might b getting a bunny

[samandshawn]

Buns4Ever wrote:

. even if i wanted to adopt, my parents wouldnt let me.

I'm sorry but I think this is very strange, I might just be being cynical, but why???????

Its so much better too adopt you are saving a bunnies life!!

 

[Buns4Ever]

my parents r very against the shelter and howthings r done there. i dont know it all so i cant explain. they haveheard many bad things and my sisters bunny was from a shelter and wehad nothing but problems with him.no one could never pet him withoutbeing bit or attacked. my parents want to get a baby so we knoweverything about its past and hopefully wont run into the sameproblems. the bredder is going to help me properly socialise the bunnywhen i get it.

 

[samandshawn]

You cant base one experienceof a unsocial bunny, on how all shelters are run. If this shelter is sobad why don't you report them to the RSPCA? Getting a bunnyfrom a breeder doesn't mean that you will have the perfect bunny, thatwill depend on the rabbit! A breeder can only advice you onsocializing you are the one who will be with the bun. youalso need to make sure the breeder is reputable.

 

[Buns4Ever]

the breeder is reputable, the best in the area.i didnt ask for a lecture or for my parents to b judged, its up to themif we adopt one or not. i'm getting one from a breeder and thats allthere is to it, all i asked was if holands were good, friendly bunnies.maybe i'll end up with an adult from the bredder then i can see itspersonality there

 

[samandshawn]

I wasn't giving you alecture, I was just trying to tell you what to expect, and tounderstand why you wont adopt. Will you be reporting this socalled shelter to the RSPCA or equivalent?

 

[Buns4Ever]

My daughter thinks she is being treated like a 'dumb little kid' and does not appreciate it.

She's 12 years old and we have our reasons for going to a breederinstead of the shelter or to a pet store and I would appreciate if ourdecision was respected. Please keep this in mind next time. I thinkit's great that she can learn from a forum like this but I also need toknow that you all understand that she needs a little more patience andunderstanding as do the other children on this board.

It would be greatly appreciated if this would happen and my daughter could return without more problems.

Buns4Ever's Mom

 

[samandshawn]

I didn't mean to offendanyone, when posting on this forum everyone is entailed to there ownopinion, so you may not like whats said, but asking for advice meansyouneed to be preapered to listen, even if you dont agree, weall take advice and learn from it. I think you are takingthings far to much to heart.

 

[Buns4Ever]

I simply asked for our decision to be respected, if it's not what you would do then so be it but it's what we're going to do.

I was warned about this forum and ignored it which has turned out to be a bad choice on my part.

 

[samandshawn]

Buns4Ever wrote:

I simply asked for our decision to be respected, if it's notwhat you would do then so be it but it's what we're going to do.

I was warned about this forum and ignored it which has turned out to be a bad choice on my part.

There is nothing wrong with this forum itsfull of great people and very knowledgeable breeders, no one said theydid not respect your decision, but you must remember when reading apost and replying you don't know the age of the person who has postedso everyone is treated equally, we all ask questions to understand yourdecision.

 

[naturestee]

I'm sorry you feel like you weren't beingtreated well. I think a lot of this just came from wanting tounderstand why adoption wasn't an option, as it seems like a lot of petowners here turn to adoption when they know more about it. For example,I didn't even know our local shelter had rabbits. They didn't advertisethem in the paper like they do with the cats and dogs. My current andonly bun is from a pet store and came from a local hobby breeder thatthe store deals with regularly. However, I am planning on adopting abun later this summer.

Also, there are a number of rescuers on this forum and we learn quite a bit from them.

What I have learned the most about where to get your pet is that eachanimal is different. My bun was from a pet store and was socializedvery well from birth, and so was fairly easy to handle. And bysocialized well I mean that she was trying to beg from every passerby!Not all breeders work with their rabbits this much. One of my friendsadopted a rabbit from their local Humane Society. He's friendly,social, and perfectly litter trained. But not all the rabbits therewere like that. Especially with the more shy ones, patience andpossibly an adult only household are necessary.

I know that I rambled quite a bit, but really it all comes down to the individual- both the rabbit and the human.

 

[Carolyn]

Welcome Buns4Ever,

I'm sorry that you feel you were treated as if you were stupid. I donot feel that you are stupid - at all - as it is wise and showsmaturity on your part to ask questions before you adopt your new familymember.

We all need to remember that each of us has our own way of doing thingsand have our own reasons for chosing the venue in which we get ourrabbits. I'm glad that it was pointed out that not all pet stores orshelters are bad places to get a rabbit, but if the owner isn'tcomfortable and wishes to get a rabbit from a breeder, more power tothem. The first rabbit I had gotten died after two weeks. I had gottenit from a small, privately-owned pet store. No one on this Earthcould've made me get my second rabbit from a pet store after thatexperience. I had been researching and investigating all thepossibilities and I didn't want to take a chance again.

Unless you really know the pet store or the shelter and you know thatthey have good people working at them (like Jen) who really do careabout the animals in their care, there is a risk involved. In ashelter, you're not always sure what the rabbit's past was, how old itis, or how it was treated, and in a pet store, you're not sure if theconditions were right or the rabbit was prematurely taken away fromit's mother. I'm not saying that all shelters or pet stores are bad,but there are definitely concerns that people have about them and I dounderstand.

After I had fallen in love with my rabbit that I had gotten from abreeder and learned so much more about rabbits, I was more apt to goout and rescue the other ones that came into my life - which I did. Mylittle Punkin (my 4 year old Holland Lop when I rescued her) wasvirtually ignored by her owners. Poor little thing didn't know whattoys, treats, or hay was and would face the corner of her cage when shefirst came to my home.

She now is my most social rabbit, she will chase my other rabbit if Iyell at him and he doesn't listen, she 'checks on me' all the time whenshe's out...coming up to me at least 10x or more in 2 hours for patsand love, and looking at her beautiful face melts me in a heartbeat. Ithink your decision to get a Holland Lop is a very good one. I don'tthink you'll be disappointed.

Let us know what you decide.

-Carolyn

 

[cirrustwi]

Buns4Ever wrote:

i'm thinking of showing in the future so thats anotherreason to go to a breeder

THIS is a good reason to go to a breeder, one of the best reasons to go to a breeder in fact.

As for Hollands, I rescued mine from a "breeder" who was selling her ata reptile show as "pets only". She was a wonderful littlething, but now she has quite the attitude. I think this israre with Hollands though. I'm hoping that when she isspayed, she will settle down again.

If you want a rabbit who is very cuddly, I honestly would suggest alarger breed. I have a Flemish Giant (I got him from abreeder, because I specifically researched Flemish and wanted thatbreed) who is just wonderful. He is the sweetestguy. I also have a Californian who I rescued from that samereptile show just a different time. He is very sweettoo. His personality goes against what I've since learned onthis forum about Californians in general. That said, I alsohave 2 Mini Lops who have great personalities. I just adoptedAbby from someone who had to give her up. She is 2 and justso sweet. Sage is about 9 mon. I got him from thepet store I manage and he has always been a big cuddle bun.

I'm sorry if you or your mom feel that you were treatedpoorly. I, personally just feel very strongly about petstores -- they are not all bad, but if the ones in your area are, youshould look into reporting them. As for being "warned aboutthis forum" people here have opinions, but you will find thateverywhere. I have found the treatment here to be much betterthen some other forums to which I have belonged.Unfortunately, we have no way of knowing the age of the people who areasking for advice, so our answers have to be unbiased. Again,I will say I am sorry if you were offended by my previous reply, but Ifeel as strongly for adoption as you feel against it as do many peoplehere. I think it would be fair to ask thatouropinions be respected as well.

Jen

 

[brimmhere]

i would have your parents do some research intorabbit rescues. i personally own my own rescue and i understand thereconcerns but not all shelters and rescues have bad rabbits. ipersonally insure each of mine is taken care of with the proper diet,daily exercise, daily grooming and loads and loads ofattention. ive not had a complaint yet with one of my rabbitsthat has been adopted out. i make sure they have plenty ofhuman contact so that they are good family pets. yes abreeder may know about the rabbit in sense of blood lines and such butits such a wonderful thing to be able to adopt a rabbit thats come fromhomes that they were unable to stay in or just plain terrible backgrounds.

our little mini rex came from a breeder. shes awonderful little rabbit and yes i had the opportunity to get all herpedigree paperwork and such but did not chose to. i dontreally care about that . we wanted her as part of ourfamily. yes it was a good experience but then i startedfinding out about all the homeless rabbits. thus i started myrescue.

cadbury is our newest addition and he was a rescue that camein. he is such a sweet and loving rabbit. hes nothad any health issues and i had him neutered the day after we got himin. the vet said he was perfectly healthy. yes imay not know his exact breed or blood lines but who cares.hes a wonderful rabbit and we are so happy to have had the opportunityfor him to be part of our family.

personally i would do alot of reseach into a rescue. thereare so many deserving rabbits that will not find homes that should havethat opportunity.

 

[Buns4Ever]

My apologies for my reply. I'm just be rather protective of my daughter.

One main reason we've decided to go with a breeder is to get a purebred. We believe it will be good for her to be in 4-H and a rabbit isthe best animal we believe. Hopefully we'll allow her to raise a smallheard so we can teach her responsible breeding and important lifelessons through the animals.

I know you don't haveto have a pure bred for 4-H but I hope she can move into ARBA sanctioned shows in the future.

Buns4Ever's Mom

 

[samandshawn]

Ihope there are nohard feelings and things have been cleared up now. Once againI'm sorry if I offended anyone and as said we don't know the age ofpeople posting so there is equal treatment. Hope you enjoythe forum and remember no one is getting at anyone else we just allexpress our own opinions, as the world of bunnies is verycontroversial. :bunnydance:

 

[Carolyn]

And I am sorry your daughter felt offended. Ihope you and your daughter feel comfortable to come back to the forumand ask any questions you feel comfortable with. We have plenty ofpeople that are in 4-H and that are breeders, we even have an ARBAJudge (Pamnock) that posts here regularly. I know that we can help andeveryone is willing to help.

Hope we can call this one bygones, and move on to help you and your daughter any way we can.

urplepansy:

-Carolyn

 

[naturestee]

This is naturestee's husband. I just wanted tosay that I was a 4-Her for more years then you are suppose to be ableto because of parents being leaders and I showed rabbits every one ofthose years. Unlike my wife, I have had rabbits most my childhood back"on the farm" and I was the one who encouraged her to get one for a petwhen she needed something cuddly to take care of. I think it is awonderful idea to start showing rabbits through 4-H. It gave me nothingbut good memories. As for breed, I have to say that the netherland wehave now is fun to have, but my experiance is that it deals inindividual along with breed.
I hope you find a wonderful bunny and show the rest of us up in the care and love you give it.

 

[mini lop luva]

When i was thinking of getting a bunni i couldnot decide but i have two mini lops and they are lovely but one still ababy awwwwww but my older one is goergeous she follows me everywhereand really pleased to see me get a mini lop they are the best lol .