Our Clan...now & always..

[Azerane]

Apologies that I'm a little behind here and I'm very sorry to hear that she's still not doing well. If the next medication doesn't work, perhaps it could be something environmental. Does she chew on anything besides her actual food? I noticed the grass mat in the photos, sometimes they can cause stomach upsets. I know it's not very helpful advice, but really want her to get better

 

[Orchid]

Apologies that I'm a little behind here and I'm very sorry to hear that she's still not doing well. If the next medication doesn't work, perhaps it could be something environmental. Does she chew on anything besides her actual food? I noticed the grass mat in the photos, sometimes they can cause stomach upsets. I know it's not very helpful advice, but really want her to get better

Oh hey no worries and thanks so much for caring!
She doesn't pay them too much attention. Or any of her toys. I just started buying more things for her to destroy actually because she just started in on the chewing things. Like going after wires. Protected all of those but she has this habits of trying to go after table legs. The ones in my living room in particular. The one end table that is like a coffee table in the center of the carpet. It is like she resents its existence you know.
I worry if she was digging and chewing at the carpet right under where she lays so I put down nic panels and she stopped that.
ummm.
Can't think of anything else to be honest.
We have tried her on Kale but that was after all of this was going on and something strikes me as it doesn't sit right with her.
I can't say why, but thats my gut on it you know so I haven't been giving it to her.
Staying with the red leaf and romaine and her pumpkin.
I wait on the pumpkin till evening though because I don't want her being like, oh I don't have to eat because well I have that coming.
The vet wanted me to back her down to like an 1/8 cup of pellets but when I did that she like stopped pooping so I was like sod that and I give her some and give her a bit of time once she runs out and hope she munches hay and wait and refill her dish after a time.
But again she was like stellar that 2nd week on the smz tmp.
I wasn't doing pumpkin. I wasn't feeling worried. blah blah. UGH.

The people below me smoke.
I can't do anything about that one. Drives me batty....

 

[Orchid]

Is there any way they can get you guys in any quicker?
We've got that snow storm coming here in Maryland Monday.
I would not want to wait and have us get a ton of snow since
they have started calling for over 12 inches on Monday and
knowing Maryland Department of Highways, I doubt they could
keep half of the roads clean or cleared..

You guys as always are in my thoughts, but I would call back and mention
the upcoming storm coming in from the West and see if they can get you in any earlier... just a thought..

(and I'm glad you liked my analogy..about bites and speeches from the President.. even after I wrote that I flexed my toes near her, because I almost fell and knocked the entire middle of my small toe nail off and
she thought I was messing with her, grunted and BIT my toe!!! anic:

At least she didn't bite the one missing the toe nail, she got the one beside it and I have a cute imprint of her tooth now on my toe! :devil

Vanessa

Sadly it is about the money too Vanessa.
I could take her Monday as I will have funds hit my bank account that day but as you mentioned we will all be kinda screwed that day. Mother nature and Jack Frost just aren't playing nice this year.
I do not want her seeing that Dr. Urie or Dr. Williams again...I want her with Dr. Gold. Wednesday at 11ish turned into our best option mostly because it is going to snow Monday. So short of that storm passing us by on Monday.......No. It has to be Wednesday.

We are keeping her going.
Romaine, pumpkin, keeping her running around and playing and Lina sits with her and literally shoves hay in her face and makes her chew some till she gets too PO'd and runs off. lol...kinda funny.
Lina slept out in the dining room with her again last night.
It was funny she was like OMG mom she won't stop it is 6am and she is going crazy. I just smiled, rolled over in my comfy bed and was like she's a morning sort of gal.
She is drinking. She will eat her pellets. She will eat the romaine but even seems to be losing some interest in that. Just not as excited when she hears that come out. Same with the pumpkin.
If we were to ignore this I believe we would be in serious trouble.
I think we will be okay as long as we stay on top of her till Wed morning.
Which we do.

I really want to get that Sierra hay!! Why do people have to charge so much for shipping ugh!
A friend of mine is going there soon. I was like okay get me some and carry that back on the plane. He laughed at me and was yeah like that would go over well.

Thank you so so much for all your support!!

 

[Orchid]

You obviously saw an improvement on the meds, and a downturn when coming off them. Fecals can come back showing inaccurate results sometimes, but I would think even then the vet would still want to treat, either for coccidiosis or bacteria, or even both to cover your bases, as it is apparent that there is an issue, no matter what the results are showing.

Wed. is awfully far away, especially for a bun that's eating has changed and may have a serious digestive parasite, because coccidiosis is serious and things can change pretty quickly. If it were me, I would want to be in there today or tomorrow, if at all possible.

I wish we were able to.
Monday would have been the soonest but we have the storm coming. That set to Wed. Their office probably won't even be open on Monday because of it.

 

[JBun]

Could you maybe pick up some more smz tmp today, just enough to tide you over until wed., since it did seem to help her? And it could maybe keep it from getting worse until you get into the vet.

 

[Orchid]

Could you maybe pick up some more smz tmp today, just enough to tide you over until wed., since it did seem to help her? And it could maybe keep it from getting worse until you get into the vet.

I have some left in the original bottle. It wasn't all the way empty and I didn't throw it out.
You think it a good idea? Even though it's a short course? I know she's gained weight but I don't know how much.
I would have to err in the side of caution and do the original amount I would think.
I'm all for anything that improves her.
I'm all out of Bene sadly.

 

[JBun]

I don't know about doing a short course, but I do know how horribly awful coccidiosis can be, how often it proves to be fatal to rabbits, and how quickly a rabbit can go from being just fine to critically ill in just a matter of hours. If your bun does indeed still have it, then I would be very concerned about how her current appetite seems to be worsening and about the possibility of it being due to possible coccidia.

It would be best if you can get a hold of your vet to ask, and I certainly can't advise you to use a rx. But if you do try it, it's probably best to stick with the original dosing. And who knows, if you do see an improvement and want to continue with it, you could always just refill and continue the course when you see the vet.

I just know that if it were my bun, I would be so worried about having to wait the 4 days, knowing how serious my buns condition might be.

ETA: Actually, I'm a bit surprised your vet didn't suggest continuing it until you could get back in to them, considering how serious coccidiosis is.

 

[Orchid]

Sigh. I like my vet less every day.

 

[JBun]

You're not alone. Finding good rabbit vets is extremely difficult. I had to take a bun to the vet recently, and was so upset by the end of it, that it took me days to get over it, and I've vowed never to go back there. I'm a bit envious of all the rabbit specialists they have in the UK, and really wish we had more here.

 

[Orchid]

You're not alone. Finding good rabbit vets is extremely difficult. I had to take a bun to the vet recently, and was so upset by the end of it, that it took me days to get over it, and I've vowed never to go back there. I'm a bit envious of all the rabbit specialists they have in the UK, and really wish we had more here.

Lovelops really likes her vet & I wish we could get over that way. I even thought what about the train but that just won't work.
I was looking at Mondays forcast.
For me it's up to 5-8 inches. By the Chadwell vet it says - Snow likely. Cold. High 22F. Winds N at 10 to 20 mph. 6 to 10 inches of snow expected.

No one's going anywhere Monday.
They couldn't offer me Tuesday with Dr. Gold at a time I could get there.

Just walking into the vet in Middletown DE is like 60 bucks.
I'm starting to think though. Maybe I just should.

Lina is running to Walgreens for the small syringe. The lines on ours have disappeared.
I'm going to go ahead and give her the smz.

I'm also going to take poop from today and set it aside. Once we start the smz it may hide something in a fecal they do.

My stomach feels in knots.
Stupid storm.

 

[Orchid]

Off to make her hate me just a little more.

 

[JBun]

What I did after my bad vet experience, was send emails to the rabbit vets around here, mentioning my bad experience and that I was looking for a new vet, and then told them about my rabbits medical issues, and asked for some specifics on treatment and medications. I knew that they couldn't be too specific without an actual exam, but their answers were actually somewhat helpful in determining what vet I am going to try next. The questions were ones like what is the typical dose of metacam they would give to a rabbit for general pain, how they would initially treat something like a URI, basically questions that I already know how a good rabbit vet would treat and things they would do, so I could see if they were anywhere near what I felt was appropriate treatment.

I would just think that any good rabbit vet, knowing my bun has had coccidiosis, and is now starting to loose appetite and feel sick again, would either want me to come in immediately or continue the treatment that was working until I could get back in. I don't know. That's just what would make sense to me. And it may be that this Dr. Gold is your best option, just not a perfect one.

Giving the meds is probably what I would do in your situation too. And saving a fecal is a good idea as well. I would assume that it probably would need to be refrigerated until you take it in.

She'll love you again... one day when she's all better

 

[Orchid]

I like your email idea.
I might think about that. See I feel a little trapped because the PA vet was just ridiculous. They want a kidney to treat you know.
Middletown DE is reasonable but I live on disability so I always have to be very careful.
Chadwell is on HRS list and well priced. Best priced for spay etc.
I thought this was our best choice.
My car is going.
No one local will touch a bun.
They all refer to Chadwell.

The things you raise make me think more and more they just aren't on it and what am I saving because it sure won't be sloane's life.

We haven't seen this Dr. Gold yet.
I think maybe give him a shot?
If I'm still so unhappy I'll have to go to Middletown DE vet.
Higher prices but she'll be treated better I can hope. No toll to pay going that way either.

She's really ticked at me.
I picked her up and she was wet everywhere and smelled like pee.
Could be I changed her pans.
She doesn't like new things or change.
I gave her a sorta butt bath and dried her off.
She smelled really bad but I do have super sensitive smell.
I used the ammonia And cleaned all pans & dishes.
I put out new pellets, fresh water, fresh sweet Meadow Timothy mixed with alfalfa.
Gave another cube of pumpkin. A bit of romaine.
Gave a dose of smz tmp & gas drops.

She has eaten a bit of all.
She's drank some.
She's sitting on that pad we can heat up or freeze... Right now we warmed it up in the microwave.
Lina said she's been sitting there a bit now.

She runs when I come near.

 

[Orchid]

Pictures

 

[Orchid]

Those hays on the floor believe it or not.... The greener one was all like shake. OXBOW.

The browner one with things still attached was the Sweet Meadow.
We were checking the hay because we found a beatle.
We decided to use oxbow bag lol and got rid of their hay.

 

[lovelops]

Hell after reading Jbuns post I feel like driving up there and helping you guys out with the car angle.

Elkton isn't *that* far I mean I know you guys are up in the corner of the state near the DE/PA state line, but MD is a small state. Let me know if you guys need any help after seeing the vet this Weds... ok?

Vanessa

 

[Orchid]

Couch smooshing

 

[lovelops]

She is so cute!! I hope she is better today!

Vanessa

 

[Azerane]

Haha, that first picture of couch smooshing is simply adorable!!

 

[Orchid]

I made a decision to make an appointment at the Vet in Middletown DE. I'm cringing at the prices and I'm not sure....but really.
We're going at 3:30.
Sod you snow.

$67 for am exam
$31.10 for a fecal

The critical care & Bene bac are on the way from amazon but won't be here till tomorrow.

What will they find?
What will meds cost?
Ugh!
Those roads better be cleared!

Dr. Weir is this vets name.
Atlantic Vet Center.

Cross your fingers for good things.
Gotta go get ready.
Maybe they'll say it's not coccidia and she's being picky?
I know. I'm dreaming.