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I have calmed down from the initial shock, but I am more frantic than ever while I am watching him slowly go downhill and I was just told by my parents that they aren't going to give me adimeto help me with hiscare. I feel like I am stuck in between a rock and a hard place and me andChance have nowhere to go.

Having him euthanized is something that I can't imagine doing even though that day appears to be coming. I feel like I would be letting him down. I feel like a failure for not having the money and I feel like a POS for allowing him to suffer and not being able to fix it. I look at him and all he wants is to feel better and be healthy, and I want to try so hard to make that happen.

If he dies, or if he's euthanized, I will NEVER be able to live with myself and say I did everything I could. Because I'll never feel like I did.
 
I know there will be those who will disagree with me - and those who will agree. To those who disagree - I understand where you come from.

But after having been on a list for owners of disabled rabbits and hearing people talk about how "it was time" to let a rabbit pass on....and now having experienced it with GingerSpice...I understand what they mean.

I honestly believe that there are times when an animal can want to give up the fight and pass on. They're tired and their bodies just can't take it anymore. They are in pain and suffering and while we want to keep them here for our sakes - they want us to let them go.

I'm not saying Chance is at that point. I'm not saying he is going to get to that point.

But when it comes - you will know it. You'll see it in his eyes or in some other way.

They say that the best way to judge when it is time to let a sick or disabled rabbit pass on is by the three A's:

Appetite - are they eating? Do they show an interest in eating?

Affection - Are they affectionate with either another rabbit or their humans? Do they still show affection? If not - do they still receive affection?

Alertness - Are they at all alert to what is going on around them? Or are they trying to sleep all the time simply because they are in pain?

As I look back upon GingerSpice's last week with us - I see where the signs were there. She no longer wanted to eat and I would try to force her to eat. She wanted to sleep. She would allow me to pet her but she did not enjoy it like she used to. She was simply too weak to go on.

Making the decision to stop force feeding her and just offer her a bit of water - and then to let her pass in her sleep that night was one of the hardest things I ever did. I was prepared to take her to the vet if need be, but she was just so tired that I knew she was going to go.

Looking back on it - her passing was peaceful. She was in my arms. She wanted to quit fighting and she wanted to go. She had fought a good fight - she'd tried hard. But her little body could only handle so much.

I still grieve over her and I don't think a day will ever go by when I don't think of her. She was a major "heart bunny" to me.

But I realize that in letting her go - I did the kindest thing I could do for her....because it was what she wanted. She tried to fight that last week - for me. But when she knew I was going to let her pass - she was at peace and those last few hours were precious.

I'm praying for you - and I'm praying for Chance. I'd love to see him pull through and make it....but if he is suffering and won't make it....I would rather see him be allowed to pass so he won't live a life that is filled with suffering.

Ginger held on that last week because I forced her to - but she was so unhappy. Her quality of life was not at all what she was used to.

I don't regret letting her pass - I regret forcing her to hold on those last few days - because I wasn't thinking of her pain - I was thinking of mine.

Peg
 
You have done all you can. I was talking to the lady from the rescue I foster for yesterday, we were talking about some of the bad cases they have had. She said sometimes all you can do is give them love and a place to call theres. You have so do not feel that way. We know you love him and that you have done your best.That is all you can do.



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Peg, your story with GingerSpice is one I have thought a lot about lately, and one I will always remember as it is truly unforgettable (as is GingerSpice).

I think I'll go ahead and really put down my line of thinking. Forgive me if this comes out jumbled, my brain is jammed in neutral right now.

Early last week, before Chance got this bad, me and my friend who owns the rabbit rescue were having a talk. And we were talking about her first rabbit Magic, who died years back. This is why the rescue is nmed MAGIC Happens Rescue, in honor of Magic. She said when he died, how she knew that he had been loved and had several years of love and that was pretty much all he knew his entire life.

I said that I had gotten Harper when he was just around 6 months old.And while he had been abused, it hadn't been for very long (such as years) like it had been for Chance. Harper is now nearly 2.5 years old and has been with me for two years. He's pretty much known nothing but love since he was a baby and has been spoiled rotten since he was just6 months old.

I told her if anything were to happen to Harper, I would miss him so dearly, but I would know that as of now, he's had a pretty darn good life and I only would look back on it with happiness, knowing he was very loved and well taken care of.

With Chance, I don't feel that. I've only had him about 2.5 weeks now,and his time with me has been with him mostly in vets offices and having medicine shoved down his throat. Yes, he's been loved and spoiled, but only 2.5 weeks? I want him to experience what Harper has experienced.

I'm not anywhere near the point with Chance that I am with Harper,meaning if something were to happen, I could only look back at our life together with happiness. There has just been so little of it, and he's been sick nearly the entire time.

Peg, you do have a great point, and a very true one. And I've always admired and respected your outlook with your fur babies, and especially in your loss of GingerSpice. While Chance is getting weaker, he still adores our cuddle time and still does his best to follow me around the house. This tells me that while he is weak and tired, he still wants to fight and try.

One thing you guys will have to do is bear with me. Like many other members here, I've never had to go through losing a rabbit, especially a heart bunny. We've lost ones occassionally at the shelter, but the feelings are nowhere near the same.

One thing we know about Chance is that he's at least YEARS old, not month old. The vet said probably between 2-4 years. For years he was neglected, in pain, suffering, and never knew the meaning of love. The condition I got him in from the pound was so horrible, the newspaper wanted to do an article on him to show some of the neglect animals go through in silence.

I just feel that his life has been so hard, so rough, and so horrible,he deserves more than just2.5 weeks of happiness But he also doesn't deserve pain, and he's not happy if he's suffering, I realize this.

But if and when he goes, I'm not at the point that I can say I tried everything, or that I did everything I could. Not with my vet telling me there may be a chance of him getting healthy if I could get to the LSU vet. But I can't afford it, and not many people could. 5yearsago my mother's dacshund had her back go out completely and LSU did the surgery. $4,000 later, the dog was healed. $4,000! My mother tookout a loan for the money, a loan she just finished paying back not long ago.

So doing everything I can, and saying I tried my hardest, isn't enough if he dies. Trying my hardest, to me, would mean that I would've taken him to the clinic that my vet is telling me to go to for treatment.

I feel liked I have failed, and that'sa feeling I can't help.I was told the other night by a 'friend' that I should've never taken him if I couldn't afford it. Well, i started off fostering him because MY vet agreed to treat him for free. Anyone that would've fostered him and brought him to their vet wouldn't have paid for weekly urinalysis,fecal tests, blood work, xrays, medications, ect. I know, all of our volunteers are poor, and many are college students.

At the shelter, we are struggling to adopt out young, healthy,beautiful rabbits. And no one wants them. Do you think someone would've passed those healthy rabbits up and instead, adopted a rabbit in pitiful condition, full of health problems, and need hundreds of dollars in vet care? I don't think so.

In the end, I'm not sure what to think. Right now I'm mostly feeling like a failure to him, and I'm telling him I'm so sorry that he had to come into my life, and not someone else's life that would've been better equipped and financially able to help him. Ican't even look at him and tell him I tried my best, because it feels like a complete lie.
 
Hon - as long as he is still cuddling- then fight for him - of course!

In my case - I MADE GingerSpice hang in there. Truth be told - I believe she hung in there for me. I believe she knew I needed time to accept the idea of letting her go.

What I didn't realize at the time is that Art knew she needed to be allowed to pass on. That is why he asked me the day before she died,"What will you do if Ginger doesn't need you anymore?"

I thought he meant if she was healthy again - and I was like, "I'd give anything to not see her suffer - to see her not be in pain.." and we talked about how much I wanted her to be whole - to be able to binky again.

He told me later that what he was trying to do - was to prepare me to let her go...because he knew she wanted to leave and was hanging in there for me.

When I finally accepted that Ginger wanted to pass on - and I held her and cried...I think she and I both felt peace - for the first time in days. I know she knew I would be ok with it - that she had permission to leave me.

My point? If Chance gets to the point where he wants you to let him pass....please don't beat yourself up over it. Don't hold onto him like I did GingerSpice.

But as long as he wants to fight - you know we're all here fighting for him too - with our prayers and our thoughts.....

Peg
 
MBH, one of the biggest struggles a pet owner sometimes has is having to consider monetary costs when making a decision. In reading your posts here, it sounds like you've been exploring every avenue possible with regard to that. If in the end you cannot take Chance to the other vet clinic, then know that you have done all that you can for him. I know that Chance hasn't had the same length of quality life that Harper has had, but Chance is not Harper. He's had a wonderful two and a half weeks with you...even it has been going back and forth for tests in between. To have someone as caring and loving as you come into his life after years of abuse would be heaven to any animal, if even for a couple of days....and that much love more than makes up for whatever he went through in his early life.

I'm still saying prayers for your sweet little guy...but remember tha tno matter the length of time that he is here, you have handed him a most precious gift. You've shown him that someone loves him. Many animals don't ever get that - not even once in their lives - but Chance has been given a heartful.

:pray:
 
I asked Peg (TinysMom) if it would be okay to list the links to the ebay auctions I have up for Chance. She asked Pipp and both said it's absolutely fine to do so. So listed below are the links to the items I am selling on ebay to raise monday for Chance.

I'll be putting more up in a little while, including my entire collection of R.L. Stine books (about 150) all in one big lot.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=010&sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT&viewitem=&item=200088425576&rd=1&rd=1

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=010&sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT&viewitem=&item=200088427302&rd=1&rd=1

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=010&sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT&viewitem=&item=200088428056&rd=1&rd=1

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=010&sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT&viewitem=&item=200088429132&rd=1&rd=1

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=010&sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT&viewitem=&item=200088432378&rd=1&rd=1

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=010&sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT&viewitem=&item=200088434322&rd=1&rd=1

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=010&sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT&viewitem=&item=200088435927&rd=1&rd=1

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=010&sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT&viewitem=&item=200088438450&rd=1&rd=1

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=010&sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT&viewitem=&item=200088438988&rd=1&rd=1

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=010&sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT&viewitem=&item=200088439839&rd=1&rd=1

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=010&sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT&viewitem=&item=200088440645&rd=1&rd=1


 
I would go in and edit your auctions (or in your new auctions) and link to the rescue site which has Chance's story. It gives it a bit more ....I can't figure out how to put it - but it supports what you're saying and makes folks understand your auctions aren't a scam...particularly since you don't have a lot of feedback.

Peg
 
I can't, the rescue doesn't have a 501(c)3 and last time the rescue itself tried to do a fundraiser auction, ebay pulled it for not having proper paperwork. Trust me, that was the first thing I thought about.
 
MBH, I've been through some critical illnesses in my human family... and just wanted to pass on something that I'm learning. And that is - it's OK to tell someone you love that it's OK to go. It's also an incredibly difficult thing to do, but there are times that we all need to do it. Many times, people will keep hanging on until they hear that, and know it's OK on your end.

And sometimes, those people recover. But a lot of the time, they don't.

Your love and support for Chance are vital, but you know - critical illness and death are something that we cannot control. Those things are out of our hands completely. And that's OK.

You have not failed Chance in any way - quite the opposite! You adopted him knowing that his health was severely compromised, and knowing that he could go into renal failure at any time. (At least,that's the impression that I've gotten from your posts.) You've given him so much love - more in a single hour than he'd ever had in his lifetime. And he's clearly responded to that!

I'm not going to pretend that I understand what it feels like to be in your shoes right now. But - having had several very close family members pass (and/or be on the edge of death for weeks at a time,fighting conditions that kill most folks), I do know a very little bit about what it's like to experience hope, disbelief, anger, joy - and sadness.

You can let go. I'm not saying that you should give up - that's different. But letting go, and trusting - that's another thing.

My thoughts and prayers are with you and your boys, Danielle.


edit - Amen to this post -

...but remember that no matter the length of time that he is here, you have handed him a most precious gift. You've shown him that someone loves him. Many animals don't ever get that - not even once in their lives - but Chance has been given a heartful.
 
No clue. The initial visit, meaning just the office visit, is $85. I was told initially to expect to pay $600 -$800, but that it could be more depending on which tests are done, ect.
 
Oh hun, Im so sorry youre going through all ofthis. I really do know how you feel. Max and I have been through a lotlately. Ive maxed out my credit card on several occasions. We have petinsurance, but theyve managed to weasel their way out of paying foranything breathing-related because he had allergies before he wassigned up for the policy. If it werent for my boyfriend offering to payhalf of his most recent surgery, I would not have been able to affordit.

I know Ive had a lot of nights where I began to think about what Iwould do when the day came where we just couldnt fight anymore. Likeyou, the thought of having to put himdown just broke myheart. It didnt even seem like an option, no matter how much pain hewas in. I just didnt think I could make that decision.

But we know you have done so much for him, and Im sure he knows it too.In the end, you can only do so much. I'll be keeping you both in myprayers.
 
Thanks for the kind words Haley. I actually gotmy very first credit card just weeks before Harper got sick. Then whenhe got sick, I maxed it out and was turned into the credit bureau. Sonow I have no credit card to use, though I wish I did.

I'm still working on a bunch more ebay auctions to put up, though I'mtrying to wait and see how these do. The insertion fee's are adding up,and I don't want it to eat intowhat little money I make.

I'm so nervous about tomorrow's vet visit, my stomach is in knots and my anxiety is starting to hit me hard tonight.

I feel like tomorrow is Dooms Day or something. :nerves1
 
Is tomorrow the office visit with LSU?

If they feel that there is something they can do for him, maybe askthem if they have a way for people to donate money to them for Chance(like paypal)? That way we could set up some sort of fund for him.People feel a lot better if they know the money is going directly tothe vet.

Let us know how things go. I will be keeping you both in my prayers. We're here for you, no matter what.
 
No, tomorrow is the final visit with my vet. Hehad put Chance on some antibiotics and another urine acidifier, hopingit would help. He was giving it till Monday, if it didn't work, we wereout of options, aside from LSU. I see Chance getting worse, but we'llget the urinalysis results to know how bad it's gotten.

After seeing my vet tomorrow, I will be talking with LSU again to tryand get a closer estimate of the costs, after my vet tells me exactlywhat else could possibly be done over there at LSU.
 
Good luck and God Bless you tomorrow. Keep us posted.

The hard part of all of it is deciding what, if anything, can be doneand what his chances would be of survival. Sometimes all the money inthe world still cant make our babies healthy. I know how heartbrakingand hopeless it feels.

Prayers and hugs for you both. :hug2:
 
Just know that we all will support whatever youdecide for Chance. No matter what the outcome, if he lives for anotherweek, or 10 years, the time he has spent with you is truely a blessing.He knows that you love him, you can see it on his face in the manyphotos you have posted. He knows what love feels like, because of you.

Best of Luck,:clover:

~Star~
 

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