Our Clan...now & always..

[kahlin]

I don't know...I know my Lindor took a while to get it out of her system, but she didn't have it as bad as Dougal.

 

[Orchid]

Well lets see hmmmm.

Smushy poo today, but it seems to have a pattern, odd as that may seem..

Dougal has started again with the runs...not just icky cecals, but the actual runs...not total liquid, but getting close. Only seems to hit at certain times of the day...Like after 8am and on....till the afternoon ish...
Started back 3 days ago.
His drinking has slacked off along with his eating...BUT
He will eat any and all oats you give him...He will drink some water when I add the white grape juice to it...and today he seems to be eating and drinking better...
I am concerned the cocci has come back...could it be he has some sort of tolerance to the Albon?
It is like it got better and still came back. He has been on the Albon since we went to the vet on the 13 and his last dose is the 26th...
I am unsure what to think....

wanted to start themix of mana, wheat germ, oats..and maybe something I am forgetting...
I had been thinking of trying to buy it all and start giving it to him to help make sure he is gaining enough weight...but I am not sure I should now.
I have been boiling any water he gets...and of course letting it cool before he gets it...
We have been cleaning and changing his pans...scooping out poop when we see it...Using hand sanatizer etc...

Had to take out the carpet because we have noticed he is picking up strands and eating them....so we rolled it up and have it sitting in Angelina room for now...sigh...

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After chatting withCathy/BlueGiants...

I decided to ditch the oxbow hays and try for a fresh bale. I was able to find one place that is an ok drive to get to...A compressed 50lb bale of timothy/alfalfa hay...cost only like 12 bucks! Picked up the probiotic stuff for horses...it is like double the amount and more then less then half the cost...awesome...the calf mana they said whenthey have it even cheaper then at the tractor supply store. HE was also trying to talk me into starting a pellet they sell..
yeah..all good and well but I can not even get hisstomach settled on the rather plain diet he is already on...not going togo changing his pellets right now....I do not think I will period...unless something health related makes a difference with that choice.

Stopping everything except the bene....

He has been coming and going from the hay...which is more than I could say before..
The Brome did smell like vinegar..made me wonder...

Makes me wonder about all oxbow products really...

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The poopies have been irregular again since this started, but a good amount of them are uniform, round, firm...
He is being picky with the hays again...one minute he will eat the brome and the next he will not go near it...we have 5 kinds and I keep switching a bit to keep his interest..

I had been giving - Welchs, 100% White Grape Juice, from concentrate with added ingredients. - No Sugar Added - 120% Vitamin C
Says on label - total fat 0, sodium 1%, Total Carb 13% with this listed with it -Sugars 38g**, Protein 0g
The ** says contains natural fruit sugars only
No Artifical flavors or colors added.
Says it is easier on young stomachs than apple juice.

I did stop the SubQ, but I could start it again if we have to. I do have the supplies left for at least a few days more...maybe 3? Could possibly pick up more if needed...

I stopped the Bio Sponge...so he missed one dose yesterday...I just could not get it into him any more...he started spitting it back out, not swallowing etc a few days ago...no matter what I put it in or tried to do.
I Gave him more Bene Bac today just cause...but that was supposed to end yesterday too.
The pain meds we stopped awhile ago, but I might have a day or two.
LOL- I never bothered to smell it before, but yeah it smells like cake batter...We have a bunch left for now..supposed to stop that on Thursday.

He has had nothing at all since he came to us except for the pellets, oxbows hays, and the generic brand of Oats from Walmart I think it might be...Not the instant kind.
No carrots, greens, not even the papaya tablets...Since we have not been able to achieve a healthy norm without meds I was not going to try anything new....

Every thing was exactly the same when it went from 1 day to the next and everything went to smush again. Nothing had changed at that time...I started adding the WHite Grape to the water when I saw he was slacking off...he tends to pass it up really though...odd boy that he is...and it is very very diluted...like maybe...1cc? to a little more then a half of cup of boiled water...


So yeah I am stopping the Albon for now..giving his system a rest....and the White Grape...already took it away..and just the plain boiled water for him...

This is the site I found on the new hay we are trying out..
http://www.standleehay.com/home.aspx

His poos have seemed normal for awhile now.
He was acting slightly strange earlier,...running and hiding from us...but he stopped.
Any time he knows we are in his cage he tends to get upset...he will nudge you and push..jump back in and get right in your way...lol
He made cleaning and disinfecting everything again today quite a chore.
This cage attitude he has worries me slightly for when he is older...maybe he will grow out of it.
Angelina and Dougal are bonding well to eachother...it helped he starting licking her now...she feels so relieved and happy. Awesome what a bunny can do...

He will come up to the couch, but only stays a minute..he did flop right against the couch on the floor, right below where my head/hands were....I thought that was sweet of him.

I used the vanodine my friend sent me today to clean up everything...though now I am totally out of litter...BAH!

Well...we have hay to last quite some time..(please please please eat it a lot) and a pellet he is eating REALLY well...a cup or more, maybe up to 2 cups per day on an awesome day...now I just need to stock on litter and we should be good...unless his health takes a dip...

I am looking forward to the show in Sanford more and more and just can not wait to attend!

I have a bunch of pictures to get up...will try to do that next...and I just LOVE LOVE LOVE my new avatar of him! I got him perfect when he took a stretch with a peice of hay in his mouth! Super cute if you ask me

 

[Orchid]

Maybe I can grab it and run...darn she looked..

oooo I wanna pair..but in more manly colors..

The little mommy likes to hold me...and well I let her...makes her smile and all...

ok so I have a small sock fetish...leave me alone..

HA...cant see me!!! I hide here and eat the carpet!!

Do I look like a doll? Seriously do I? Are we playing house here or what?

Leave me to my lazy ways...

I do so like my evening snacks...

AH, you touched me...now I must clean you away

Must you watch EVERYTHING I do? Must you?

The little mommy does so like it when I am near her...

sigh...my castle...torn down and destroyed...(I better get another one you human you! I shall pee where I want!!

IT JINGLES!

Do you think I could eat in peace just this once? no?

God you are so like the rabbit paparazzi!

CANT SEE ME!

I think I just might like this stuff...(crunch, munch, crunch...)

You took a picture of POOP! What is WRONG WITH YOU!

God...here we go again..

Is...is that for ME?!?

DINNER....has been served...

Be gone with you now!

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH...that felt goooooood

 

[kahlin]

Love the pictures. Although I'm a bit jealous that you have such a clean house with no hay everywhere. I swear some days we have extra carpet - consisting of a layer of hay.

 

[Orchid]

Thanks!
Ah well see I HAVE to keep it decently free of the hay. I am very allergic to everything under the sun...except for some rabbits and mold. The dust, the hay itself drives me crazy...My daughter has severe dust allergies as well.
I forgot who said it, but someone here on RO I think put it best...that you just want to shove a toilet bowl brush down your throat to ease the itch inside your back...your throat. The sneezing and congestion...lord it is rather horrible.

I try to clean every day...even if he didnt have cocci I would be picking up and cleaning every day. I vacuum 2-3 times a day...and almost never stop sweeping..

I suppose the best thing out of it all...my daughter will know how to keep her house clean one day lol...

 

[Orchid]

HAHAHA..

It would seem Dougal likes to hang out in the glider chair in the living room...he will jump up and sit down..(It is where Lina sits most) He will sit there and lick it to death too....FUNNY!

 

[tonyshuman]

Nice pics! You might want to start an Infirmary thread about his cocci problem, to get the input of others who don't read the blogs often. I don't have a lot of experience with it.

 

[Orchid]

Thanks, but I have thought of it and decided not to.

Between the exp rabbit people here and my Vet I think we have it covered and I do not see a point to asking questions I already have the general answer to...
Would rather they help people that know much less than me.

I consider myself lucky enough to have some great knowledgable friends on here..and a good vet..

 

[BlueGiants]

LOVE the photo's! What a HANDSOME boy! That looks like nice green hay you got! The timothy/alfalafa mix will do him some good, especially while he is growing so much right now.

Don't worry about his cage attitude right now. I think he's just playing with you... most of the boys are pretty tolerant of any one "invading " their space. And he is still so young and playful...

I think you are doing a good thing tosimplify things for a day or so... let his system calm down and see if it adjusts without all the "help". Most cocci treatments are 5 days on, 3 days off, 5 days on... for him to be on it for almost 2 weeks straight is intense.

Thanks for sharing all the photos! He has quite the personality!

 

[Orchid]

BlueGiants wrote:

LOVE the photo's! What a HANDSOME boy! That looks like nice green hay you got! The timothy/alfalafa mix will do him some good, especially while he is growing so much right now.

Don't worry about his cage attitude right now. I think he's just playing with you... most of the boys are pretty tolerant of any one "invading " their space. And he is still so young and playful...

I think you are doing a good thing tosimplify things for a day or so... let his system calm down and see if it adjusts without all the "help". Most cocci treatments are 5 days on, 3 days off, 5 days on... for him to be on it for almost 2 weeks straight is intense.

Thanks for sharing all the photos! He has quite the personality!

Thanks! he is a handsome guy and I think he knows and exploits IT!!!

It is so green right? I was like wow this cant be real lol...So used to oxbow crap and man it seems like crap now compared to how fresh this seems (and smells from a distance)

ok...I just hope it stays playful...

He has actually been out since like about noon-ish...about 5 almost now..he has been hanging out at the edge where the carpet goes to hardwood...we have a nic fence and litter pan over there...kind behind my glider chair...he has been back in there almost all day..but ok.

He has come out to play...keeps trying to eat Angelina's letters to her Family in NY....lol I warned her though not to let him actually get at any of it...the pencils, the pink erasers etc...

Well already the poop seems to be improving...lots of cecal piles thatcould have become hay pattys if we had not cleaned up..but it is not smushy as before...he does have that stinky smell following though...keep joking we should have named him Stinky Butt instead of Dougal lol...

Trying the Vanilla in the water but he turned his nose at it...so oh well...we will see what the next day or so brings...

Thanks!!

 

[Yurusumaji]

Your baby is so adorable. :hearts

Hope he continues to progress.

 

[Orchid]

Thank you! Me too lol...

 

[JadeIcing]

I could say the same for Ringo and Gabriels threads but I think it helps others to learn.It gets so many ideas out there for others who go through it. It also helps to build the library resources.

Orchid wrote:

Thanks, but I have thought of it and decided not to.

Between the exp rabbit people here and my Vet I think we have it covered and I do not see a point to asking questions I already have the general answer to...
Would rather they help people that know much less than me.

I consider myself lucky enough to have some great knowledgable friends on here..and a good vet..

 

[Orchid]

JadeIcing wrote:

I could say the same for Ringo and Gabriels threads but I think it helps others to learn.It gets so many ideas out there for others who go through it. It also helps to build the library resources.

Orchid wrote:

Thanks, but I have thought of it and decided not to.

Between the exp rabbit people here and my Vet I think we have it covered and I do not see a point to asking questions I already have the general answer to...
Would rather they help people that know much less than me.

I consider myself lucky enough to have some great knowledgable friends on here..and a good vet..

If there is a benefit for others...sure!

I posted as much from my blog as I thought relevant

 

[Orchid]

SOOOOOOOOOO...

Dougal is out in the living room for like 6 hours now doing almost anything he wants...ok...

So I bring his food and water dishes out of the crate and onto the carpet and what does he do??? Yes that is right he goes back into the crate, some how squeezes himself behind the litter pan and hides...lol..OKKKKK

So yeah I think I will be putting the food and water back in there and closing him up...

Man is he picky eh?
lol

 

[Yurusumaji]

He's playing hide-and-go-seek! :laugh:

 

[Orchid]

Yurusumaji wrote:

He's playing hide-and-go-seek! :laugh:

It is rather funny to see him try to squeeze himself into the TINY space...I will have to get a picture of it next time he tries...

Lets see him do that when he grows a bit...lord I hope he doesnt make a habit of this or he could get himself stuck one day lol...

 

[JadeIcing]

Orchid wrote:

JadeIcing wrote:

I could say the same for Ringo and Gabriels threads but I think it helps others to learn.It gets so many ideas out there for others who go through it. It also helps to build the library resources.

Orchid wrote:

Thanks, but I have thought of it and decided not to.

Between the exp rabbit people here and my Vet I think we have it covered and I do not see a point to asking questions I already have the general answer to...
Would rather they help people that know much less than me.

I consider myself lucky enough to have some great knowledgable friends on here..and a good vet..

If there is a benefit for others...sure!

I posted as much from my blog as I thought relevant

:hug::highfive:

 

[TinysMom]

Orchid wrote:

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH...that felt goooooood

I SOOOO want to steal this little sweetie and bring him home - I can't believe how adorable he is.

I hope he brings you lots of joy - cause I love to hear/read about him....

 

[Orchid]