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so I'm trying to find feed stores/horse farms that sell hay that aren't way outside or on the opposite side of town... not a whole lot of luck yet, but I'll keep trying.

can anyone tell me how big a cube of hay is (all I know is "smaller than a bale")? and I've heard people here mention flakes before, how big are those (smaller than a cube, I assume)?

oh, and what are "squares" and "rounds"? I see a site that sells:
  • Coastal Squares
  • Coastal Rounds
  • Alfalfa Squares
  • Alfalfa Large
  • Sudan Round
  • Sudan Squares
  • Straw Squares

basically, I need to know what will fit in this (yes, it's messy >< ):

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well, would still be nice to find out what the sizes mean for future reference, but I found a place that's got a 50 lb thingy of alfalfa for like $17... way more than the bunns will eat before they're too old for it, but even if I throw a bunch away I still come out ahead, so meh.

the place is probably 45 min to an hour away from me, so this better not be more sticks and fluff crap! it's dehydrated alfalfa, they say that's "a high quality chopped alfalfa in 1-5 inches in length, containing more vitamins, minerals, and amino acids than typical sun cured alfalfa."

I figure I'll also see if I can talk them into giving/selling me little samples of their grass hays so I can test them out on the bunnies before I buy something huge.
 
I'm not sure about the alfalfa hay deal. I actually switched Agnes over when she was like 3 months old. She went crazy over Timothy hay! So who knows, maybe your girls will love the hay and it's something new they could bond over.

I wonder what's going on with their fighting? I thought maybe it was an isolated thing so not to seperate them. But i guess with it happening more than once they shouldn't be together. I'm hoping that itnis just grumpiness from being cooped up.
 
well, as I said, I think they probably were playing after all now that I figured out the hair was from Nala suddenly starting to molt... they just have to be separated by a NIC barrier anyway for a bit 'cause I can't have 'em doing bunny 500s and sloshing water everywhere.

I'm displeased with the hay situation, to say the least. it said 1'' to 5'' cuts, so I assumed it was a mix and it's all 1'' and chopped up and I'm kinda worried about the dust. also, they don't like it, I don't think.

it was sealed in a plastic bag so I didn't open it at the place because I didn't want fluff all over my car and I'd already driven all the way out there so I may as well come home with something, you know? was 65 miles round-trip.

they nibbled a little at the coastal and sudan samples I brought home for them, at least.

seriously, though, why is decent alfalfa so hard to find?? between last night and this morning, I've spent about 4 1/2 hours driving around looking for GOOD alfalfa and I've come up dry :(

at this point, I guess I'll just try weaning them over to grass hays early.
 
Lol, I don't think you'll want squares or rounds. They're about 5'x4' and weight 1000-2000 lbs. Definitely wouldn't fit in your car. I'm not sure what they are meaning by a cube of hay. I know there are hay cubes for horses, which are small compressed blocks of hay, so not what you're looking for. If it's not that, it could be like half size bale. So flakes are what the bales can be broken up into for feeding. Generally 4 flakes will feed a 1000 lb. horse per day. There are about 12 flakes in a 50 lb bale. When you call asking about hay, ask how heavy the bales are, what quality it is - good quality horse hay, is it nice and green, has it been wet- don't want any moldy hay, is it weed free. You might be looking for something like a later cut alfalfa. It's actually lower in ptotein, more stemmy, and less nutritious, but typically earlier cuts tend to be more flakey, which I think that is what you are talking about when you say there's fluff. Early cut means the plant is harvested earlier in it's growth, later cut is that it growns longer, hence the thicker stems. There's also 1st, 2nd, 3rd cuts and that just indicates when in the season the hay was cut. If you find something that sounds good to you over the phone, you could always ask if they have a picture of it that they could email to you. I can't say how many times I've called about hay and they say it's good, and it ends up being crap. Generally, the more your paying, the better chance it has of being good.

I think you could fit a bale in your car. It would probably work the best if you brought a bunch of heavy duty garbage bags, cut the bale open(you'll need scissors or a knife), and split it up into 3 or 4 bags. Then your car won't get as messy either.

Edit: They'll be fine eating grass for a while. When looking for hay, if you try again, get them to send you a picture, and you don't want any special kind of hay. You just want premium quality alfalfa horse hay in a normal bale, that's a late cut. You could also call around to horse stables around your area and see if they'll just sell you a couple flakes. That might be the easiest. Then you won't have to buy a whole bale, and if it's a nice stable, they will usually have nice hay too. But if it just seems like too much at this point, the grass isn't going to hurt anything. They're nearly full grown anyways.
 
Just to help you out a square bale is the common bales you see. They range from 50-80lbs. Round bales are the huge circle bales that weigh 800-2000 lbs so you don't want one of those. Some people make a Timothy and alfalfa mix. I'm going to grab my computer so I might be able to help you
 
they actually like the fluff in the "sticks and fluff" hay... the problem is they eat the fluff (which falls out everywhere) and then they won't eat the hard sticks. my problem with "sticks and fluff" hay (as opposed to the bunnies') is that the leaves seem to fall off the stems WAY too easily, making it very difficult to dispense without it coming apart. so maybe I'm actually looking for an early cut?

the 50 lb bale fit easily enough that I don't doubt my ability to fit an 80 lb bale in the car... I do, however, doubt my ability to get an 80 lb one into the house myself, lol.

thanks for the info :D
 
Really the fluff or Leaves is where all the nutrition is. It is the most readily available non structural carbs and protein. The stems take longer to break down because of the Lignin content. The leaves are for more pre-cecal digestion and the stems are for the hindgut fermentation (which is why it takes longer to break them down). Rabbits are able to still utilize this because they eat their cecals.
 
yeah, but the sticks are what wear down their teeth, which is why I want 'em eating both parts
 
There is a feed store that I go to ALL the time. They sell Timothy hay in bales that weigh 125lbs each. They barely fit in my truck. The first time we got one we actually made it fit in my moms small mustang convertable. We had to leave the top down so that the bale would go in. It was defenitly a sight to see. (the bale was almost as big as the car).
 
ldoerr wrote:
There is a feed store that I go to ALL the time. They sell Timothy hay in bales that weigh 125lbs each. They barely fit in my truck. The first time we got one we actually made it fit in my moms small mustang convertable. We had to leave the top down so that the bale would go in. It was defenitly a sight to see. (the bale was almost as big as the car).
I can just picture this... "oh, and what is all that hay for??" :coolness:
"That? oh, it's just for my rabbit."
 
Imbrium wrote:
I drive a 2005 RX-8... manual transmission because I can't drive automatics.  well, I can if I HAVE to, but it's as awkward as someone who's very unaccustomed to stick driving one of those.  it freaks me out every time the car shifts and I had nothing to do with it, lol.  kinda like that feeling you get in your legs if you're up REALLY, really high and look down over the side.  it just feels like something is WRONG.  I've known I wanted to drive stick ever since I was like 5 years old (my dad's truck was a standard and I always thought that shifting gears looked like the most fun part of driving, hehe).

I know that feeling. I got stuck with an automatic (lazymatic) car for almost 5 years after I refused to buy another used car and have the trans fall out (that was auto, but the dealership hid its problems and I was 18) and I wanted a cheap new car, so I turned to Kia...and there was a long wait for one with manual. Finally made up my mind that a 2005 WRX wagon was more my style, and boy do I love it. I love driving stick again (learned on a '90 Civic that I grew up in and shifted for my dad sometimes while he was juggling food and coffee in the driver's seat and the light turned green)

/car babble
 

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