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I wouldn't be too worried. It could be something, but it also could be nothing. Toby pees in his pen from time to time. I don't think litter training is 100% effective sometimes (even the best house-broken doggies have accidents). I hope little Toby gets his mindset right again! :)
 
October 1, 2009 - no change

Toby is starting to worry me. He seems much more calm. He is not coming out of his pen immediately after I open the door. He isn't as excited to come out and run in the living room. To me, this is a pretty drastic change in behavior. :(I wonder if the nail cutting fiasco hurt him in some way. He was flying all over the place, landing all funny... I am definitely worried.

My snapfish pics got delivered! I printed 3 pix just so I could put them in the picture frames that I have. I want to put more pictures of my fur kids in the office because ... they make me happy. They remind me why I am slaving in a job that I abhor. I wuv them so much.

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My best friend got me the "Who Me?" Curious George picture frame from Orlando. She said the little troublemaker monkey (who I love!) reminded her of Toby. And... it's very fitting!

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kherrmann3 wrote:
Is Toby molting right now? The extra hair ingestion could make him feel not quite himself...

Very good point Kelly. He could be feeling off because of shedding. My Patrick has taken up sitting under a window allmorning by himself until the sun comes around.

Is Toby still doing normal potties? Input/Output as usual? If it wastrauma from the nail-trimming, does he let you pet him all over without obvious pain? You could in for some serious sucking-up...

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No, he's not molting... He is shedding a bit more than usual but he's been kinda doing that for a month or so already. It's tapered off actually. I hear baby buns sometimes may not go through a full molt for the first year.

He is eating hay and pellets and lettuce like normal... maybe a little less hay. I changed his timothy hay to Kleenmama bluegrass hay (half of it is bluegrass, half is his usual Oxbow timothy), so maybe that's contributing to it?? But he is pooping regularly, and still drinking water.

Edit: He takes petting well. He even flattened a tiny bit for me... I tried touching his tummy (because he landed weird on it during the nail cutting escape) and he ran away but... he always runs away when I try to touch down there.

Puzzling... I posted in the infirmiry as well... sigh... http://www.rabbitsonline.net/view_topic.php?id=51143&forum_id=16

 
:hug:Awe, poor little Toby... you have to start acting like yourself, or your mom might take you to the doctor... :shock:;)

Can you carry him out of the bunny-room and have him sit with you? Maybe a nice tummy rub would do him some good. I usually hold the fur-child on my chest so my warmth helps warm up their tummy. Then I slide my fingers under the tummy and apply gentle pressure going downward to the butt. Could be another chance for more bonding, in a nice way....

myheart
 
myheart wrote:
:hug:Awe, poor little Toby... you have to start acting like yourself, or your mom might take you to the doctor... :shock:;)

Can you carry him out of the bunny-room and have him sit with you? Maybe a nice tummy rub would do him some good. I usually hold the fur-child on my chest so my warmth helps warm up their tummy. Then I slide my fingers under the tummy and apply gentle pressure going downward to the butt. Could be another chance for more bonding, in a nice way....

myheart

Thanks myheart. Yeah, I really don't want to take him to the vet and scare him with the trip...

I will see if he will tolerate a tummy rub. He might fight me on the pick-up. He doesn't like be huggled. :grumpy:I am paying him extra attention... I hope he likes me more...
 
Maybe he needs to know that you aren't always the bad guy.... When I do tummy rubs, I use a towel for a loosely wrapped burrito to keep the bunner still until they realize that tummy rubs are good. Then they mellow out a bit more and I can unwrap the towel a bit more. The towel also helps to hold in the heat.

myheart
 
October 2, 2009 - Bounciness and DBFs

Guess what? Giving Toby all his timothy hay back had him eating nonstop for awhile. He must have been hungry and tired when I switched half his hay... :shock:He's been very happily nomming his regular hay all up. Lots of happy bunny poops in the litter box! Hooray!
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Toby: "mmmmmm i'm going to eat one at a time.. savor the flavor..."
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Toby:"noooo i just can't stand it! i must have it aaaalllllll! aw i can only fit 2....mommy when can i fit more?"
When you get older, Toby.
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Kirby's DBFs continue, demonstrating perfect DBF posture!
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Kirby: "now it's your turn, mommy."
Oh honey, mommy can't do it ascute as you.
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Aww! Toby looks bright-eyed and alert! That's always good! :) When Kirby is in full DBF mode, I want to wiggle his little feetsies! They are so cute all "sprawled" out like that (I mean, bunnies have stubbular front legs, how sprawled can they get? lol)
 
Well when he is DBFed he is more relaxed, so it looks more sprawled I suppose. When he is lying down, I attempt to touch his feetsies but Kirby shrinks his foot into his bunny girth lol! It's funny to see him do that because it's like he can retract any part of him into himself and it just disappears, like a turtle! He doesn't so much like his footie to be touched but I can brush his front ones with one finger and he's ok with that :hearts:
 
I am so glad to hear that Toby is feeling better. I was reading your post in the Infirmary and was so happy to read that the mystery has been solved. Toby must have a more tender tummy than you thought. ;)

Oh, you have to stop posting pics of Kirby in the DBF. It makes my heart stop every single time... :(I don't know how much more worrying over all of our fur-kids I am able to handle....

Give the kids smooches for me :p

myheart
 
I didn't realize Toby was so sensitive to hay changes either until this incident. He has always eaten whatever was given to him and taken it in stride. This was the first time he was picky about something and reacted so strangely! I won't be doing that again soon. I just got a new bag of Oxbow 15/23 pellets for him and I'm integrating it into his current pellets in steps. He current eats the same brand and type but there may be variations between bags. I do the same when Kirby gets a new bag. But Toby goes through so many more bags of food since he's allowed unlimited. It's amazing how much eats and yet he's still not pudgey.

Hehe, I will tone down the DBF pix for you myheart! I will take them and enjoy them on my computer :biggrin2:The one that I just posted however did have me a bit scared. He was flopped for so long and I was so busy snapping pictures that it suddenly dawned on me to check if he was breathing. He was. WheW!;)

I bought the bunners a bag of the Oxbow Simple Rewards Banana treats.
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I knew all it is is just freeze dried pure banana and Kirby has not liked fresh banana but I have never fed banana to Toby. I want to see what other things Toby likes to eat to get him to be rounder ;)It's an expensive little bag of dried banana. I think I will be looking for alternatives if I decide to buy any more dried banana for the buns. Kirby did not care for it. Toby sniffed, then licked, then stole the whole chip out of my hand. My little food stealer!:inlove:

My husbun told me something today that had me both puzzled and warm-hearted. He said he saw in the news that there were a lot of apartment fires lately and when he was falling asleep one night he thought about how we only had 1 pet carrier and 2 bunnies and... if we ever had to run out of the building, we'd have to pick a bun to put in the single carrier and the other bun would be in a lot of danger (if we had to hold him in our arms). We were in the pet store buying pellets and treats and the lady was already ringing us up. He said we should buy another pet carrier and then he explained the whole "what if" thing to me. It was odd and I rolled my eyes at the possibility but it did seem like a good thing to have as a safeguard. It also made me realize that my husbun loves my bunnies as much as I do (well, maybe not AS much as I do...) but he shows it differently.:shock: He thinks about the buns' well-being. We ended up buying a medium size Sherpa Original Bag. It's a cloth bag that is airplane-allowed. So we have 1 hard carrier and 1 soft one. Either bun can go in either one. We are all set :)
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We have our "apartment fire" escape all planned out. :p Both bunnies have a carrier, put the finches out on the patio (shut the patio door) and when we had Squishy, just drop him in a pocket or purse and take him out with you. Hopefully, none of us will ever have to experience that!
 
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