Has anyone used simethicone.

[Offspring2099]

Hi guys,

I think Penny is very gassy. She lying down with her butt in the corner. Eyes half closed, and it feels like her stomach is very bloated. Breathing heavy too.She gets up then gets down.Something is defenitely bothering her.Just want to know if anyone used simethicone and if it's ok.

Thanks.

 

[TinysMom]

Yep - I have a doe that gets bloat very easily and I use it all the time. I don't remember where I read this - I use 1cc every 30 minutes for the first 3 hours and then 1 cc every 3 hours for the next 8-12 hours.

Sometimes I will give light tummy massages too - depends upon how the tummy feels.

I'll try to find some links for you and edit them in.

Peg

P.S. My doe is almost 3 pounds...I don't know how big your rabbit is.

Try this link:

http://www.rabbitsonline.net/view_topic.php?id=11931&forum_id=10

Also - I like this dosage calculator:

http://homepage.mac.com/mattocks/morfz/rx/drugcalc.html

 

[Offspring2099]

Thank you,


Any idea where I can get it, this late at night???

 

[TinysMom]

I get mine at Walmart - in the section where the gas meds are - but you need the one for babies - its usually off to the side or something.

I get the Walmart brand - in a brown bottle w/ eyedropper for maybe $3.59 or something like that?

Peg

 

[Offspring2099]

Thank you, Walgreens is open 24hrs too. If not I"ll go to walmart. Thanks again.

 

[Offspring2099]

Penny is about 5.17 lbs. I'm leaving right now to get the meds. I'll use the calculator when I get back. I figuring about 2cc?

 

[Offspring2099]

gave penny about 1.7cc.

Anyone know what is the best way to determine btw bloat and gas?

I already have an apt for Penny scheduled a while back for tomorrow morning. Hopefuly she will be alright till then.

 

[Pipp]

A gas attack is as you described -- most often an uncomfortable-looking rabbit, lying flat andgetting up and lying down again. You can often hear the gas sounds in the tummy.

True bloat is pretty immediate, the rabbit usually doesn't move at all,is hunched and lethargic, often loudly grinding his/her teeth, and his/her temperature drops (the dangerous part). The stomach is swollen and extended. Within a few hours, the poor bunny is literally at death's door.

If a bunny has gas, you want to do tummy massages and if it's bloat, you don't.

sas

 

[Offspring2099]

The temp in her ears is going up and down. I gave her 3 doses so far. Not any better.

At this time at night. If it IS a bloat, I dont think a non rabbit savvy pet emergency will do anything.


I dont hear her grind her teeth. Maybe once every 20-30 minutes, not very loud.


After giving her medication she did dart all the way across the house. I had to go find her.

But now just laying down, eyes half closed, ears up, and not doing too much. Agh, poor little girl.

 

[Offspring2099]

I can feel her stomach, its so swollen that it is pushing on a lot to the left side.

How loud is the stomach, if its gas? Because I can't hear anything.

 

[Pipp]

Yeah, it's tough watching a bunny in pain.

But it really doesn't sound like bloat, it's classic gas.Trylight tummy massages and vibrations -- I used vibrating toothbrush onDill a couple of weeks back, he was abit freaked at first, but he got over it. You can also put heron thedryer or take herfor a ride in the car.

It really takes about an hour-long massage to work it out. (Dill really appreciates it). Get her running around a bit,too.

I'll be waiting for more news.

Poor Penny.



sas

 

[Pipp]

Her tummy is swollen? As in a lot bigger and tighter than usual? If so, no tummy massages.



sas

 

[Pipp]

Here's a better way of relieving the gas pressure, courtesy of Dana Krempels:

"Gentle tummy massage also can help *tremendously* to relieve gas pain.
Rocking the bunny up and down gently (i.e., holding her so her bum is in
the air for a bit, and then gently changing position so her head and
forepaws are in the air for a bit; carefully rocking her from side to
side, and particularly onto her *left* side to relieve any possible
pressure on the post-pyloric curve of the small intestine) can also help
gas bubbles move when the gut is a bit sluggish."

Hope that helps. Avoid the upper area under her rib cage, and keep her warm. If she's still obviously in pain and you have baby Motrin or something like that, you may want to give her a little.

sas

 

[Offspring2099]

Yeah it seems very very swollen. Like a baseball.

 

[Offspring2099]

Thank you.

Pipp wrote:

Here's a better way ofrelieving the gas pressure, courtesy of Dana Krempels:

"Gentle tummy massage also can help *tremendously* to relieve gas pain.
Rocking the bunny up and down gently (i.e., holding her so her bum is in
the air for a bit, and then gently changing position so her head and
forepaws are in the air for a bit; carefully rocking her from side to
side, and particularly onto her *left* side to relieve any possible
pressure on the post-pyloric curve of the small intestine) can also help
gas bubbles move when the gut is a bit sluggish."

Hope that helps. Avoid the upper area under her rib cage, andkeep her warm. If she's still obviously in pain and you havebaby Motrin or something like that, you may want to give her a little.

sas

 

[Offspring2099]

I have torbutrol from sept. 19??? I dont know if that goes bad or not.

 

[Pipp]

It will still be good. She was taking it before? A shot or orally?



sas

 

[Offspring2099]

Oraly. She had no problems with it before.

 

[Pipp]

I'd say if she's still in a lot of pain, go for it. I'm a believer in the theory that the pain alone can cause issues like shock resulting in a dangerous temperature drop.

It may have to be taken with food and water though, although I think it's a narcotic, not an NSAID, but let me check.



sas

 

[Offspring2099]

I THINK the buldge that was her stomach is going waaaay down.