slavetoabunny
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Giggles pictures are so cute. Her face coloring isa lotlike my foster Harley's.
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Nela
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Thanks for liking her pictures! She's a really really sweet girl. That's interesting Patti :confused2:I thought that color was 'harlequin' but your boy doesn't seem to be harlequin at all aside from half his face? How adorable! :biggrin:
JadeIcing
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I am in love with your blog. I have been very depressed and your blog has perked me up big time. Thank you...
JadeIcing
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Oh and here is my foster Nala.
Nela
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Awww Ali, I've been wanting to drop you a note but was scared it might make you uncomfy. I've noticed you've not been great. 
Sending you a ton of love! I'm glad the blog can make you smile! Just that makes it worth updating regularly.
Nala :biggrin:I love her already! What is she like?
Sending you a ton of love! I'm glad the blog can make you smile! Just that makes it worth updating regularly.Nala :biggrin:I love her already! What is she like?
JadeIcing
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You can always drop me a note.
Nala is a doll, such a sweetheart, craves attention.
Nala is a doll, such a sweetheart, craves attention.
Nela
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*Sigh*
I have not seen my bunnies in almost a week. It's been very difficult, not being able to go see them. Jeff has been taking care of them so they are okay. It's just hard on me. It's hard knowing that they aren't getting out. Seeing Smores sad breaks my heart. Jeff's sister wants to get a bunny and asked if she could take one of ours. They aren't interested in Maybelle. In any case, I wouldn't let them have her since she is a bit much for the kids to handle. I admit that, at first,I was rather upset about them even considering asking for one of ours but I now see that she was only offering since they are making me so sick. If they would take any from us, it would HAVE to be both Smores and Giggles together. I insist that they be together.
My heart is torn between keeping my babies and offering them better. It wasn't supposed to be like this. It should have been easy, having them outside and all. It's not at all how I imagined it. I've only made things worse for myself and the bunnies. I have now come to accept the fact that I will no longer own rabbits after these little guys. It's been hard. It's been years in the making really. I put it off for as long as I could, searching for every and any solution possible. Sometimes, all you can do is accept. I am now defeated.
I have been recently (well for some months)diagnosed with dysautonomia, a problem with the nervous system. It's not too major but it is indeed problematic. Add to it uncontrolled asthma that needs to be treated with such heavy meds such as spiriva and cortisone and it's a recipe for disaster. There's only so much beta-blocker I can safely take to slow down my heart and the combination of meds does a number on my body. Everytime I wash the litterboxes, I get closer and closer to respiratory arrest. The doctor had told me it was only a matter of time but I tried to figure it out anyway.
To be honest, before, I didn't really care. I didn't care if I was harming myself. If it could have killed me, then so be it. That's what I thought. Now, everything is different. I care enough to want to be healthy.I evenhave someone by my side -someone who would actually hurt immensely if something did happen. I adore my buns, I truly do but they aren't everything anymore. My decision not to own any more rabbits after this is sincere. I will not put us through this anymore. It hurts the rabbits, it hurts the people who love me, and it hurts me emotionally and physically.
My days with Smores, Maybelle and Giggles are precious and numbered. My goal is to keep them until they pass away naturally but there is no telling if I will be able to manage that. I'm now stuck between having to choose to risk it or rehome them before if a good opportunity arises. While they are here though, I will try and make the most of it. I will try to get as many pictures as I can. Make as many memories as possible... Cherish the moments I have with them. I envy anyone who could have them without such issues. Oh what I would give to have that.
Sometimes it's just so unfair. :expressionless
I have not seen my bunnies in almost a week. It's been very difficult, not being able to go see them. Jeff has been taking care of them so they are okay. It's just hard on me. It's hard knowing that they aren't getting out. Seeing Smores sad breaks my heart. Jeff's sister wants to get a bunny and asked if she could take one of ours. They aren't interested in Maybelle. In any case, I wouldn't let them have her since she is a bit much for the kids to handle. I admit that, at first,I was rather upset about them even considering asking for one of ours but I now see that she was only offering since they are making me so sick. If they would take any from us, it would HAVE to be both Smores and Giggles together. I insist that they be together.
My heart is torn between keeping my babies and offering them better. It wasn't supposed to be like this. It should have been easy, having them outside and all. It's not at all how I imagined it. I've only made things worse for myself and the bunnies. I have now come to accept the fact that I will no longer own rabbits after these little guys. It's been hard. It's been years in the making really. I put it off for as long as I could, searching for every and any solution possible. Sometimes, all you can do is accept. I am now defeated.
I have been recently (well for some months)diagnosed with dysautonomia, a problem with the nervous system. It's not too major but it is indeed problematic. Add to it uncontrolled asthma that needs to be treated with such heavy meds such as spiriva and cortisone and it's a recipe for disaster. There's only so much beta-blocker I can safely take to slow down my heart and the combination of meds does a number on my body. Everytime I wash the litterboxes, I get closer and closer to respiratory arrest. The doctor had told me it was only a matter of time but I tried to figure it out anyway.
To be honest, before, I didn't really care. I didn't care if I was harming myself. If it could have killed me, then so be it. That's what I thought. Now, everything is different. I care enough to want to be healthy.I evenhave someone by my side -someone who would actually hurt immensely if something did happen. I adore my buns, I truly do but they aren't everything anymore. My decision not to own any more rabbits after this is sincere. I will not put us through this anymore. It hurts the rabbits, it hurts the people who love me, and it hurts me emotionally and physically.
My days with Smores, Maybelle and Giggles are precious and numbered. My goal is to keep them until they pass away naturally but there is no telling if I will be able to manage that. I'm now stuck between having to choose to risk it or rehome them before if a good opportunity arises. While they are here though, I will try and make the most of it. I will try to get as many pictures as I can. Make as many memories as possible... Cherish the moments I have with them. I envy anyone who could have them without such issues. Oh what I would give to have that.
Sometimes it's just so unfair. :expressionless
Nela
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Ok so the previous post was something I had wanted topost the other day but I simply didn't have the heart to post it here. Anyway,I realize it's a bit of a downer so I will post some more positive things here...
First, the piggies. I got the guinea pigs knowing all too well that I will no longer have rabbits in the future. Part ofthe reason why I got themwas to rekindle my long lost love for them and to test out my body's response to them. I knew that there would be a risk of the same thing happening with the guinea pigs as it's happened with the rabbits but it's something that only time will tell.
So far though, things have been much much better than expected, both physically and emotionally. I had always always loved guinea pigs and had them for many many years though sporadically and never for long since my father was so severely allergic. He's landed himself in ICU over guinea pigs because he loved them so much. See the family resemblance?Over the years, my father was constantly making him sick by trying to find a new way to keep them and my heart was always breaking when it came time to rehome them. My mother finally put her foot down and it was forbidden to bring a guinea pig into the house after the millionth time or so. That's how I turned to rabbits. Does anyone else see the irony here?
Anyway, back on track. I have been responding amazingly well to the guinea pigs so far. Granted, it's only been a few weeks but one can hope right? In the past, I never reacted to guinea pigs. I did have one with Wiggles back in the day and reacted badly but now I think it might have been more a reaction to Wiggles since she was not spayed andit probably made her even more hormonal. (I react to any animal much worse whencertain hormones are secreted.My cats are an example of that. I never react to my cats unless they are very stressed)Of course, the hay issue is still present but I can handle that easily. Other than minor allergies, it's nothing I'm concerned about.I've been monitoring my peakflow and so far the only time my levels are loweris when it's taken right after handling the hay.
The guinea pigs themselves have been wonderful. Twizzler is a bit feisty and requires a bit of working with. Of course, in my mind that is a good thing. I have no problem with putting in the time and effort to win him over. I have seen lots of improvement already and I am very happy with it. I do not expect him to be like Jelly Bean but that is what makes them different. Jelly Bean is a riot. He's quite friendly already and everyday he calls out to me. If I talk to him from the living room (he's in a separate room off the living room) he replies. Yep yep, he already recognizes my footsteps, voice, and smell. He also responds to sounds on tv and, of course, he recognizes the sound of plastic bags.
The other thing that has been fun has been their interaction with the cats. Now, before anyone freaks please understand that Houdina has been raised with smaller animals from a very young age and has motherly instincts with them. Baloo, he's too hmm not sure the word.... We'll say 'indifferent' but that's not what he is.. Lol. It's like he has no instincts when it comes to certain things. He's a bit looney really...Anyway, what I am trying to say is that the guinea pigs live in an open 'cage'. we have some chairs beside their cage which the cats like to sit on so they can watch the guinea pigs.
However, quite frequently, Houdina likes to sit WITH them. Yes, my cat actually climbs into the box and sits with them and plays with the hay while they munch on it. I think it's pretty safe to say that she's harmless because the guinea pigs don't even flinch.Of course, I am always nearby but deep inside I know nothing would happen. She even sidesteps to make sure she doesn't step on anything they might be in. Lol. My main issue is the fact that she's taken to drinking water from the bowl when one of the piggies is drinking. (My cats are big on mimicking) Of course, I'm not too thrilled about that. I change the water immediately and bring her to hers but really she just does what the piggies are doing. This will be resolved as soon as the water bottle is put back in. Luckily, those bottles annnoy her. Lol.
We put in some temporary boxes in for the piggies with holes in them so they can play/hide/chase each other. They often play 'peek-a-boo' with Houdina. You'd think they were actually running back in because they are scared but I swear, the other day, Houdina wasn't playing much so Jelly bean went right up to her, and dashed back. Lol. Then the game resumed. Houdina is the same cat that shared lettuce with the bunnies and allowed Ariella to sleep on top of her. The guinea pigs don't object when she licks them either. I'm the one who does. Lol. The only other issue I have when she sits with them is that I really hadn't considered the cat when calculating cage space. Lol. Really though, I keep a good eye on them. I'm more worried about Twizzler getting annoyed at them pawing at their hay more than anything though.
On Saturday, Jeff started assembling the base for the guinea pigs. After taking everything into account, we decided to make the base itself in MDF and tiling it to make it more resitant. At first, I had only thought of tiling the floor but it made more sense to tile it around the inside as well. The fun thing is that we already had tiles because the sellers left us the spares. Jeff did buy new ones to do the sides because we didn't have enough and he wanted to get a specific size to match the others and fit perfectly. I'm really proud of what he made really even if it's rather simple looking at the moment. The base measures 120cm by 60cm. It's not huge but we plan on giving them another level to play on so it's enough for the two of them. I'm really looking forward to making the buildings as well. Jeff went all out and bought some tools for it. We were missing some glue for the tiles so the base was finished on Sunday and the piggies have been in it since. It's so much neater than the playpen setup! I'm especially grateful that Jeff even offered to make them anything since he had said no piggies. Lol. He's enjoying them though :biggrin2:
Will post pics of the temporary setup in a few.
First, the piggies. I got the guinea pigs knowing all too well that I will no longer have rabbits in the future. Part ofthe reason why I got themwas to rekindle my long lost love for them and to test out my body's response to them. I knew that there would be a risk of the same thing happening with the guinea pigs as it's happened with the rabbits but it's something that only time will tell.
So far though, things have been much much better than expected, both physically and emotionally. I had always always loved guinea pigs and had them for many many years though sporadically and never for long since my father was so severely allergic. He's landed himself in ICU over guinea pigs because he loved them so much. See the family resemblance?
Over the years, my father was constantly making him sick by trying to find a new way to keep them and my heart was always breaking when it came time to rehome them. My mother finally put her foot down and it was forbidden to bring a guinea pig into the house after the millionth time or so. That's how I turned to rabbits. Does anyone else see the irony here?Anyway, back on track. I have been responding amazingly well to the guinea pigs so far. Granted, it's only been a few weeks but one can hope right? In the past, I never reacted to guinea pigs. I did have one with Wiggles back in the day and reacted badly but now I think it might have been more a reaction to Wiggles since she was not spayed andit probably made her even more hormonal. (I react to any animal much worse whencertain hormones are secreted.My cats are an example of that. I never react to my cats unless they are very stressed)Of course, the hay issue is still present but I can handle that easily. Other than minor allergies, it's nothing I'm concerned about.I've been monitoring my peakflow and so far the only time my levels are loweris when it's taken right after handling the hay.
The guinea pigs themselves have been wonderful. Twizzler is a bit feisty and requires a bit of working with. Of course, in my mind that is a good thing. I have no problem with putting in the time and effort to win him over. I have seen lots of improvement already and I am very happy with it. I do not expect him to be like Jelly Bean but that is what makes them different. Jelly Bean is a riot. He's quite friendly already and everyday he calls out to me. If I talk to him from the living room (he's in a separate room off the living room) he replies. Yep yep, he already recognizes my footsteps, voice, and smell. He also responds to sounds on tv and, of course, he recognizes the sound of plastic bags.
The other thing that has been fun has been their interaction with the cats. Now, before anyone freaks please understand that Houdina has been raised with smaller animals from a very young age and has motherly instincts with them. Baloo, he's too hmm not sure the word.... We'll say 'indifferent' but that's not what he is.. Lol. It's like he has no instincts when it comes to certain things. He's a bit looney really...
Anyway, what I am trying to say is that the guinea pigs live in an open 'cage'. we have some chairs beside their cage which the cats like to sit on so they can watch the guinea pigs.However, quite frequently, Houdina likes to sit WITH them. Yes, my cat actually climbs into the box and sits with them and plays with the hay while they munch on it. I think it's pretty safe to say that she's harmless because the guinea pigs don't even flinch.Of course, I am always nearby but deep inside I know nothing would happen. She even sidesteps to make sure she doesn't step on anything they might be in. Lol. My main issue is the fact that she's taken to drinking water from the bowl when one of the piggies is drinking. (My cats are big on mimicking) Of course, I'm not too thrilled about that. I change the water immediately and bring her to hers but really she just does what the piggies are doing. This will be resolved as soon as the water bottle is put back in. Luckily, those bottles annnoy her. Lol.
We put in some temporary boxes in for the piggies with holes in them so they can play/hide/chase each other. They often play 'peek-a-boo' with Houdina. You'd think they were actually running back in because they are scared but I swear, the other day, Houdina wasn't playing much so Jelly bean went right up to her, and dashed back. Lol. Then the game resumed. Houdina is the same cat that shared lettuce with the bunnies and allowed Ariella to sleep on top of her. The guinea pigs don't object when she licks them either. I'm the one who does. Lol. The only other issue I have when she sits with them is that I really hadn't considered the cat when calculating cage space. Lol. Really though, I keep a good eye on them. I'm more worried about Twizzler getting annoyed at them pawing at their hay more than anything though.
On Saturday, Jeff started assembling the base for the guinea pigs. After taking everything into account, we decided to make the base itself in MDF and tiling it to make it more resitant. At first, I had only thought of tiling the floor but it made more sense to tile it around the inside as well. The fun thing is that we already had tiles because the sellers left us the spares. Jeff did buy new ones to do the sides because we didn't have enough and he wanted to get a specific size to match the others and fit perfectly. I'm really proud of what he made really even if it's rather simple looking at the moment. The base measures 120cm by 60cm. It's not huge but we plan on giving them another level to play on so it's enough for the two of them. I'm really looking forward to making the buildings as well. Jeff went all out and bought some tools for it. We were missing some glue for the tiles so the base was finished on Sunday and the piggies have been in it since. It's so much neater than the playpen setup! I'm especially grateful that Jeff even offered to make them anything since he had said no piggies. Lol. He's enjoying them though :biggrin2:
Will post pics of the temporary setup in a few.
Nela
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Bunny parents
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Nela, I'm sorry to hear that. I didn't know that you've been going through it quite some times. Seriously, I don't know what I would do if I were you but you did the right choice. Your health is the most important. I'm sure your bunnies are precious fellows who will luckily find a loving family. I'm totally agree with you that sometimes life is so unfair. I used to have a cat. We picked her up on the street, she was homeless. We brought her home and she was very sweet with me. Even she preferred to keep her own freedom by staying in our garage and had free run, but she would come to me or my mom every time we called her, or we were doing something in the garden, she came and followed us everywhere. After few months we've got her, I had a terrible allergic. We went to see the doc and he suggested us that we shouldn't keep the cat, even in the garage. I was so sad. Knowing that I had no better choice but had to give her up. Luckily, my aunt loves cats and she was willing to take Candy ( Yes, that's my cat name ). Sicne then she's stayed at my aunt's. before I came to Poland, I had chances to go visiting her. every time when we were about to leave, She sat in front of me looking like she was begging for something. When we walked to the car, she just followed us to the car and waited there. It was like she asked for permission to go home with us :cry2 It was so hard for me to walk away. I'm sure that my aunt takes a very good care of her. But one thing I cannot help myself thinking of it , is that probably Candy wonders why we gave her up, or if we don't want her any more. I cried so hard. I cried every time we came back from visiting her. Somehow, it's so unfair. We just have to move on. If you ever need someone to talk to, I'm always here and willing to listen to you. You've got a friend :hug1
I didn't know that you've been going through it quite some times. Seriously, I don't know what I would do if I were you but you did the right choice. Your health is the most important. I'm sure your bunnies are precious fellows who will luckily find a loving family. I'm totally agree with you that sometimes life is so unfair. I used to have a cat. We picked her up on the street, she was homeless. We brought her home and she was very sweet with me. Even she preferred to keep her own freedom by staying in our garage and had free run, but she would come to me or my mom every time we called her, or we were doing something in the garden, she came and followed us everywhere. After few months we've got her, I had a terrible allergic. We went to see the doc and he suggested us that we shouldn't keep the cat, even in the garage. I was so sad. Knowing that I had no better choice but had to give her up. Luckily, my aunt loves cats and she was willing to take Candy ( Yes, that's my cat name ). Sicne then she's stayed at my aunt's. before I came to Poland, I had chances to go visiting her. every time when we were about to leave, She sat in front of me looking like she was begging for something. When we walked to the car, she just followed us to the car and waited there. It was like she asked for permission to go home with us :cry2 It was so hard for me to walk away. I'm sure that my aunt takes a very good care of her. But one thing I cannot help myself thinking of it , is that probably Candy wonders why we gave her up, or if we don't want her any more. I cried so hard. I cried every time we came back from visiting her. Somehow, it's so unfair. We just have to move on. If you ever need someone to talk to, I'm always here and willing to listen to you. You've got a friend :hug1
Nela
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Jeff surprised me last week. He had ordered some lamps for the living room without telling me. Of course, we had looked together so he already knew I liked them :winkThey are gorgeous really. I think they fit the decor perfectly.
He was a bit disappointed because he ordered two small lamps (with the idea of putting them on each side of the tv) but they were slightly different. Actually, this was a relief to me because I really didn't think the lamps would be ideal there since we already have the standing lamp in corner and lamps beside the tv would be pretty useless but I didn't want to tell him since hehad taken the initiative and didn't want him thinking I would always find a better way so I might as well do it myself. Lol.So, in the end,I suggested (instead of sendingthem back)we put one on the shelf by the window and put the other either upstairs in his office or somewhere else. That seems to work out just fine for both of us. :biggrin:
While on our way to the DIY for the guinea pig things, we spotted a small store that had some kithen things and we figured we'd go take a peek after, just in case. See, ever since we've moved in, we've kept an eye out for chairs that would work with the dining table but everything we found was either very uncomfortable or very expensive. Each chair was about 150, 200, 250 euros :shock:
Anyway, we went in and the first thing spotted were two nice gray vases that we could put on each side of the tv. They were only 10 euros so we got those. We looked at the chairs and finally spotted some that would work. They are a dark gray suede like material and they also have handles and wheels. They were cheap, much cheaper than what we've seen, and we decided to get 4. The problem is that the 4 don't actually fit around the table. Lol. Anyway, it's no biggy. I've put the other in the designated office room for now and we simply have the 3 others downstairs. Luckily, they are light enough that I can easily carry the spare up and down. The other issue was that I had just gotten a nice dark blue runner for the table and that really clashed with the gray. Lol. I replaced it with the brown one I had for now but we will get a nice gray one instead.
I decided to put the blue one on the shelf in the window. I say shelf, but it's almost like a bay window. I even used to sit on it. It's not as large as a window seat would be though. The cats love it. Jeff also brought home a cute little flower basket. It looks great on the table but since the flowers need lots of sun, I put them in the window, between the rose pots. I should take a picture so you can see since it's hard to explain. Lol.
As for the vases, I wasn't too sure what we could put in them. We went to peek at the florist's and Jeff spotted these branch things that seem to be covered in a sort of like velvety material. Not sure how to explain really. I spotted bamboo shoots and thought of those but we decided to go with the branches since we wouldn't need to put water in the vases. We took a grayish blue color but we may also get the cream ones in the future.
Anyway, this is what the downstairs looks like these days...
The dining table with the new chairs. The runner isn't nice but you can see the flowers Jeff brought home though :biggrin::
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The living room with the lamp, vases, and branches:
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I'll have to get a closeup of the lamp and branches. Hehe. Next year, I'm hoping to attack the exterior. I've changed my mind about what I want to do with the yards so I am really looking forward to changing things! We have our hands full this year though
Oh and I forgot to mention...
We're off to France next week!!! Jeff was really wanting to introduce me to his father and now that I have quit school, it will allow us to do so before the holidays. We wanted to go this summer as he usually does but we were unable to do so with the furniture being delivered and me starting school. I'm really nervous but excited at the same time really. I've never been to France so it will be nice to go. His father owns a nice place and he has donkeys as well :biggrin2:The pets will be looked after by his mom and sister. I'm glad that they will help. The cats know his mom so that will help a lot. Baloo never does well without me and he usually goes off his food and hides for a while. We're only going for about a week though so it will be ok. His mom will visit regularly and she'll play with them cause she likes them too. She said she'd come by in advance to see how and what we feed everyone so that is nice of her. We're flying in so his mother will probably drive us to the airport and keep the car to go back and forth between her place and ours. No biggy either way, only 5 mins or so away by bicycle
He was a bit disappointed because he ordered two small lamps (with the idea of putting them on each side of the tv) but they were slightly different. Actually, this was a relief to me because I really didn't think the lamps would be ideal there since we already have the standing lamp in corner and lamps beside the tv would be pretty useless but I didn't want to tell him since hehad taken the initiative and didn't want him thinking I would always find a better way so I might as well do it myself. Lol.So, in the end,I suggested (instead of sendingthem back)we put one on the shelf by the window and put the other either upstairs in his office or somewhere else. That seems to work out just fine for both of us. :biggrin:
While on our way to the DIY for the guinea pig things, we spotted a small store that had some kithen things and we figured we'd go take a peek after, just in case. See, ever since we've moved in, we've kept an eye out for chairs that would work with the dining table but everything we found was either very uncomfortable or very expensive. Each chair was about 150, 200, 250 euros :shock:
Anyway, we went in and the first thing spotted were two nice gray vases that we could put on each side of the tv. They were only 10 euros so we got those. We looked at the chairs and finally spotted some that would work. They are a dark gray suede like material and they also have handles and wheels. They were cheap, much cheaper than what we've seen, and we decided to get 4. The problem is that the 4 don't actually fit around the table. Lol. Anyway, it's no biggy. I've put the other in the designated office room for now and we simply have the 3 others downstairs. Luckily, they are light enough that I can easily carry the spare up and down. The other issue was that I had just gotten a nice dark blue runner for the table and that really clashed with the gray. Lol. I replaced it with the brown one I had for now but we will get a nice gray one instead.
I decided to put the blue one on the shelf in the window. I say shelf, but it's almost like a bay window. I even used to sit on it. It's not as large as a window seat would be though. The cats love it. Jeff also brought home a cute little flower basket. It looks great on the table but since the flowers need lots of sun, I put them in the window, between the rose pots. I should take a picture so you can see since it's hard to explain. Lol.
As for the vases, I wasn't too sure what we could put in them. We went to peek at the florist's and Jeff spotted these branch things that seem to be covered in a sort of like velvety material. Not sure how to explain really. I spotted bamboo shoots and thought of those but we decided to go with the branches since we wouldn't need to put water in the vases. We took a grayish blue color but we may also get the cream ones in the future.
Anyway, this is what the downstairs looks like these days...
The dining table with the new chairs. The runner isn't nice but you can see the flowers Jeff brought home though :biggrin::
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The living room with the lamp, vases, and branches:
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I'll have to get a closeup of the lamp and branches. Hehe. Next year, I'm hoping to attack the exterior. I've changed my mind about what I want to do with the yards so I am really looking forward to changing things! We have our hands full this year though
Oh and I forgot to mention...
We're off to France next week!!! Jeff was really wanting to introduce me to his father and now that I have quit school, it will allow us to do so before the holidays. We wanted to go this summer as he usually does but we were unable to do so with the furniture being delivered and me starting school. I'm really nervous but excited at the same time really. I've never been to France so it will be nice to go. His father owns a nice place and he has donkeys as well :biggrin2:The pets will be looked after by his mom and sister. I'm glad that they will help. The cats know his mom so that will help a lot. Baloo never does well without me and he usually goes off his food and hides for a while. We're only going for about a week though so it will be ok. His mom will visit regularly and she'll play with them cause she likes them too. She said she'd come by in advance to see how and what we feed everyone so that is nice of her. We're flying in so his mother will probably drive us to the airport and keep the car to go back and forth between her place and ours. No biggy either way, only 5 mins or so away by bicycle
Nela
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Thanks Vircia. It's so hard to deal with. I'm sorry you had to go through it with Candy. At this time, I'm not actively looking to rehome them since Jeff has been caring for them. However, if ever he decides he no longer wants to or cannot, I will have no other choice. The only reason I consider it now is because his sister brought it up. Of course, I don't want the bunnies going anywhere. On the other hand, his sister is only 5 minutes away and it means I could still see them. It's just hard not knowing the future. If I knew for sure that we could continue like this forever, then I wouldn't allow the rabbits to go anywhere. If we can't though and they need to be rehomed, I'd much prefer they go to family and be nearby. Like you did with your cat. Then again, it must be a horrible feeling to see your cat long for you like that. I'm not sure what is best anymore. :expressionlessGah! If only there was a cure!!!
Thanks for caring and for writing. I always like your messages. :hugsquish:
Thanks for caring and for writing. I always like your messages. :hugsquish:
Bunny parents
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My dear Nela. Please don't think too much for now,OK ? It all will be OK. Take your time and the best solution will come. It was hard for me when I knew that I have to give her away, even to my aunt. But I couldn't even have her around the house. My allergies got worse and worse, then one day I couldn't even breathe. You're lucky to have your husband who helps you taking care your buns. I will pray for you and all of your bunnies. I pray for a cure for you ray:
Take care, nela. :hearts:
ray: Take care, nela. :hearts:
Nela
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Thank you Vircia, you're always so sweet
JadeIcing
Well-Known Member
You will do what is best for you and your family. Only you know what that is. *hugs*
Nela
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:faint:
Shoot me...
Just went out to feed and water the bunnies (okay and sneak in a kiss or two or so...) and what do I find in Giggles' hutch? She's nesting. There's absolutely no doubt that her neat little dug up hole lined with hay was a nest. :grumpy:I decided to clean the other half of the hutch since it was humid and dirty. She was grunting anytime I got close to the nest. :rollseyesI stuck a box in temporarily and of course it's over her hole so she is furious. She's probably destroyed it already. We have some MDF left so we can make her a proper one if need be... I sure hope to heck not. I would have to bring her inside. Plus, we're off to France next week. Now is really not a good time, nor ever really!!!
My concerns right now are for her. I mean, okay if it happened we will act on it accordingly but she's already a year old from what I have been told. I *believe* she has been bred before but i don't have a definitive confirmation to that. I have no idea of a proper vet and taking her to one to have her palpated or x-rayed would put her through a serious amount of stress.
On the other hand, she did enjoy cuddling in my arms and she let me rub her belly gently. (Yes, that was my attempt at feeling something) She definitely is displaying some behavioural differences and I had remarked a while ago that she was eating more pellets though they are shedding badly so I figured she might just be fattening up for the winter...
Let's just hope and I mean seriously hope that this is just a pseudo pregnancy type of thing! She's got me worried sick now :expressionless
Shoot me...
Just went out to feed and water the bunnies (okay and sneak in a kiss or two or so...) and what do I find in Giggles' hutch? She's nesting. There's absolutely no doubt that her neat little dug up hole lined with hay was a nest. :grumpy:I decided to clean the other half of the hutch since it was humid and dirty. She was grunting anytime I got close to the nest. :rollseyesI stuck a box in temporarily and of course it's over her hole so she is furious. She's probably destroyed it already. We have some MDF left so we can make her a proper one if need be... I sure hope to heck not. I would have to bring her inside. Plus, we're off to France next week. Now is really not a good time, nor ever really!!!
My concerns right now are for her. I mean, okay if it happened we will act on it accordingly but she's already a year old from what I have been told. I *believe* she has been bred before but i don't have a definitive confirmation to that. I have no idea of a proper vet and taking her to one to have her palpated or x-rayed would put her through a serious amount of stress.
On the other hand, she did enjoy cuddling in my arms and she let me rub her belly gently. (Yes, that was my attempt at feeling something) She definitely is displaying some behavioural differences and I had remarked a while ago that she was eating more pellets though they are shedding badly so I figured she might just be fattening up for the winter...
Let's just hope and I mean seriously hope that this is just a pseudo pregnancy type of thing! She's got me worried sick now :expressionless
Nela
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I had a very bad reaction yesterday after going in the shed. Luckily, the meds worked quickly but my chest is still heavy. Anyway, I took some time to think things through.
At this point in time, I'm not 100% sure she is pregnant. I did seem to feel some small round thing in her belly but then again I could have been feeling anything and I would be too stupid to tell the difference. I have decided to bring her into the house this weekend.
It might make me very sick but I am hoping that, with the few days to prepare my body, I can build up on the meds enough to control it properly. I would prefer she be inside so I can monitor her properly. Also, if she does give birth, I want the babies inside where it is warmer and easier for Jeff's mom to keep an eye on them.
I have found a list of vets that are supposed to have some experience with rabbits. I figure with all the pet rabbits in this country, surely someone somewhere must know something. The website the list was on had proper information so I am hoping the vets listed are good. I have not yet called them since I need Jeff to do it. We will get some information and see from there what we will do.
Like I said, at this point, I have no idea. The nest could have been started for a few days already and this might just be a hormonal thing. However, if it's not, I really don't want to lose her. Her life comes first. My main problem right now is that no matter which path we choose, I will not be here to take care of it myself. I am trying to make the best decision for her. I had decided against the spay because I was convinced the stress would kill her. Now though, if it's the only option, I will do it. However, I'm not rushing right now because if I act on a false alarm, I could very well kill her for nothing.
Suddenly this is all too close to what happened with Wiggles and I can feel my heart breaking. I just want to throw up and hold her tightly and wish I would never had assumed the playpen was safe.I can't take it back though so all I could hope for is that this is a false alarm. If it's not a false alarm, all I hope for is that the breeder had bred her in the past so she won't have the same risks as she'd face if she'd never been bred. Babies, we can deal with. Losing her justisn't something I am prepared to deal with.
At this point in time, I'm not 100% sure she is pregnant. I did seem to feel some small round thing in her belly but then again I could have been feeling anything and I would be too stupid to tell the difference. I have decided to bring her into the house this weekend.
It might make me very sick but I am hoping that, with the few days to prepare my body, I can build up on the meds enough to control it properly. I would prefer she be inside so I can monitor her properly. Also, if she does give birth, I want the babies inside where it is warmer and easier for Jeff's mom to keep an eye on them.
I have found a list of vets that are supposed to have some experience with rabbits. I figure with all the pet rabbits in this country, surely someone somewhere must know something. The website the list was on had proper information so I am hoping the vets listed are good. I have not yet called them since I need Jeff to do it. We will get some information and see from there what we will do.
Like I said, at this point, I have no idea. The nest could have been started for a few days already and this might just be a hormonal thing. However, if it's not, I really don't want to lose her. Her life comes first. My main problem right now is that no matter which path we choose, I will not be here to take care of it myself. I am trying to make the best decision for her. I had decided against the spay because I was convinced the stress would kill her. Now though, if it's the only option, I will do it. However, I'm not rushing right now because if I act on a false alarm, I could very well kill her for nothing.
Suddenly this is all too close to what happened with Wiggles and I can feel my heart breaking. I just want to throw up and hold her tightly and wish I would never had assumed the playpen was safe.I can't take it back though so all I could hope for is that this is a false alarm. If it's not a false alarm, all I hope for is that the breeder had bred her in the past so she won't have the same risks as she'd face if she'd never been bred. Babies, we can deal with. Losing her justisn't something I am prepared to deal with.
Nela
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I feel like crap. I am heading to bed. Thinking I will simply rehome everyone after this.
Nela
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It's been a very long and emotional day and night. However, I posted this elsewhere and want to post it here as well for anyone who might be thinking certain things. Not sure who actually gives a darn but I thought I should get this out there anyway.
(I would like to specify that no one has actually bashed me here about this specific situation yet. I know a few think it though but I am happy to say people on here have not put me down. Really only putting this up because I feel like I need to since I'm sure people question my moves.)
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Thank you for those who sent me a private message to cheer me up some. I had spent all day crying yesterday and it was very disconcerting to try and make an informed decision when instead of helping, most people were insensitive and berating. Not only on here but elsewhere as well and that is something too often encountered with animal lovers. It's okay to be passionate, but it's not okay to treat someone like they are stupid and make them feel worse especially when they are frantically trying to make things better.
I'm not saying this to defend myself because, quite frankly, I don't need to defend myself. I will explain because I think it is important that in the future, some people try to think about how they will respond to someone crying out for help. Sometimes, that person hasactually hasa reason as to why this and that wasn't done. Things like 'you should have' and 'why did you' could easily be turned into an actual 'would it have been possible' and 'would you have' question. It's much easier and it doesn't make someone feel worse.
I moved here to the Netherlands a few months ago. One thing I did fail on was being so darn excited about getting bunnies again that I didn't wait. I let myself get those rabbits and I do not regret it. I adore them and i am very happy to have them even if I have already decided I will no longer have any more in the future. Yes, that means I didn't find a veterinarian. We went to a recommended vet for their shots and it was really bad. I was not at all happy with the way things went. Giggles reacted really badly to the stress as well and that was something I already expected to happen.
Of course I wanted Giggles spayed but two things changed my mind for the present time. The vet said that in the Netherlands they don't spay the females because of the risk of anesthesia and complicationsthough they do neuters because it's not as invasive. Of course, I figure that a country with so many rabbits as pets should have a vet somewhere that knows something more than this one. It was a matter of finding it. However, I was and am truly concerned about her stress tolerance. I haven't had her long enough for her to truly trust me and I would at least like to work on that before risking anything. If you saw her, if you actually saw the fear in her eyes, saw and felt how frail she is, maybe you'd be a bit more understanding. Sure, I know the risks of not spaying. However, if I have to choose between risking her life now by doing a surgery that might stress her so badly (especially if I have no experience with the vet) and choose between having to make a decision when the time comes when something happens 'naturally' at this point I would have to say I would rather go down that 'natural' road. I'd rather she pass from something that she could get because that's how nature made their bodies, rather than kill her myself by making a wrong decision. You might not see it the same way, you are entitled to it. But until I can find a proper vet that I am confident in, that's the decision made.
While on the vet topic, the reason why I hadn't actively looked for one yet was because Smores will be ready any day for his neuter. I expected to go through vet search when I was ready to bring him in since he really should be neutered soon. I thought I would bring him in for a checkup and discuss his neuter and see how satisfied I was with that to decide on the vet. That's probably the one place I went wrong, though mostpeople would love to point out every other wrong thing i've done whether it be done in public or private.
As much as some of you are getting on my case about spaying her now, I find it unnecessary to endanger more bunnies' lives at this point. Something happened, and there are consequences. It isn't fair because this is something I didn't want and didn't plan. Those two rabbits were in a well-divided playpen with which we had never had problems before. I had split it with mesh in the past and that wasn't safe enough so we got a second playpen to put the extra grids in the middle to split it. So don't treat me like I wanted it to happen. I didn't. We had covered those things, or so we thought. Smores had never ever played with the stupid gate and how could I know he had a pair of hidden opposable thumbs that he could use at will. The only reason I ever put them in the playpen was for them to bond, which they absolutely loved doing through the fence. If you would see the look in Giggles' eyes when I put her near Smores... If you would see how she suddenly springs to life and forgets her fears... How they binky like fools to impress one another and lie against each other with only the fence dividing them... Maybe then you'd have understood why I even thought to put them in a divided playpen.
As for now, I am hoping it's a pseudo pregnancy though I realize it may not be a false alarm. There is also the possibility that she was bred (she does come from a breeder) in the past and would have no problems with the delivery as well. There are risks, as there are with any pregnancy. If she hasn't bred, then there was a fear of fused pelvis. Someone here mentionned that was not the case and so, if that is true, that is a big relief and hopefully, things would go okay. There's also the concern of her being so frail. It certainly doesn't help that Smores is a bit bigger as well. She's a small mini-rex, and he's the size of a small english spot. It's not a huge difference but I don't know how much trouble it could cause. Fortunately, I do have some knowledge since I did foster and rescue in the past. However, with the nerves and the thought of losing this girl who is so much like my heart bunny, it was easy to forget everything and try to seek the expertise of others. Something I should have known would only make things worse.
We did find a list of vets in the Netherlands (thanks to my limited dutch I was able to find more since there is very little in english). I will be asking my partner to call a fewto get their advice and locate an emergency vet. For now the decision has been made to 'wait and see' and not cause problems by assuming things and stressing over the unknowns. We will see how it goes, if she does have babies or not. At the first signs of any trouble, we will try a c-section if possible. I will not intentionallyrisk any life for as long as I can avoid it. Babies included. I have a few potential homes and I can deal with the babies for as long as it is needed.
Btw, putting my own severe health risks aside, I have decided to bring her inside to keep an eye on her and give her and any possible babies a better chance of survival. I am loading up on meds to prepare and then bringing her in. I didn't make this happen. I will not accept the blame as if I had intentionally done it. Do I regret it? Of course. Very much so. But one cannot undo what has been done, one can only undo what might happen now.
That's something people should remember. Stop berating and help with the present. I know it's frustrating sometimes, but not everyone is the same. Not everyone has bad intentions just because they went about things differently than you have.
Thanks for those who took the time to write me a message with a bit of encouragement. Thanks to those who tried to keep an open mind. We are grateful for the thoughts.
I'm off to spend some time with my girl. I've wasted enough time already.
(I would like to specify that no one has actually bashed me here about this specific situation yet. I know a few think it though but I am happy to say people on here have not put me down. Really only putting this up because I feel like I need to since I'm sure people question my moves.)
__________________________________
Thank you for those who sent me a private message to cheer me up some. I had spent all day crying yesterday and it was very disconcerting to try and make an informed decision when instead of helping, most people were insensitive and berating. Not only on here but elsewhere as well and that is something too often encountered with animal lovers. It's okay to be passionate, but it's not okay to treat someone like they are stupid and make them feel worse especially when they are frantically trying to make things better.
I'm not saying this to defend myself because, quite frankly, I don't need to defend myself. I will explain because I think it is important that in the future, some people try to think about how they will respond to someone crying out for help. Sometimes, that person hasactually hasa reason as to why this and that wasn't done. Things like 'you should have' and 'why did you' could easily be turned into an actual 'would it have been possible' and 'would you have' question. It's much easier and it doesn't make someone feel worse.
I moved here to the Netherlands a few months ago. One thing I did fail on was being so darn excited about getting bunnies again that I didn't wait. I let myself get those rabbits and I do not regret it. I adore them and i am very happy to have them even if I have already decided I will no longer have any more in the future. Yes, that means I didn't find a veterinarian. We went to a recommended vet for their shots and it was really bad. I was not at all happy with the way things went. Giggles reacted really badly to the stress as well and that was something I already expected to happen.
Of course I wanted Giggles spayed but two things changed my mind for the present time. The vet said that in the Netherlands they don't spay the females because of the risk of anesthesia and complicationsthough they do neuters because it's not as invasive. Of course, I figure that a country with so many rabbits as pets should have a vet somewhere that knows something more than this one. It was a matter of finding it. However, I was and am truly concerned about her stress tolerance. I haven't had her long enough for her to truly trust me and I would at least like to work on that before risking anything. If you saw her, if you actually saw the fear in her eyes, saw and felt how frail she is, maybe you'd be a bit more understanding. Sure, I know the risks of not spaying. However, if I have to choose between risking her life now by doing a surgery that might stress her so badly (especially if I have no experience with the vet) and choose between having to make a decision when the time comes when something happens 'naturally' at this point I would have to say I would rather go down that 'natural' road. I'd rather she pass from something that she could get because that's how nature made their bodies, rather than kill her myself by making a wrong decision. You might not see it the same way, you are entitled to it. But until I can find a proper vet that I am confident in, that's the decision made.
While on the vet topic, the reason why I hadn't actively looked for one yet was because Smores will be ready any day for his neuter. I expected to go through vet search when I was ready to bring him in since he really should be neutered soon. I thought I would bring him in for a checkup and discuss his neuter and see how satisfied I was with that to decide on the vet. That's probably the one place I went wrong, though mostpeople would love to point out every other wrong thing i've done whether it be done in public or private.
As much as some of you are getting on my case about spaying her now, I find it unnecessary to endanger more bunnies' lives at this point. Something happened, and there are consequences. It isn't fair because this is something I didn't want and didn't plan. Those two rabbits were in a well-divided playpen with which we had never had problems before. I had split it with mesh in the past and that wasn't safe enough so we got a second playpen to put the extra grids in the middle to split it. So don't treat me like I wanted it to happen. I didn't. We had covered those things, or so we thought. Smores had never ever played with the stupid gate and how could I know he had a pair of hidden opposable thumbs that he could use at will. The only reason I ever put them in the playpen was for them to bond, which they absolutely loved doing through the fence. If you would see the look in Giggles' eyes when I put her near Smores... If you would see how she suddenly springs to life and forgets her fears... How they binky like fools to impress one another and lie against each other with only the fence dividing them... Maybe then you'd have understood why I even thought to put them in a divided playpen.
As for now, I am hoping it's a pseudo pregnancy though I realize it may not be a false alarm. There is also the possibility that she was bred (she does come from a breeder) in the past and would have no problems with the delivery as well. There are risks, as there are with any pregnancy. If she hasn't bred, then there was a fear of fused pelvis. Someone here mentionned that was not the case and so, if that is true, that is a big relief and hopefully, things would go okay. There's also the concern of her being so frail. It certainly doesn't help that Smores is a bit bigger as well. She's a small mini-rex, and he's the size of a small english spot. It's not a huge difference but I don't know how much trouble it could cause. Fortunately, I do have some knowledge since I did foster and rescue in the past. However, with the nerves and the thought of losing this girl who is so much like my heart bunny, it was easy to forget everything and try to seek the expertise of others. Something I should have known would only make things worse.
We did find a list of vets in the Netherlands (thanks to my limited dutch I was able to find more since there is very little in english). I will be asking my partner to call a fewto get their advice and locate an emergency vet. For now the decision has been made to 'wait and see' and not cause problems by assuming things and stressing over the unknowns. We will see how it goes, if she does have babies or not. At the first signs of any trouble, we will try a c-section if possible. I will not intentionallyrisk any life for as long as I can avoid it. Babies included. I have a few potential homes and I can deal with the babies for as long as it is needed.
Btw, putting my own severe health risks aside, I have decided to bring her inside to keep an eye on her and give her and any possible babies a better chance of survival. I am loading up on meds to prepare and then bringing her in. I didn't make this happen. I will not accept the blame as if I had intentionally done it. Do I regret it? Of course. Very much so. But one cannot undo what has been done, one can only undo what might happen now.
That's something people should remember. Stop berating and help with the present. I know it's frustrating sometimes, but not everyone is the same. Not everyone has bad intentions just because they went about things differently than you have.
Thanks for those who took the time to write me a message with a bit of encouragement. Thanks to those who tried to keep an open mind. We are grateful for the thoughts.
I'm off to spend some time with my girl. I've wasted enough time already.
JadeIcing
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I really really wish I knew where it was coming from on this forum. I will be posting more later.
