Rebirth of the Phoenix from Ashes

[whitelop]

Awww. I knew they were getting into scuffles, but maybe I didn't understand it was getting into a full fight. How sad!

I guess they just don't get along. But its confusing to me too that they would lay next to each other in their cages and then they fight when they're together. Its a little baffling.
Remember with female/female bonds, those are REALLY hard to create. I agree that you'll have to find a VERY laid back bun to pair with her. I hope it all works out. What I really want is for you to put them together tomorrow and they just get along! That would be like magic and it would be amazing. I know you're probably sad and upset, but its okay. We're all here for you! :hearts

Didn't something bad happen to Hippogryff's bond-mate? Maybe thats what it is, maybe he just doesn't want to be bonded because he remembers what happened or something.

 

[holtzchick]

Okay, you know, I spoke to the rabbit rescue director last night and she really urged me to try again. She said housing them next to each other is fine but just not to do other sessions this week. In my opinion their bonding outlooks are VERY prolonged but they have had success with a lot of bunnies. I think I will simply revamp their cages since I hate the cardboard, time to bring out the NIC cubes. I swear if I ever get these two bonded, I will always adopt pairs from here on out!

Yes Hippos bond mate had passed so maybe he is just grumpy oh and the woman advised me to not let any nipping start which is why they didn't tolerate each other.... Apparently when I first introduce them the sessions are only supposed to last a minute maximum.... At this point Im thinking wtf that's so short but im willing to give it my best shot for the sake of these two!!!

Thanks so much for the support everyone! I have my good days and my bad and you've certainly seen a lot of the latter lately!

 

[Chrisdoc]

Oh Michelle, I know just how you´re feeling and it is so hard and you do really want them to hit it off but NOW and it doesn´t move quick enough. I´m just watching Houdini who I´ve let out on his own for a while and he´s been stuck next to the enclosure where Snowy is sniffing him through it. That´s the closest they´re gonna get today after the nose bite yesterday but I still am convinced they will re-bond when I have the time to spend with them. Once of the biggest problems while I´ve been between houses is that they´re most active at night and they have been accumstomed to being out until late at night and they´re closed in now and that excess energy could be what has broken their bond.

I really wish I could give you a miracle solution to sort it all out but there just isn´t one and if you feel, deep down, that it isn´t gonna work then maybe it is time to look at the best for all of you. I am absolutely praying for a miracle for you and nothing would make me happier that you telling us that they´re together and OK.

I just adore all these little bunnies but sometímes they are such complicated little buggers.

 

[Ilovemyrabbit]

:yeahthat:

It can get really annnoying with bonding sometimes. And I agree with Imbrium girl+girl bonds are harder than boy+girl bonds. I wonder if you will have to return Hippogrypph and get a new bunny. Do you have any breeds in mind?

My fingers are crossed for a sucessful session with Hippogrypph and Phoneix.

 

[holtzchick]

Yeah, well, I'm going to give it at least a few weeks before I try a single session again. They just need time.

In the mean time, I am revamping their enclosures a little with NIC cubes all along the perimeter to make it easier that I don't have to watch them like a hawk when they're out. I always watch them, but it does get tiring after a long day at work. I'm hoping if I make it a more permanent solution (as opposed to cardboard) it will be less stressful for me. I feel so horrible for these two that they don't get enough out time. I feel like a bad bunny mom and it's so not fair to them!

 

[Ilovemyrabbit]

Yeah, I think you should give it some time before you do another session.

And I know how you feel about the whole watching them when the are out thing. I have to watch Ash when he is out too. And it gets tiring.

And please don't blame yourself. Its not your fault that things aren't working out.

 

[whitelop]

Don't beat yourself up about them not getting enough out time. When I had my son, Foo stayed in her cage for a solid like 4 months. She got out like one time a week. It was really sad and horrible for me to do that to her. I used to sit with her in the floor and cry over her because I didn't let her out enough. I was just so tired from having a newborn and a husband who did nothing. Its exhausting taking care of a house and a child, on top of all kinds of animals. Wow, sorry for the rant/over share. I think I just had some sort of mental break down. lol

I think you're right, maybe taking the cardboard down will make you feel better. I understand how your feeling, like a little overwhelmed looking at the cardboard? I know you're pretty clean, with the clean modern lines and stuff. And cardboard does not look clean! I really hate cardboard. Yuck.

You know more about bonding than I do, of course. I just really hope they sort it out and wind up liking each other. I'm sending you good thoughts and Ellie is sending Hippogryff and Phoenix good thoughts! We all want to see them bond, probably none of us want it as much as you. But we're all here for you. We've got your back!
:muscleman:

 

[Chrisdoc]

Michelle glad to hear you are going to give it another try. I also have to watch over mine when they're out as sometimes they're just so naughty. The good news is that I had them all out today although Snowy was on the sofa with me but Houdini did jump on the other sofa and jumped across and there was no kissing with teeth today just sniffing and a quick push from Snowy telling Houdini to clear off so I feel a bit more positive.

Cardboard is a nightmare. I have a piece across one of the sides of the enclosure as Bandy and Snowy jumped over it and I haven't had time to make any adjustments so have large piece of thick white cardboard at that side to stop them doing it again. If they'd have had my three in "The Great Escape" it would all have been over in 10 minutes.

You're a great bunny mum and don't ever doubt that, I'm sure you'll find your way with these two, I'm certainly rooting for you all.

 

[whitelop]

Hey Michelle! Where are you?! lol, jk.
I hope everything is going well with the buns, I was thinking about you guys today.
I hope they're getting along better!

 

[holtzchick]

HEY! wow. you read my mind! I was just about to post! Thank you guys SOOOOO much for making me feel better about the way I've been with them lately!!

NEW YEAR = NEW START.

I spent the last week revamping their cages and have a finished product. I also got them some "cat tents" at the dollar store instead of a hidey hole box since they were taking up too much space in the cages. I got all of my NIC cubes that I once used for Peter's cage and made a 3 inch perimeter barrier between both cages surrounding both sides so when they are out I don't have to watch and see if they are biting one another in the cage.

ALSO, I went to Canadian Tire and finally found wood stove pellets and it turns out it is an item that htey stock regularly!!! It smells fantastic! It controls odor SOO well...

Here are some pictures of the cages

My boyfriend was laughing since he said it looks complicated as if I were building a space ship LOL... took me a lot of modifications but I am so happy with it as of right now!

I'm sorry if all the caps are making me sound obnoxious I am just really positive about this whole thing right now and excited, so I thought they would help emphasize.

I would also like to take a moment to send my congratulations to Audrinasmommy and baby Liam as I just read the news of his birth

I wish everyone the best in this new year and I think it will be a great one. Thank you for stopping by to read this blog, you all mean so much to us

 

[whitelop]

It kind of does look like a space ship! hahaha. I'm so happy that you're giving this another go. I really hope they get on with each other this time!

I bet you can't wait to have them bonded, to get them down to one cage and have your living room back! haha. I so hope it goes well, they're such special bunnies and they really deserve each other!
I also so glad you're feeling so much more positive about this.
Ellie and I are sending good wishes to the buns to help them bond with each other. :dutch :hearts

 

[Imbrium]

nice design - their area looks great now! very safe and more aesthetically pleasing than the cardboard barriers

 

[holtzchick]

Thanks took me a while to figure out how to make the doors since they're so stiff.

Oh by the way Morgan,I forgot to mention, my boyfriend has had a fascination with bunny foo foo lately. He was walking around the house and I heard him say her name I was just like ugh what did you say?! Apparently he remembers when I told him all the stories of her and he even googled her. He's really weird but he means well. Just thought itd be cute to share

 

[whitelop]

That is sweet! That just brought some tears to my eyes but it made me smile too.

 

[Imbrium]

he GOOGLED Foo? that's new levels of weird, lol

 

[whitelop]

She probably meant the nursery rhyme of Little Bunny Foo Foo, probably not MY Foo. lol, unless he really did google MY Foo, then that would be a little odd. I'm going to google her and see what comes up! hahaha. I still sing the nursery rhyme to myself.

I just googled her and you have to type in Bunny Foo Foo rabbits online for MY bun to come up. If you just type in Bunny Foo Foo, its the nursery rhyme and a south park episode, lol.

 

[Chrisdoc]

Michelle, I´m so glad you´re giving it another try, I´m sure that in the end things will work out for them but it is such a long process and takes lots of patience which sometimes is hard to find. I´ve still got two grumpy boys and am in the process also of getting them together again but it´s taking time. I´m sure it will happen but it just seems a long way to that stage and sometimes I don´t know if I can keep going but I have to for them as they deserve it. Love the cages now, yes you do have patience to do all that for them but when it´s down to one, you´ll look back and laugh at it all.

 

[holtzchick]

She probably meant the nursery rhyme of Little Bunny Foo Foo, probably not MY Foo. lol, unless he really did google MY Foo, then that would be a little odd. I'm going to google her and see what comes up! hahaha. I still sing the nursery rhyme to myself.

I just googled her and you have to type in Bunny Foo Foo rabbits online for MY bun to come up. If you just type in Bunny Foo Foo, its the nursery rhyme and a south park episode, lol.

No... you're both right, he's just really wierd. He googled your Bunny Foo Foo since he has no clue about the nursery rhyme. I don't know why he would do that, but he has had a fascination with her since I showed him pictures...

My boyfriend is uh.... special... :hbunnysmell:

AWHH... I just googled Bunny Foo Foo and the nursery rhyme is so cute!!! It's adorable! I miss Foo so much!

 

[holtzchick]

Michelle, I´m so glad you´re giving it another try, I´m sure that in the end things will work out for them but it is such a long process and takes lots of patience which sometimes is hard to find. I´ve still got two grumpy boys and am in the process also of getting them together again but it´s taking time. I´m sure it will happen but it just seems a long way to that stage and sometimes I don´t know if I can keep going but I have to for them as they deserve it. Love the cages now, yes you do have patience to do all that for them but when it´s down to one, you´ll look back and laugh at it all.

Haha yeah, I will be happy and my boyfriend will be ecstatic that there will be no more cages They will both be free range.

 

[whitelop]

I'm not sure what to say! lol. Thats a little weird of him! hahah. What happened when he googled her, did he find my blog? I'm actually really glad that everyone loved Foo too, and that her life had a little meaning to someone other than me.