Walking weird and not eating

[tiabia0]

Yes, it's thick. The vet calls it discharge and not to be gross but it's just like a womens discharge.

 

[Maureen Las]

Thats totally abnormal. Is she spayed.?
Are you sure that your vet knows rabbits because that is not a rabbit cold. I think that she is in pain from an infection.
If you want to try another vet why don't you pm treasured friend and she could recommend another one that would know rabbit health.

She needs treatment ASAP because this has probably gone on a long time without treatment and is just progressing to something worse.

I'm not blaming you but I am concerned about the vet that you are seeing.

 

[Phinnsmommy]

Hm, that doesnt seem right to me. Is this vet rabbit savvy?

Discharge is a sign of a severe intestional problem.. and I dont think rabbits get discharge like women do because they dont menstruate. lol gross, bu I think it had to be said

 

[naturestee]

What did the vet give you for her discharge last time? Did he give any antibiotics?

FYI, this isn't a "cold," rabbits don't get those and colds for humans are usually upper respiratory problems, not something that causes urine-type discharges. But if I remember right the vet you took her to was more of a cat/dog vet and not very rabbit savvy.

I wonder about bladder sludge/bladder infection. Those can get very painful, and if bad enough can even cause her bladder to be completely plugged. If her bladder is plugged or if she has developed a bladder stone in addition to the bladder sludge, it would explain the severe pain she seems to be in.

Would it be possible to take her to an emergency vet tonight? The one on Silver Spring in Milwaukee treats rabbits, I've been there before. If not, please take her to a rabbit savvy vet tomorrow, not the one you took her to before. I think TreasuredFriend had given you her vet's information and everything I've heard about him is great. If this discharge problem has been continuing since you finished the treatment the last vet gave you, then it wasn't properly treated. Don't take her to the same person so the same mistake gets made again.

 

[tiabia0]

It looks like female discharge. Should I give her more than .1cc of simethicone because sites I've looked at say 1ml.

 

[Maureen Las]

naturestee wrote:

What did the vet give you for her discharge last time? Did he give any antibiotics?

FYI, this isn't a "cold," rabbits don't get those and colds for humans are usually upper respiratory problems, not something that causes urine-type discharges. But if I remember right the vet you took her to was more of a cat/dog vet and not very rabbit savvy.

I wonder about bladder sludge/bladder infection. Those can get very painful, and if bad enough can even cause her bladder to be completely plugged. If her bladder is plugged or if she has developed a bladder stone in addition to the bladder sludge, it would explain the severe pain she seems to be in.

Would it be possible to take her to an emergency vet tonight? The one on Silver Spring in Milwaukee treats rabbits, I've been there before. If not, please take her to a rabbit savvy vet tomorrow, not the one you took her to before. I think TreasuredFriend had given you her vet's information and everything I've heard about him is great. If this discharge problem has been continuing since you finished the treatment the last vet gave you, then it wasn't properly treated. Don't take her to the same person so the same mistake gets made again.

I agree with everything Angela just said!!!

 

[naturestee]

Yes, 1 mL is the proper dose and can be given every few hours. But this isn't sounding like gas anymore...

 

[tiabia0]

I'm going to take her to the Bluemound Animal Hospital LLCtomorrow. We usually take her to elmbrook veterinary clinic. I'm going to give her the 1ml of simethicone and see if it does something because the .2cc's she was given weren't enough to begin with. This happened within the past 12 hours so I still think it's gas. The discharge mostly happened today, it's not an all the time thing.

 

[MsBinky]

Take her in ASAP. This sounds a bit (in terms of body shape etc)like what my girl had and it was very serious. Although she never had any discharge... I had noticed it and I knew something wasn't right but I didn't think it was that serious right away. I have a feeling it is a nasty infection.

I hope everything goes well tomorrow... ray:

 

[Pipp]

Angela (as always) is right.It's unlikely it's gas, and if it is, it's a byproduct of something else. (And for the record, you need at least 1 CC of simethicone, not .1 CC. I wouldn't bother with it though).

The discharge, assuming it'suninary or vaginal,means its more likely to bebladder sludge, stones, a raging infection or a uterine problem or a host of other serious things.

Sheneeds immediate vet treatment,a SubQ infusion will help mostof the above scenarios. She sounds severely dehydraded.

Pedialyte will be way better than plain water.The infusion would bebetter yet. A rabbit-savvy vet is a must.



sas ray:

 

[tiabia0]

We're taking her in early tomorrow morning. She finally took a bite of banana so that medicine must of done something and she got out a little poop. We're going to give her some water and food in a syringe.

 

[MsBinky]

Pedialyte should be given immediately and also make sure she is warm!!! That is the only thing that saved my bunny when she went downhill... So please, avoid letting her get worse and make sure she isn't dehydrated. If you pinch her fur pull upwards and kinda give it a tad twist, it should bounce right back. If not, she is dehydrated. But I will be honest, I wouldn't even bother checking. Pedialyte won't hurt her.

 

[Pipp]

tiabia0 wrote:

We're taking her in early tomorrow morning. She finally took a bite of banana so that medicine must of done something and she got out a little poop. We're going to give her some water and food in a syringe.

The Metacam is probably responsible for that (it takes about this long to work), but it's a false sense of wellness. Reality is it couldhave made it worse. Eliminating pain goes a long way towards making them feel well enough to eat and hopefully drink -- pain control is essential --but Metacamshould only be administered with food and especially water. It restricts the blood flow to the kidneys among other things.

One of the biggest rules in bunny vet care is to never give drugs like Metacam to dehydrated bunnies.They MUST have plenty of liquids and electrolytes, not just water. You really need Pedialyte. You can make your own if you can't get to a drug store, there's a recipe in the Library and in a few threads.

And quoting top bunny expertDana Krempels: "A sick bunny's belly may appear shrunken and feel very doughy[/b] due to dehydration."

I'm sorry I wasn't as attentive as I should have been when you first posted. For the record, gas is a temporary issue,it's accompanied by loud gut sounds and at least somerelief is evident with light massage, etc. THis is unlikely the problem in this case.



sas ray:

 

[Bo B Bunny]

Yeah, I wouldn't wait for an appointment honestly - I'd tell them it's serious and can they see her immediately.

I was thinking it sounds like she's cramping up some how.

 

[tiabia0]

We gave her some yogurt and she did fine with that as well as water. She's walking around in her cage now, before she wouldn't move! She made me put her down before when we were in the kitchen and she walked around then came down the basement stairs, scooped it out and went in her cage. I've got a towel near her and a heater so she's doing good.

 

[naturestee]

No yogurt please! Adult rabbits are lactose intolerant, so dairy products like yogurt can upset their stomachs. Have you gotten any fluids into her?

 

[Pipp]

tiabia0 wrote:

I gave her .1cc twice so far. I give her another dosage in 40 minutes. So far she's still acting strange. I gave her metacam like 4 hours ago but she still seems like she's in pain. Lots of discharge!

This is from your other thread.I'll reiterate -- you need probably a dropperful and a half of simethicone for bunnies. I give my guys one FULL cc, not .1, and they're little guys.

There's no harm in giving her Simethicone for brief periods -- hourly for three hours, four at the most -- but not extended periods.

Metacam will take eight hours to work, it's not great for instant pain relief. And it MUST MUST MUST be given to a well-hydrated bunny.

Can you take a photo of the discharge or at least describe it better? Where is it coming from, how thick is it,and what color is it? (Isit appearing as a dribble on her rear or a puddle on the floor?) And what is her pee looking like? (Is she peeing?)

She will feel better with the .3 cc's of Metacam, but given the discharge issue, it'smasking the problem.

I not keen on the homemade Pedialyte if you gave her yogurt, you can throw her gut balance out of whack, the sugar will make it worse. You'll need the unflavored stuff now from the drugstore.

sas

 

[MsBinky]

Just a personal opinion:

But since we really have no idea what is going on, I think we should cut on the meds and just keep the bun well hydrated, warm and eating hayif possible.

We really can't treat as we don't know what it is. It doesn't sound like gas to me so I doubt simethicone and stuff like that is really the best thing right now. Can we not use pumpkin or pineapple juice or at least something natural?

I dunno... Just an opinion

 

[Pipp]

Pain relief is an essential part of treatment, bunnies in pain won't eat or drink, but when pain meds are not administered correctly, the resultingkidney damage is a kill more than a cure.Kidney damage can be immediate and irreversible. Organ damagemay not be immediately evident,but it will impact the bunny's life.

It's a textbook case of why bunny slaves shouldn't attempt home treatment without Veterinary supervision.Even if the problem intially was just gas, that's probably not the case anymore. Hopefully the bunny will survive the kidney and gutissues as well as whatever the original problem was, butthe longterm prognosis will be guarded.

Poor bunny.



sas :tears2:

 

[cmh9023]

How is she doing now??I've heard its no use taking a rabbit to the Waukesha emergency clinic. The one in Milwaukee on Silver Spring is very good, but its pretty far from where she is and its extremely expensive. Not your "normal" expensive, really expensive.

If you can, I would take her to Brook Falls Clinic to Dr. Bloss rather than to the Bluemound Clinic. That's where Treasured Friend takes her buns and I've seen Dr. Bloss in the past.

I know you're doing the bestyou can.