Roo NEVER licks me, or any bun for that matter. But she sure does like her head rubs and to be groomed by the other buns. And it's not even like she's the dominant bun either, Toby is and he loves LOVES licking the other buns.
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Mine seem to be mellowing with age. I forgot that it was Snowy and Houdini´s 2nd birthday more or less around Christmas, I got them at the end of January and they were around 4 weeks old, so tiny and cuddly. Can´t believe I´ve had them that long, seems like yesterday.
Just ordered more food for them today from amazon. Can you believe they have discontinued the food they have been eating and love. I emailed them yesterday as they have another similar one on the site but just wanted to know if they still sold the other. I was impressed as they replied really quickly and told me that they no long produce it and that the other is similar but not the same. So, in the end, I´ve gone for their excel adult nuggets which seems to be a really good food with a high fibre content. I am hoping the boys will like it and I have about another three weeks of their other food and this should arrive mid next week so I have time to transition. It did impress me in their email that, at the end, they said not to forget to make changes gradually. This is the new food http://www.burgesspetcare.co.uk/excelfeedingplan/about-the-feeding-plan/tasty-nuggets.html
I am hoping they like them as I´ve bought 20 kgs :thumbup
They suddenly have a really good appetite as they always left some for later and now they seem to gobble it down straight away.
I also bought some of the excel hay cubes as I brought a box back from the UK and they like them although Houdini is a messy little rascal as he takes it our of his litter tray and spreads it all over the floor. He just likes rearranging things lol.
Just ordered more food for them today from amazon. Can you believe they have discontinued the food they have been eating and love. I emailed them yesterday as they have another similar one on the site but just wanted to know if they still sold the other. I was impressed as they replied really quickly and told me that they no long produce it and that the other is similar but not the same. So, in the end, I´ve gone for their excel adult nuggets which seems to be a really good food with a high fibre content. I am hoping the boys will like it and I have about another three weeks of their other food and this should arrive mid next week so I have time to transition. It did impress me in their email that, at the end, they said not to forget to make changes gradually. This is the new food http://www.burgesspetcare.co.uk/excelfeedingplan/about-the-feeding-plan/tasty-nuggets.html
I am hoping they like them as I´ve bought 20 kgs :thumbup
They suddenly have a really good appetite as they always left some for later and now they seem to gobble it down straight away.
I also bought some of the excel hay cubes as I brought a box back from the UK and they like them although Houdini is a messy little rascal as he takes it our of his litter tray and spreads it all over the floor. He just likes rearranging things lol.
PaGal
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As sweet as Thumper is and always has been he is not a licker. I can count on one hand the number of times he has licked me since I brought him home. He does however, like to lay his head on my lap and if he was just drinking I get a nice wet spot. Ha!
It's nice that your mom likes the buns and they visit with her. I'm looking forward to the day when Thumper can again jump up on the couch with me. He is so all about being petted now so it will be nice when he can sit next to me in the evening and get plenty of pets while I unwind before bed.
It sounds like you had an enjoyable New Years.
It's nice that your mom likes the buns and they visit with her. I'm looking forward to the day when Thumper can again jump up on the couch with me. He is so all about being petted now so it will be nice when he can sit next to me in the evening and get plenty of pets while I unwind before bed.
It sounds like you had an enjoyable New Years.
Hehe, just imagining Thumper licking you, it´d be like a small dog.
Mom sits and watches them all day when they´re out, I know where they are every minute lol. THey spend more time on the sofa with her than with me now.
Just watching my poor Bandy, he´s out near the entrance again, he´s been periscoping, think he wants to go out but I can´t let him.
Houdini is driving me nuts, he´s been thumping and periscoping for the last hour. I think he can hear my mom, she´s just been up to the loo and she makes quite a bit of noise at night. For such as small bun, he´s got a really loud thump.
Mom sits and watches them all day when they´re out, I know where they are every minute lol. THey spend more time on the sofa with her than with me now.
Just watching my poor Bandy, he´s out near the entrance again, he´s been periscoping, think he wants to go out but I can´t let him.
Houdini is driving me nuts, he´s been thumping and periscoping for the last hour. I think he can hear my mom, she´s just been up to the loo and she makes quite a bit of noise at night. For such as small bun, he´s got a really loud thump.
You may want to let him out for a bit. It will be good for him to have a run around.
Some things to remember when buns are sick. Their body temp usually drops, so you need to keep them warm(with a snugglesafe if you have one) especially before giving food and water. And also encouraging running around can help, as well as gentle tummy massages. And keep an eye out for bloating, which is an emergency. Don't want you worrying any more than you already are, just something to keep a close eye on. If you are giving massages, that will help you know if there are any changes with his belly.
Some things to remember when buns are sick. Their body temp usually drops, so you need to keep them warm(with a snugglesafe if you have one) especially before giving food and water. And also encouraging running around can help, as well as gentle tummy massages. And keep an eye out for bloating, which is an emergency. Don't want you worrying any more than you already are, just something to keep a close eye on. If you are giving massages, that will help you know if there are any changes with his belly.
Just scared that if I let him out, I won´t be able to see him or catch him if I need to.
I´ll see if he´ll sit with me for a while and keep him warm, don´t have a snugglesafe but have a hot water bottle in a cover, would that do if I keep my eye on him. His tummy always seems spongy but it doesn´t seem bloated right now.
I doubt I´ll sleep tonight and I´ll get him down to the vet as soon as they open in the morning.
I´ll see if he´ll sit with me for a while and keep him warm, don´t have a snugglesafe but have a hot water bottle in a cover, would that do if I keep my eye on him. His tummy always seems spongy but it doesn´t seem bloated right now.
I doubt I´ll sleep tonight and I´ll get him down to the vet as soon as they open in the morning.
Well, if you let him out and he is fast enough to make it hard to catch him, then that could mean he's feeling a bit better. Just the fact that he is periscoping and wanting to come out, is a good sign that he may be feeling a little better. Usually when a rabbit isn't feeling good, the last thing they want is to be hopping around. They usually just want to sit in a corner not moving.
Hot water bottle would be fine. You can usually tell when they are cold, as their ears and body feel pretty cool. And there would be no mistaking bloat. The stomach would be hard and distended.
Hot water bottle would be fine. You can usually tell when they are cold, as their ears and body feel pretty cool. And there would be no mistaking bloat. The stomach would be hard and distended.
Jenny, I´ve just been holding him and massaging his tummy and it´s not hard at all, quite soft and squigy. I´ve just let him down and he´s raced off and has settled in his usual spot under the dining room table, that´s what he normally does when he´s out. Looks as though all three of them will be out all night now.
His ears are cool but his body is warm.
Thanks to everyone for keeping me company, don´t know what I´d have done without you. I´ve still a few hours but I´m hoping he´ll be back to his normal self by the morning.
His ears are cool but his body is warm.
Thanks to everyone for keeping me company, don´t know what I´d have done without you. I´ve still a few hours but I´m hoping he´ll be back to his normal self by the morning.
Maybe being out with his buddies, it will help perk him up some. If he doesn't just sit under the table and actually will hop about, that would be really good.
It sounds like he might not be cold, but you may still want to offer the warm bottle with a towel over, just so he has the option of warming up.
Hang in there, almost morning. I hope you don't have too much going on tomorrow, and can rest once Bandy's doing better.
It sounds like he might not be cold, but you may still want to offer the warm bottle with a towel over, just so he has the option of warming up.
Hang in there, almost morning. I hope you don't have too much going on tomorrow, and can rest once Bandy's doing better.
Yeah, encourage some hopping around. Though I know there is only so much you can do if they don't want to do it.
Imbrium
Jennifer
Exercise is definitely good for GI issues! Another option for a warming source is to fill a sock with uncooked rice, tie it off and microwave it until it's hot enough - makes a nice warming pad 
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I hope Bandy feels better soon!
.I hope Bandy feels better soon!
Well, we´ve got through the night and Bandy has just eaten a bunch of dill, it´s his absolute favourite and he didn´t want it at the beginning of the night but has just eaten some of it. He´s also started to groom himself which I think is a good sign and he looks much perkier now than he has been all night.
I managed to get a couple of hours sleep on and off but well worth staying up the night to look after my big fluff ball and see the improvement this morning.
Once again, thanks to all who´ve been with me most of the night. Couldn´t have done it without you guys.
I managed to get a couple of hours sleep on and off but well worth staying up the night to look after my big fluff ball and see the improvement this morning.
Once again, thanks to all who´ve been with me most of the night. Couldn´t have done it without you guys.
Imbrium
Jennifer
I remember the time Gazzles didn't seem to have much of an appetite... I tried simethicone, then metacam, then finally BeneBac... she'd eat a smidge each time I gave her something, but then go back to not seeming interested in food (practically unheard of for that little piggy!); finally the BeneBac worked for good. The way she'd eat pretty much *right* after being given something made it seem almost like she was just doing it for the attention, lol. I was SO relieved when she was finally eating normally again!
Jennifer, put a big plate of salad down this morning and he´s been eating like a champ, I am so relieved.
I did go down to the vet´s surgery but the vet is not in this morning as it´s a bank holiday on Monday. I spoke to the receptionist who I found a bit agressive. Told her what I´d given him and she went mad cos I gave him metacam but I just kept quiet, couldn´t be bothered arguing as I was too tired. In any case, I trust the advice you and Jenny gave me and it seems to have worked, I was just so grateful having someone there, it all does seem much worse when you´re on your own. She was also going on about his temperature but he seems fine and doesn´t look uncomfortable this morning and I don´t have a thermometer, that´s the next thing on my list. She told me to keep feeding him critical care but he´s now eating greens and he´s had a bit of hay and a few pellets so I don´t think he needs it. I still have some left from last night so if I see he´s off his food again, I´ll get some down him later.
I have to go to my friend´s house for lunch so that will be a few hours, I was a bit worried about leaving him but I think he should be OK.
If I am really worried later, I have the vet´s number so I´ll call her.
I did go down to the vet´s surgery but the vet is not in this morning as it´s a bank holiday on Monday. I spoke to the receptionist who I found a bit agressive. Told her what I´d given him and she went mad cos I gave him metacam but I just kept quiet, couldn´t be bothered arguing as I was too tired. In any case, I trust the advice you and Jenny gave me and it seems to have worked, I was just so grateful having someone there, it all does seem much worse when you´re on your own. She was also going on about his temperature but he seems fine and doesn´t look uncomfortable this morning and I don´t have a thermometer, that´s the next thing on my list. She told me to keep feeding him critical care but he´s now eating greens and he´s had a bit of hay and a few pellets so I don´t think he needs it. I still have some left from last night so if I see he´s off his food again, I´ll get some down him later.
I have to go to my friend´s house for lunch so that will be a few hours, I was a bit worried about leaving him but I think he should be OK.
If I am really worried later, I have the vet´s number so I´ll call her.
Imbrium
Jennifer
Pfft, tell the receptionist to come back with a veterinary degree if she wants to tell you off . Jenny and I combined probably know a LOT more about stasis than most receptionists do!
Pellets are usually the last thing they start eating again after they go off their food for whatever reason, so if he's eating veggies, hay AND pellets then you're probably in the clear. The one thing to watch for is going to be tonight, since the metacam lasts 24h - you'll want to make sure he continues eating after it wears off. If his appetite drops again, I'd give him another dose; repeat each night only if needed until you can get him in to see the actual vet (which would be Tuesday, it sounds like?). As long as the metacam gets him eating on his own, I don't think an emergency vet is needed... however, if you continue having to give it then you'll obviously need to see the vet to determine the underlying cause of the pain/discomfort, since metacam only treats the symptoms and continuing to have to give it would mean that the problem hasn't resolved itself.
. Jenny and I combined probably know a LOT more about stasis than most receptionists do!Pellets are usually the last thing they start eating again after they go off their food for whatever reason, so if he's eating veggies, hay AND pellets then you're probably in the clear. The one thing to watch for is going to be tonight, since the metacam lasts 24h - you'll want to make sure he continues eating after it wears off. If his appetite drops again, I'd give him another dose; repeat each night only if needed until you can get him in to see the actual vet (which would be Tuesday, it sounds like?). As long as the metacam gets him eating on his own, I don't think an emergency vet is needed... however, if you continue having to give it then you'll obviously need to see the vet to determine the underlying cause of the pain/discomfort, since metacam only treats the symptoms and continuing to have to give it would mean that the problem hasn't resolved itself.
Imbrium
Jennifer
Btw, since you seemed a little sure on the dosage last night... metacam dosage for rabbits is 0.1-0.2 mg/kg (up to 1.5 mg/kg if needed) according to medirabbit (it's listed as meloxicam there - they're the same thing). I assume the "up to 1.5 mg/kg" bit is for very severe pain issues - I would definitely stick to the 0.1-0.2 mg/kg dosing unless a vet specifically prescribes a higher dosage.
To give some perspective, when my girls got spayed their metacam dosage was 0.1 cc (1.5 mg/ml suspension). I don't remember their exact weights, but I know they both weighed at least 2.5 lbs and no more than 3 lbs, which would make the dose of metacam they were given equivalent to around 0.11-0.14 mg/kg. In other words, 0.1-0.15 mg/kg should be more than enough for tummy troubles if it was enough for bunnies recovering from major surgery.[FONT="] [/FONT][FONT="]
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To give some perspective, when my girls got spayed their metacam dosage was 0.1 cc (1.5 mg/ml suspension). I don't remember their exact weights, but I know they both weighed at least 2.5 lbs and no more than 3 lbs, which would make the dose of metacam they were given equivalent to around 0.11-0.14 mg/kg. In other words, 0.1-0.15 mg/kg should be more than enough for tummy troubles if it was enough for bunnies recovering from major surgery.[FONT="] [/FONT][FONT="]
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I think the problem we had with the dosage is that the syringe was in kg. I must actually buy a supply of different size syringes for any eventuality.
I am absolutely sure the two of you know more than she will ever know about buns. As he was considerably better this morning I wasn't too worried about not seeing the vet but I will keep an eye on him to make sure he continues to eat, poop and be his normal fluffy self
I am absolutely sure the two of you know more than she will ever know about buns. As he was considerably better this morning I wasn't too worried about not seeing the vet but I will keep an eye on him to make sure he continues to eat, poop and be his normal fluffy self
zombiesue
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I'm glad he's gotten better.
