like she was starving. I am sure she was considering it has been 7 days now. I am trying to not get as excited as I did last time because that didn't last long. But this time she was really eating like crazy and ate a lot. So I am hoping.

If she only eats greens will she have mushy poops? I am just wondering if I should encourage her to eat some hay or let her eat whatever she wants.

Thank you guys for all your help. This was really rough for me and Little Bunny. I was really upset today as the vet tech was telling me that at this point she may not go back to normal with her GI tract since it was off track for so long and with everyday she has a less chance of survival and going back to normal.

Cross your fingers she keeps eating.

 

[Amy27]

She is still eating. She is taking a break here and there to throw some stuff around her cage but keeps going back and eating. I can't believe how much she has eaten.

 

[Maureen Las]

that's realy great
if she had been used to eating a lot of greens before her problems then the greens should be Ok but I would continue to try to get her to eat hay and pellets too(I know that you probably are )

lets

hope for the best ray:

andI admire that yu are questioining the tech and not just letting her tell you what they are doing ; that is he way all of us should work to be ...

 

[Flashy]

I'm so glad she is eating that's a huge relief

Remember that Randy has said on many occassions he has had buns not eat for a week but if they are hydrated then they can come out ok, so try not to panic too much over the vet tech and what s/he said.

 

[BethM]

Flashy wrote:

I'm so glad she is eating that's a huge relief

Remember that Randy has said on many occassions he has had buns not eat for a week but if they are hydrated then they can come out ok, so try not to panic too much over the vet tech and what s/he said.

We recently took a bunny into our rescue, and the day she came in was hugely stressful for her. (She came into the rescue, was introduced to a bondmate, and was separated from her two (adult) babies, who were adopted out that day.) She did not eat for about 10 days. Her foster mom tried everything to get her to eat, but settled on just keeping her hydrated. She eventually started eating again, and is now doing quite well.

I am really glad that Little Bunny is eating again! I hope she continues to feel better.

 

[tonyshuman]

Yay for eating!

 

[Amy27]

Thanks guys. I am happy to know that Little Bunny should be able to make a full recovery. She seems to be doing a good job of it so far. She is still eating good and she had some normal poops.

 

[Amy27]

I was cleaning Little Bunny's cage and noticed she had some loose stool. I noticed she kept licking her butt or doing something down there, so I flipped her over and she is really red and inflammed down there. I am confused about why she would be irritated down there. She had normal poops last night to. Should I give her a butt bath? She doesn't have poop stuch down there.

 

[Pipp]

What is her pee looking like and is she straining to pee at all?

Reading this thread from the top I'm the most concerned about two things -- unless I'm missing something, the vet should have cultured the nasal discharge, and should have done head x-rays using a sedative. My vet never uses gas for procedures like that, he uses Domitor to put them under and another drug to bring them out of it.

Is she on Metacam? Up until now most of her problems seem to have been head-based, but it is possible she has sludge or a urinary tract infection or something, or she could be dribbling because of the drugs -- Metacam in particular slows the blood flow to the kidneys. I know it's caused Pipp to strain to pee in the past and may have caused dribbling. The irritation would be urine scald. Just a thought.

Do you have photos?


sas ray:

 

[Pipp]

Amy27 wrote:

She had normal poops last night to. Should I give her a butt bath? She doesn't have poop stuch down there.

PS: She can have normal poops and runny cecals all at the same time.

 

[Amy27]

I just looked at again and I think it might be urine scald. She has urine on her foot and I noticed some break down of the hair. I will go take some pics right now and post them.

The vet took a culture a few months ago. But I want another culture before putting her on another antibiotic. She was on metacam during all this so maybe that is doing it. I know her bottom wasn't irritated yesterday. Today she just won't leave it alone.

 

[Pipp]

If the 'root' of the problem is a head abscess, she'd be needing strong antibiotics for months to knock it out -- usually a injectable/oral combo.

And Metacam really really needs to be administered with food and a lot of water.

What does her pee look like? It shouldn't have red strings in it, be pasty white or be completely clear, either.


sas :?

 

[Pipp]

Oh, and a butt bath or just a warm wash cloth will make her more comfortable, and maybe some cornstarch to keep her dry.


sas

 

[Amy27]

The pictures are not that great but I hope they help.

Pictures of her bottom

This is her foot

The spot on her foot where the hair is gone

And everything

I am going to have to give her a bath. The hair on her feet is really hard and dirty. Can I just clean her in water or do I have to use some type of soap.

It is hard for me to see her urine in the litter box as her litter is dark. It does look like in one spot that her urine is dark orange. She was on sub q's most of the time she was on the metacam and I was giving her critical care but I don't know if it was enough.

 

[Pipp]

I'd take the litter away and just have paper or plastic there in order to check.

And the sub-q would be plenty for supporting the metacam therapy, the Critical Care (well soaked) supplies even more fluids so it shouldn't be a problem.

Definitely no soap. I'd just use a warm washcloth, easier, safer and less stressful.


sas :bunnydance: