Blabbering Jibberish Randomly

[Kizza]

Maybe I can shed a little more light on Myxo in Aus.

Rabbits were introduced in Australia to be used as a cheap source of meat, we do not have native rabbits in Aus.

The rabbits were not controlled when they were introduced and did go wild and breed. It has destroyed not only farming land but a heck of a lot of natural habitat and our native and rare wildlife is slowly dying as a result.

They introduced Myxo and Calici to 'cull' the population of rabbits in the wild, with little effect. The vaccine for Myxo not allowed in Aus because they believe that immunity or resistance to the disease can spread to offspring from a rabbit that has had the vaccination. I think there are studies that suggest that this is true and they have found evidence of it somehow.

For timelines please consult google

Another note is that in Queensland it is illegal to own a rabbit. They have very strict pet laws there, some are quite over the top. I understand though because just look what happened with the cane toads :S

This is just what I know I don't mean to sound like I agree with the whole process.

There are petitions and campaigns going to have the vaccine brought here but I don't think they have had much luck.

 

[Kizza]

Oh, and if you have a PetBarn near you I found some wood stove pellets there not long ago

Sorry if my comments are past the point I didnt read all of the posts

 

[Bonnie Lee]

Thanks Kirrie
I've never heard of petbarn before but I'll have to look it
up and fingers crossed as I really want to try out this wood stove pellet stuff ha ha.

your comments are much appreciated ^_^

 

[Bonnie Lee]

Hey guys just had another odd question come up.

I recently read that you should never breed a buck that is molting...?

Is this true and why is this?

 

[Kizza]

Haven't heard this one, perhaps they get a bit aggressive around this time and might hurt his lady friend? I can't see how it would affect they chromosomes in any way... interesting one

 

[ZRabbits]

Never heard that molting could affect sperm of a Male. Maybe make him a bit grumpy but doubt it would affect chromosomes.

Maybe a study or an association could gather data to see if this is true?

K

 

[woahlookitsme]

"Do different breeds of rabbits have different number of nipples?
I've read that bigger breeds give birth to more kits in a litter... So it made me wonder if they have like 16 nipples
while little ones only have like 4 nipples? Lol... I seem
like a crack attict needing my fix with these questions...
Huge apology "

Searching around it say 8-10. I know himalayans have 10 due to their longer bodies but i'm not sure about bigger breeds like flemish or californians, etc.

Also hay is fine in litter boxes. Whatever your bun will go on that is not harmful to them i think is fine. I use the wood pellets for my french lop because they absorb wonderfully and cleans out easily from his box. BUT reading around again I found out they built a plant in albany? to start making wood pellets and then it had to close down for some reason but by using google I don't think there are alot of ways for you to get them unless you get them imported. Here is a website that you could look around on
http://www.plantationenergy.com.au/

Sorry I must have missed that there were two other pages that I didnt read lol.
Never heard of not breeding a molting bunny. We bred one of our molting chocolate bucks and mom ended up having two so i don't know if its a bad thing but we got babies from it.

 

[Bonnie Lee]

Wow, I never saw this answers. Thanks for the replies.
I found it odd that it would be suggested to not breed a bun that was in moult as I didn't find it relevant to the situation.

Thanks Sarah for the link I'll look into it
I've stopped using hay as litter and found some paper based pellets with no chemicals or anything in them WOO HOO.

So i've recently been thinking about something as I've bred my doe Moshi and my Buck Harvey...Because Australia's Mini Lops are Holland Lops... I was thinking into the dwarf gene... and is it possible for the whole litter to be peanuts? I feel like it's really unlikely or extremely sad if it does happen but is it possible for them all to have it in one litter?

Also I was wondering how often do people have peanuts in their litters? I have talked this over so many times with my boyfriend saying I can handle seeing still births and peanuts and what not... but I'm really light hearted and I cry every time I see the cartoon Tangled or Narnia and things like that so... now I'm second guessing how I would cope if Moshi did give birth to these in her litter...

 

[ZRabbits]

Bonnie Lee wrote:

Wow, I never saw this answers. Thanks for the replies.
I found it odd that it would be suggested to not breed a bun that was in moult as I didn't find it relevant to the situation.

Thanks Sarah for the link I'll look into it
I've stopped using hay as litter and found some paper based pellets with no chemicals or anything in them WOO HOO.

So i've recently been thinking about something as I've bred my doe Moshi and my Buck Harvey...Because Australia's Mini Lops are Holland Lops... I was thinking into the dwarf gene... and is it possible for the whole litter to be peanuts? I feel like it's really unlikely or extremely sad if it does happen but is it possible for them all to have it in one litter?

Also I was wondering how often do people have peanuts in their litters? I have talked this over so many times with my boyfriend saying I can handle seeing still births and peanuts and what not... but I'm really light hearted and I cry every time I see the cartoon Tangled or Narnia and things like that so... now I'm second guessing how I would cope if Moshi did give birth to these in her litter...

You get peanuts with two "True" dwarf parents. That's how breeders find out if a doe is a "true". They breed a buck that they know is "true" to a doe. If she has peanuts, then she's true too.

There are dwarfs with only one "true" gene, which is called a BUB (Big Ugly Buck), BUD (Big Ugly Doe). They are bigger because they only have one "true" gene. They will get less peanuts. You could get more BUBs and BUDs. I hear a good BUD is excellent for a breeding program if your Buck is "True". As is a good BUB if your doe is true. Does cut down on peanuts.

Holland being a dwarf rabbit will always get peanuts. You could get a full litter of peanuts. It's a sad fact. It's good that you are thinking about all this before jumping into breeding. I'm doing the same thing. We already have decided one litter for sure and then see how it goes. Because Lion Heads are also a dwarf rabbit and I know peanuts are in my future.

K

 

[Bonnie Lee]

I think I'm getting a bit confused. Do you mean "true" as in 4 generations pure? Or is true something else? I'll look into thanks for bringing that up Karen

The problem is I've already bred the two I researched so much and I wrote down so much but a lot of what I wrote clashes with other facts and I've taken in too much BIAS information that now It's not making sense...

and I thought I was ready when I bred the two but straight after I did it I have been going crazy with all these what if factors... I'm starting to wish I wasn't so in love with this breed as the peanut situation wouldn't have been an issue. But after seeing Cassie the peanut in another members posts it really made me worry if I could handle seeing all that happening for myself...

 

[ZRabbits]

What I meant by "true" was genetic. Not how many generations. Sorry I was a bit confusing. There is a string of genes babies get from both parents for hair, eyes, ears and so on and in that chink of genes is a space called the "dwarf". When the strings of genes come from the Mom and Dad and in that space both fill in that "dwarf" box, you will get a peanut. For some reason when both Mom and Dad pass this, the kits just don't develop in the womb and don't last long outside the womb. I think Cassie IMHO was a runt. Different than a peanut. Runts are fully developed but smaller than their litter mates. They can survive where a peanut can't because of not being fully developed.

The deed is done. You can't worry about it now. You deal with this first litter. This will tell you if you seriously want to continue. I plan to do the same thing. I have no idea how I'll handle birth, peanuts or healthy kits. And First time moms.

Also your doe can feel your nervousness. So just take a breath, get away from all the notes and research, and just prepare the nest box for Mom and get what you need for the birth in 30 days. At least with bunnies, it is a short wait.

K

 

[Bonnie Lee]

Oh yeah I get what you mean I have been trying to read into rabbit genetics and what have yous but it's taking me time to really understand it..

If all goes well and I choose to continue breeding I want to get into colours and breeding a certain type of colour.

Also my bunny Moshi her mum had a cashmere gene in her so she has wool and Moshi got the gene but only partly so she's wooly and fluffy but her adult coat doesnt tangle its all silky if that makes sense which makes her look like a baby bunny forever so I was thinking it would be nice to breed a bunny that has that baby bunny furball look for pets because people wouldn't get so bored of their bunnies so quick and then it would give them time to get to see how great bunnies are once they get passed that teenage stage..

But until I can work out genetics a little better that idea isn't going to go too far. plus I couldnt stand to sell a bunny to people I think will later get bored of it...

 

[MagPie]

I've been told Harvey's a BUB Netherland Dwarf, since well he's 4lbs.

As for the nipples again, I imagine big or small they have the same amount. Big and small dogs have the same amount.

 

[Bonnie Lee]

I think it's a bit different with dogs though cos little breeds can still have a fair amount of pups hmm i don't know.

Sarah stated above Himalayans have 10 due to a long body lol.
it's so interesting but kind of useless information I'm trying to gain ha ha.

How did you find out Harvey was a BUB? sorry I need to open a converter I never understand lbs and what not being on the metric system

 

[Bonnie Lee]

Oh wow, he is quite big for a ND.

Maybe my Harvey is a BUB too because he's bigger than most mini lops but I assumed it was because he was an only kit.

 

[MagPie]

Yes he is Bonnie haha. I think most ND should be about 2lbs. Plus he looks big, he's not fat. I often wonder if he might have something else in him.

Sorry I don't know the metric system haha. I should tho.

Ooooh yay our Harveys could be BUBs together XD :highfive::rofl: hahah I didn't get much sleep.

 

[Bonnie Lee]

I was researching and they sad you can't necessarily tell if it's a Bub or BUD by if it's bigger like it's one sign but then it's not lol you get me?
I'll try find the link but apparently you can tell because false dwarfs have long feet and longer ears. But my harvey and moshi both have short fat feet where as my Winston the same breed is a little less compact and long thin feet but his ears aren't longer.... Lol

I bought my Harvey as show quality and in his pedigree his parents an thugs were all show rabbits and won so I feel like I will come up against peanuts which sucks but maybe moshi isn't a true dwarf hmm

 

[Bonnie Lee]

Lol hoping you catch up on some sleep today

 

[MagPie]

Hmmmm well Harvey's ears aren't quite as small as a good quality show ND and he does have big feet. But I don't really know his history. He's pretty much a spoiled rotten pet haha.

Hahah yeah me too! It wasn't Harvey entirely this morning that woke me, but a bad stomach ache.