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It has nothing to do with the noise..it has to do they shouldn't be out of the nest box exposed to cold and to bacteria and stress. I don't agree with them sleeping with you or being out from thier mom. They might not be eating enough or be kept warm. And what if the mom decides to reject them since they are so constantly out of the nest?

*I really hope you mean 8 am to 9pm..not 8am-9am or 8pm-9pm. That isn't enough time. Plus, does feed primarily at night when they can do so in secret. So you are risking not feeding the kits enough. I don't udnerstand why you want to take them out. They need to be with thier mother

Well you stated in yoru other post "When she has kits again" so it sounds like it wasn't an accident? Or you want to re-breed?
 
I don't understand why you are doing this either. To be honest, you're just causing far too many problems for you and your rabbits. Things need to looked at from a mature stand point. Excuses won't help anything, and are certainly no reason for the improper "care" you are providing to your rabbits.

I'm not sure if you're reading everything we're saying, clearly and effectively. I highly suggest you do as much research as possible right now, so you know about the proper ways of taking care of kits.

Like I've said before, being overly protective will blind you to what's actually best for your rabbits.

If you truely cared about them, you'd leave the young alone with their mother in a nest box-which you can easily make if you don't have one.
 
OH BOY......... dont take them too school do you want them to die from stress?? I bought by lionhead boy at 4 weeks and because of the stress of leaving his mom he almost did not make it. AND why would you breed her agian? First off you have NO money and you are making it sound like she is a bad mother so why do you want to breed her agian?And if you dont have any money i think you should place the kits when weaned. Save the fee you ask for them to get the mother spayed!!
 
Don't breed those animals again. They sound unpedigreed, and like a mix. Unless I'm completely wrong, all you're bringing into this world that honestly don't need to be here.

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First of all - I want to thank you for listening to what everyone is trying to say. It isn't that we're wanting to attack you - but it is that we care about your bunnies.

By taking the babies places with you - you are exposing them to germs and stress that they would not have in the nestbox. In addition - when they live together in the nestbox - even when they're blind and have no fur - there is a sense of "Socialization" going on as they learn to fight/move to get where they want to be so they stay warm and as they find a nipple that is theirs whenever mom feeds them.

In addition - I have seen young kits "groom" each other while in their sleep. They don't realize what they're doing - but it is an interaction with their littermates.

By taking them away from mama - you are also limiting her interaction with them. I personally feel this "stunts" something in their socialization with others. I can't explain it - but it was something I did with a few litters and they just weren't quite the same when they were older.

Mamas also don't feed on our timetable. I have mamas who feed two or three times per day - others that feed once or twice per day. Lately, Nyx has started feeding her kits at least around 7:30 at night - imagine if I only let her have them for an hour later on.

Now that they're about a month old - they climb on mommy and on each other and they play together in a "safe" space (their cage).

You can make a nestbox out of a cardboard shoebox if need be.

But I also need to remind our members of something else - and it is something I struggle with sometimes as a forum member.

When we see something we think/feel they are doing wrong - we can try to explain to them and educate them on what is wrong - but ULTIMATELY - that rabbit is their rabbit and they're going to make their own decisions - whether they be good or bad.

Many times I've walked away from the computer angry or crying because of someone's decision which I knew was wrong for the rabbits.

So there is a fine balance between helping rabbits and learning to let people make their own decision - even if we don't like it.

This is why we want to be polite as we interact with each other.
 
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