update, 197 and 195 pounds, they are HUGE! It hurts when I get my feet stepped on. A few more days and they will be 1 year old, and, they will probably be our biggest yet. Sometimes I wonder why, but I have always had bigger dogs. Our original Doberman was much smaller at only 59 pounds but I thought she was large at the time. Funny how things and definitions can change over time.
