Thumper AKA fuzzy butt!

[PaGal]

This whole soft poo thing is so frustrating. I am so careful, I mean I waited until he was 7 months to I found a list of safe veggies here on RO. It had two lists of food and said to feed a mix of three types of green per day. Two from one list, one from the other list. I carry it with me in my purse so when I shop I can double check. I keep track on the list of veggies I have introduced Thumper to. I don't think he's even had two teaspoons of fruit since I started feeding him more than hay and pellets.

I swear I feel like all I do is look at poops and try to get Thumper eating more hay or check on pregnant kitty for any signs of labor starting. I put him in his cage last night with a little less pellets than usual, little less veggies, a handful of his usual hay, a TP roll stuffed with his usual hay and his old feeder with the timothy hay in it. I doesn't seem like he ate all that much hay. I even told him before going to bed to be a good bunny, eat his hay and poop normal for me! I'll be letting him out in a few minutes and will be once again looking at poo. Sigh...I am happy to say that he continues to act normally and run around like crazy which keeps me from worrying more. I know buns are good at hiding illness but I would think he would slow down even a little and maybe not go so crazy when he runs around.

Why does it seem like he's not interested in hay so much anymore? Does it have to do with having two meals a day now instead of one? It seemed to me though that having pellets and veggies only at night plus whatever hay he ate would be just too much at one time. And of course as soon as I find something he really likes and think it's ok as a treat since it's not fruit so no sugar worries this happens so now I questions using the clover as a fruit. I know once his poop is normal I can start re-introducing everything to him slowly. I'm just worried and frustrated this morning. I'm tired since I don't sleep well add into it I'm not a morning person yet am up early and he brings so much fun and joy to my life. It's harder to enjoy it when you are so worried.

 

[PaGal]

Chris...For one I think you just cannot top the original. Some movies are just that way because they had such an impact and the original actors are so ingrained in your mind. Yes, I meant Johnny Depp...he is yummy for sure I just have issues with his views that I can't get past, just tired of people making a fortune here yet bashing the states. Now I'm done I won't get any more political than that I don't really have time for movies anymore anyway, sad as it may be. I am a huge JRR Tolkien fan and have yet to see the Hobbit although I can rent it on TV now, just no time.

 

[Chrisdoc]

I love the original, I´ve seen it so many times but Gene Wilder was great....and although I like Johnny Depp in some films, not as Willy Wonka, he was just too weird. I just hate how actors moan about how hard they have it.....yes it is but you´re getting paid a fortune for something you enjoy.....don´t get me started lol.

 

[whitelop]

I love the original Willy Wonka! Gene Wilder is amazing! I thought the new one was okay, but I didn't like the umpa loompa parts of it. BUT that kid, the kid that played Charlie, was the cutest kid I've ever seen. No joke, I totally love that kid! I just want to eat him up, with his big ears and his little face! haha. He is so cute! He's not a kid anymore, but when he was...adorable!

Denise, maybe you should add some different hay into his regular hay. I know you said you have hay bales, but sometimes I think they get tired of eating the same thing all the time. I have bale hay too, but I also get oat and timothy to add into her hay. Sometimes adding different stuff makes them want to eat the hay more. When I had Foo, she slowed down with the hay, so I decreased her pellets a bit and then added some botanical and orchard grass hay. As it turns out I'm allergic to orchard, so she didn't get orchard anymore. She got botanical and oat because later I totally took her pellets away. So everyday she got, coastal which was my bale hay, the majority was coastal that she got. Then she got oat and botanical and timothy sometimes too. She ate two entire small litter boxs filled with hay a day, thats A LOT of hay!
So maybe adding some "special" hay into the mix will help his hay eating!

The soft poops very well could be from the clover. You'll have to decide what to do with those, but I think cutting them back for now and then slowly reintroducing them, like one clover a day! haha. For the wild rabbits, they eat the same things everyday in the areas that they live, so their gut flora is adjusted to what they're eating. But they're still rabbits and they're still sweet junkies, so when they find the fruit bearing trees and bushes, they gorge on sweets just like our buns do! I bet they eat grass and whatever is normal to get everything going right again. You also have to think about the life span of a wild rabbit, its not that long. Probably only a few years.

 

[PaGal]

Well I have started giving him some timothy hay I bought a while back from the store. It smells wonderful and is a nice green color. I hand fed him some yesterday off and on. Put some in his old feeder in his cage last night but it looks like he didn't eat much at all. I am planning on making a trip to the pet store on Thursday so will also look at what they have available other than the timothy or alfalfa.

I know the wild rabbits only live for so long and all. I know the issue is with us domesticating them so they can't take care of it themselves. I was just having one of those mornings. Kids arguing over when to hang a new roll of toilet paper got me feeling grumpy since I'm not a morning person and I can not stand arguing and it went down hill from there. I'm sure you can understand with the mornings you have

 

[whitelop]

Oh I totally get it! haha. I have epically terrible mornings, so I understand! What usually ruins my morning is when my son is super whiny for no reason and its always before my coffee and while everything else is falling apart. I don't know why he gets so whiny, but I can't handle it. I couldn't imagine having more than one fighting with each other. Ugh, I would pull my hair out.

 

[PaGal]

Whiny is annoying as well but for me arguing is the worst. My ex was an arguer. I can remember getting in a fight once and for like an hour we argued because we were both mad but after an hour I had had enough and so went on with my day cleaning, cooking whatever and he followed me around for the next eight hours continuing to argue although after that first hour I never said another word to him. We were married a long time so now as soon as I hear arguing this horrible feeling washes over me and I feel like I just can't take it.

Stick with either one child or have one more but no more than that then the arguing doesn't happen as much. I think odd numbers adds to it as well.

They are good kids and I love them but sometimes they're just nuts like arguing over someone leaving some hair in the tub then putting that hair on whoevers towel you think the hair came from. It can be hilarious when it's not annoying. I should record it for when they're older and complaining about their kids. Ha!

 

[whitelop]

Hahaha. Wow. Sounds like you have a fun house. I've thought about having another, but I think that I'm good on just one.
AJ is in the super whiny phase and I can't take it. He whines about everything. I can't tell him to stop because that makes it worse. I naturally have like zero patience so when whining is added into it...look out. I don't snap on him, but everything else pays the price for his whining. Its like, even if I'm making him a drink its not fast enough. If I have food and he has food and he wants MY food but not his, he's upset. Then I'll eat his food and he's pissed at that too. But he just ate my food AND his food. Its just silly things that I don't know why he's upset over them, but he's really upset. Between him and the animals and my husband, my hub asks me why I'm tired...I just stare at him then I hold my arms out to motion at everything around us and he still doesn't get it. haha.
Sorry for the ranty take over. Its been one of those days.

 

[PaGal]

Not a problem. Rants are always welcome here. It took me most of the day to get out of my grumpiness from the morning. I get the same from my hubby at times. he forgets at times that I had kids early and have raised them so I've been through it once and then started again with the girls so I'm a little more worn out than him.

 

[PaGal]

Thumpers poos aren't quite back to normal. I did not see any that were soft and they felt pretty solid. The color is still off though. Thumper spent most of the day lounging in his dig box which is not out of the ordinary for him. Plus I think he wore himself out yesterday as I kept stopping to see him on my way through his room. I wanted to check on him plus would try to get him to eat hay. Well all he kept wanting to do was play which I figured if he was feeling like playing then it wouldn't hurt and might give him a better than normal appetite and get him to eat more hay.

In the evening I went in his room and carefully made my way across the room to turn his light on so I could see and I walked back to him and laid down on the floor right by him and he flopped right in front of me. So of course I had to stay there and let him sleep and watch as he wiggled his cute mouth. Made the kids five minutes late for bed though. Since then I have spent a good part of the evening in his room feeding him hay and playing for short bursts. He ate more hay then expected and some of each kind. He's in his cage for the night now. A bit early but he'll probably play more tomorrow since it should be a very quiet day. Hopefully he will eat more hay since he has less options on what he can do. Again he has plenty of hay in his cage and of both kinds. He only got 1/2 cup of pellets broken up into two meals and just a little romaine this morning. I also gave him fresh water just because. Here's to hoping his poops are normal in the AM.

 

[HolyHandGrenade]

Darn it, here I was gonna say Monty got missed by the funky poo fairy that's visiting everyone else, but Monty's a little off tonight. Her poop is normal, but I just observed her go through a minute-long bout of hiccups, and then her guts were being a LOT louder than usual. I got her to step partway into my lap, and as I felt around underneath her, I felt a really big gas bubble move and there's one spot she really doesn't want me to touch. I think she feels a little tiny bit firmer than usual, but I haven't felt her tummy in a couple weeks so I don't quite remember. I administered some orchard grass (hay I use as a treat because it's expensive but she LOVES it), and I'm pondering offering her a dose of simethicone before I go to bed...she seems to be in good spirits and the b/f didn't mention anything out of the ordinary, just the usual lots of binkies when she was out.

Maybe I'm just paranoid.

 

[PaGal]

HolyHandGrenade...sorry I didn't catch this last night. I hope you gave her some simethicone as it can't hurt but could help. I don't know what's up with all the bunny poo. I would just keep an eye on her. The one nice thing is Thumper hasn't changed his behavior at all that I notice, still playing and all. He even let me rub his tummy last night. It felt fine to me and no gas bubbles.

 

[whitelop]

Ellie's poop seems a little darker than normal, but its the right size and shape and consistency now. Her behavior is still crazy, so I think she's pretty normal.
I wonder whats going on with the buns? The season change? Hmm...its interesting though!

 

[PaGal]

Morgan...I think it's a conspiracy. All the buns are in on it with the sole purpose of driving us nuts or nuttier anyway! Ha

 

[JBun]

Are Thumpers poops back to normal today?

Morgan, how much of the pellets are you feeding Ellie now?

 

[PaGal]

I haven't seen any soft poops today. Early this morning one of the girls mentioned Thumper was eating hay. An hour later or so I witnessed him eating hay. It did appear that he ate hay during the night as well as there was less in his cage and also his feeder of hay looked less full.

I think he is a tad to relaxed with me. I stopped in his room and tried feeding some hay, he wasn't interested but I did stay for a little while petting him. I was petting his back and while doing so he decided to eat some cecals. Silly bun!

I shop at Wal- Marts for groceries. There are two I shop at. The one doesn't have much else around it that I go to, just a dollar store and a drug store. I shop there most often as it's less crowded and not much traffic or highway to deal with. The other one I have to get on the highway to get to but takes 20 minutes or go off the highway and take 40 minutes. It's also more crowded and more traffic but has many other stores around it, the mall. So I was going to shop it the least favorite one because there is a pets smart there and I was going to pick up some other hay for Thump. But I realized I also have to go near the other one as well because I also have to get his litter which I get from a farm store as well as some egg cartons. Oh what we go through for these buns!

Have I mentioned I don't like shopping?

Oh and last night while I was hand feeding him hays, I would pick a piece of hay that I thought looked worthy of him and would then hold it near his nose so he could sniff the aroma to judge whether or not it met his standards. There were some times when I was not sure if he was refusing to eat the hay or just not done eating the last piece. He kept stopping in the middle of eating to listen to my hubby in the garage. Usually if he doesn't want a piece of hay he will grab it from me with some bunny tude, bite it in half and drop it to the floor. Not last night. So I would tickle his mouth with the end of the hay. If he was just pausing in his eating he would just flat out ignore it. If he was not currently eating and was refusing that piece of hay he would stick his tongue out and push the hay with his tongue. Too funny! Ha

 

[whitelop]

Are Thumpers poops back to normal today?

Morgan, how much of the pellets are you feeding Ellie now?

I'm feeding her right around 1/2 a cup a day, morning and night feedings. It takes her like 12 hours to eat all the pellets, then I put more in. She gets a lot of hay and eats A LOT of hay. I'm going to wait a few months and then I'll cut her pellets back even more, once she gets more greens I'll cut them down to like 1/4 cup a day because she's still very small. I've been super slack on the greens. She gets cilantro and romaine and thats pretty much it. Since its summer, she'll get more, but I'm a slacker! haha.

 

[PaGal]

JBun..I haven't seen any soft poops today. They are starting to look more of the consistency they should be. The color is still off a little. He has been eating more hay today than I have seen him eat in a while so hoping that will do the trick.

 

[Chrisdoc]

Mine all seem Ok now but how weird that they all decide to have crazy poop at the same time. My first aid kit is looking quite good now so I feel prepared for anything. Must get some more simethicone tomorrow, my sister had a bad tummy last week so I gave here some....told her she had to thank the bunnies :bunnieskiss

Hope everyone gets back to normal soon.

 

[Katielovesleo3]

I am a little scared that I will start seeing scary poos too!!! I hope everybun gets better soon!