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[~Bracon~]

Ok I came in about an hour ago and I found the rabbits in the same room together with no one in there!!:?My mum had put them in together because she felt sorry for them by thereself:XThere seperated for a reason! Im really worried now incase Bracon is pregnant, I told my mum and she said she doubts she would be, but how does she know? She wasnt there the whole time.

Im so p***** off!

Ive told my parents about all of this before, but I think unless you have some sort of qualification they wont listen! Shes only 4months old, and thats way too young isn't it?!

:tears2:

 

[binkies]

Oh dear! She isn't too young to get pregnant, but she is too young I believe (not 100% sure) to have a safe, easy delivery (if there is such a thing). I'm so sorry this happened. It is so odd that the roles here are reversed. A parent should be fussing at the children for doing something like that.

I highly reccommend that you get her spayed asap. That is how I lost Ivory, an accidental pregnancy with deadly complications. I didn't spay her because I thought couldn't murder the babies, now I wish I hadn't thought of it that way. It would have been saving a life.

 

[JadeIcing]

I don't know. Crossing my fingers.

How old is Warren?

 

[Flashy]

*hugs*

He's also very young. Have his testicles descended yet? If not, then you are probably ok.

Try not to panic, 4 months is young, but we had a rabbit accidently get pregnant at about 4 months and she delivered her babies ok. They died, but she was ok. If you are really concerned that she could be pregnant, then in about 10 days take her to the vets to get a scan, and if she is pregnant, discuss the option of a spay (I believe they can do this whilst they are pregnant) which would obviouslystop the pregnancy.

Maybe you could look into getting a run for inside where one can be outside the run and one can be inside the run, so that they are together, but apart, if that makes sense.

Hang in there

 

[JadeIcing]

I was thinking the same maybe he is still to young.

 

[~Bracon~]

He's only 8weeks so hopefully they havn't dropped. My mum & dad wont let me get her spayed, they keep saying no because its too risky, they said just to get Warren done. Ive told them about the increased risk of cancer in females aswell if they arnt spayed but there sticking by what they've said

 

[Flashy]

I can sympathise with you there because my parents say the same.

Flip your guy over and see if there are two long pink jelly bean things either side of the base of his tail. If there are, then he is descended. There might be only one, because they can descend at different times, but if there is nothing, then you might be ok.

 

[bluebird]

I really doubt if he bred her at the age of eight weeks.I know breeders that start breeding does at 4 months i dont but many dwarfs are full grown at this age.bluebird

 

[Spring]

Oh gosh, this isn't good :?. How big is Warren compared to Bracon at this age?

OH gosh, I am so sorry this happend.

 

[polly]

You need to go back and tell your parents that Bracon is much more at risk if she is not spayed as does have a higher chance of getting cancer. At 8 weeks she should be safe but i will keep my fingers crossed anyway and please tell your mum it literally can take less than a minute for a buck to hit the spot so to speak

 

[AngelnSnuffy]

Oh, I'm so sorry this happened and that your parents don't seem to trust your knowledge, which is very good by the way.

Don't they realize that you have a wealth of information available to you from not only this awesome forum with great, experienced members and mods, but other sites like HRS as well?? Geez, how frustrating this must be for you.

Hopefully, she's not pregnant...

 

[TK Bunnies]

Wow that's horrible!:? Tell your parents that Bracon needs to be spayed because her getting preganent is about as risky as being spayed. Plus it's supose to help them live longer.

Best wishes

-TK

 

[Flashy]

Do you reckon you could show your mum/parents this site, so that they can learn from the articles and people on here?

Sometimes it helps parents/people to see things like this for themselves as opposed to going on something someone says.

 

[jcottonl02]

I agree with everything said here- it is likely that Warren is too young for his testicles to have dropped- and with being such a small bunny that also will help- Pippin is almost 15 weeks and his testicles havn't dropped yet. But he is an iddy biddy teensy bunny.
It seems like your parents have Bracon's best interests and health at heart, but they don't seem to be too well-informed about rabbits. Perhaps try to explain to them that these are your bunnies, and you are their carer and know how to look after them and keep them safe. Tell them you are so pleased they are thinking of Bracon and taking an interest, but in this case you must insist.
You must get Bracon spayed. It is essential. You can't let her run the risk of getting cancer.- (I know you know this, as you've already said lol )
There is, of course, always a risk with operations and being put under anasthetic, but the risk is so small- in comparision to not having her spayed.

Perhaps get a webpage up about spaying and show your parents- perhaps something like this:
http://www.rabbit.org/faq/sections/spay-neuter.html

I don't know your parents- but do you think making them feel guilty might work? Soz random thing but maybe say something about how every single rabbit society will insist on getting a doe spayed, and it makes them live longer- and it would be unkind to Bracon to not get her spayed. Something like that.

I hope everything works out and good luck

 

[Flashy]

jcottonl02 wrote:

Perhaps try to explain to them that these are your bunnies, and you are their carer and know how to look after them and keep them safe.

Thiswould be hard to do unless you are looking after the buns financially, and are prepared to pay for the spay, etc, yourself. Because totally disregarding the opinions and help of someone and then asking them for money for it, seems a tad unfair and disrespectful to me, but that might justbe me.

Hope things are all good your end ~Bracon~

 

[kathy5]

oh such a sad thing to hear

I wish parents would get into learing more about their children's pets

hope there both o.k.

hugs from cocoa far far away

 

[jcottonl02]

What?
I wasn't saying totally disregard the opinions and help of someone and then ask for money.............
You probably didn't mean that to come off as rude but it kinda did.....

All I was saying was try to explain to them that this is the best course of action....
I mean......how is this paragraph:
It seems like your parents have Bracon's best interests and health at heart, but they don't seem to be too well-informed about rabbits. Perhaps try to explain to them that these are your bunnies, and you are their carer and know how to look after them and keep them safe. Tell them you are so pleased they are thinking of Bracon and taking an interest, but in this case you must insist.
....implying anything to do with totally disregarding someone's opinions and help, and then asking them for money.

I'm sorry but i really don't understand how I gave that impression....

I'm really sure you didn't mean to be rude, but reading both mine and your posts again you might see why im a little confused and kind of hurt.

 

[Flashy]

Over text you can not tell the tone of something that has been written. You took it in a rude, or maybe attacking tone, whereas in actual fact I was just stating the truth as I saw it.

I know you never said to disregard them and then ask for money, but I was thinking outside the box. What you said, to me, sounded like a very nice way of saying 'I know best, so we should do what I say', which is fair enough. However, in my eyes, you can't be that cut and dried about things if you are asking those people to pay for the supplies of the animal, for a spay that they are against, and things like that. I get what you are saying at face value about not putting them together and stuff though.

I suggested trying to educate her parents and bring them on here so that they could all make the decisions together based on correct knowledge, which, I guess, is a step on from what you said, so in essence we were not all that different,we just looked at it in different ways.

I'm not sure why you are hurt though. I didn't make a verbal attack on you, or insult you, or anything nasty. I merely said what my opinion on the subject was. I can't do much about it if you took it in a rude tone when it wasn't meant that way, that is just my tone.

But anyway, this is totally irrelevent to both of us really because it's up to ~Bracon~ what she does about it. All we both did was try to help the situation. Let's not make this an argument or anything about us. If you want to say anything else about this, just PM me

Sorry for hijacking the thread.

 

[JadeIcing]

I agree when tslking to parents wording has to be very careful.

 

[jcottonl02]

Yup you definately do.
BTW I didn't know that your parents would be paying for the spay, Bracon- that does change this a bit.
I said that before becuase I thought it was you who were going to be paying- so basically I didn't think your parents would have much of a say in it. What I said doesn't really make sense then when i said talk to your parents....cos Moominmoo's right...you couldn't say that and then expect them to pay lol.
I guess just stick with what other people have said- showing ur parents sites etc. and trying to change their mind.

Is there any way you could pay for it yourself?

Good luck