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HoneyPot wrote:
I guess she just really didn't like Charlie when we got him. The thing is, she loves Cookie... if we go to my parents' house with her, she'll flop out next to Cookie and present to him for grooming and everything... even though they're not bonded... so I guess it really is just depending on who they like.
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Nadia
*Gasp* :shock: She's prejudiced against Lops?
 
Johncdn wrote:
HoneyPot wrote:
 I guess she just really didn't like Charlie when we got him.  The thing is, she loves Cookie... if we go to my parents' house with her, she'll flop out next to Cookie and present to him for grooming and everything... even though they're not bonded... so I guess it really is just depending on who they like.
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Nadia
*Gasp* :shock:  She's prejudiced against Lops?

:laugh:
 
Johncdn wrote:
HoneyPot wrote:
I guess she just really didn't like Charlie when we got him. The thing is, she loves Cookie... if we go to my parents' house with her, she'll flop out next to Cookie and present to him for grooming and everything... even though they're not bonded... so I guess it really is just depending on who they like.
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Nadia
*Gasp* :shock: She's prejudiced against Lops?
LOL! Come to think of it.... it seems that way doesn't it?!
 
LOL - I think she's an earest, cause really... can a mutt be a breedist? She probably has like every breed in her. LOL.

So, Oliver has officially moved to the main floor of the house and out of the basement room. Mainly because we felt bad leaving him down there all the time as he's a people bun and was so happy whenever we went down to spend time with him. So, we built him a NIC and he's in the living room now.

Misty and Charlie have not been down to see him, but as we speak I can hear Misty trying to move the gate blocking the stairs to come down. haha. Usually Misty spends the day with me in the living room, but because he is down here, she is upstairs and not pleased about it.

But, so far so good.

Nad
 
You're doing great, Nadia.I think taking it slow is key.

Misty sounds like Snuggy. The first couple of times we introduced her to new furry friends, she was TERRIBLE, but she was younger then. Now that she's older and has been through twelve (twelve! :shock:)new introductions, she's like, "whatever". She knows I will continue to bring new animals home as time goes by, so she's over it.

She might not like it, but I guess I've worn her down, kind of like my husband! :biggrin2:
 
Today I brought Misty down to play in the living room while Oliver stayed in his cage. At the same time I did that, I had to vacuum, so I flipped it on and went to work while keeping an eye on them.

The vacuum did 2 things.

1) It cleaned up all the bunny poop laying around that Oliver has been leaving as surprises
2) it worked to provide a bit of stress to both Misty and Oliver.

I saw the difference. Misty - since she was a bit nervous was not agressive in the least. She ran around, investigated, and as soon as she showed any kind of agression, I flipped on the vacuum and she hid, had a time out and relaxed.

So after about 1/2 hour of that, Misty is playing very nicely in the living room, and Oliver is chillin in his cage. She sniffs him, he sniffs her, and they're good. No attacking. It's a small miracle really...

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Nadia
 
This is such great news - I can hardly believe it's the same Misty that tried to kill you for smelling of Charlie ;). Oliver sounds as if he's a pretty chilled bunny when it comes to meeting different buns. So far, it sounds as if things couldn't be better :)

Jan
 
HoneyPot wrote:
So after about 1/2 hour of that, Misty is playing very nicely in the living room, and Oliver is chillin in his cage. She sniffs him, he sniffs her, and they're good. No attacking. It's a small miracle really...
Thats wonderful! Maybe car rides would be promising as well when you start bonding again after the neuter. They worked wonders for Basil and Max. It also probably helps that Misty is calming down a little as she matures. That makes a big difference.

And its funny to think of brave Misty being afraid of the vacuum. Its so funny here because Tumnus has always attacked the hand vac (he must think its a little white predator) and as soon as Lucy saw him doing this she started- now both go nuts when I vacuum. lol

Anyway, good luck and keep us posted! :brownbunny:brownbunny:brownbunny:vacuum:
 
HoneyPot wrote:
The vacuum did 2 things.

1) It cleaned up all the bunny poop laying around that Oliver has been leaving as surprises
2) it worked to provide a bit of stress to both Misty and Oliver.

I saw the difference. Misty - since she was a bit nervous was not agressive in the least. She ran around, investigated, and as soon as she showed any kind of agression, I flipped on the vacuum and she hid, had a time out and relaxed.

Nadia
Back before Smokey became the Perfectly Behaved Bunny I used to stop him short when he was acting up by shining a flashlight on the ceiling. It would stop him dead every time.:cool:
 
OH! Good tip John, I am going to try that one too.
 
So.. last night I brought both Misty and Charlie down to hang out in the living room with Oliver (who was still in his cage).

It went better than I could imagine. Those 3 are going to be friends in no time.

Charlie is interested and I think we caught him and Oliver giving each other bunny kisses, or at least they were touching noses through the bars. So those 2 are no worry.

Misty tolerates Oliver, and seems very interested in him, but I can tell she's still a bit nervous and anxious about the whole thing, but she's not being agressive to him. She does try to nip him through the bars every now and then but usually when he goes up to her and sticks his nose through the bars, she runs away.

The real problem I have been having is Misty with Charlie. Prior to this, we only took Misty down alone to see Oliver, and then when she went back ot hanging out with Charlie, she would charge him and nip his fur if he moved too quickly and she could not keep an eye on him.

After last night - and having all 3 down at once, Misty has calmed that behaviour down. We're thinking maybe it was because she would mistake Charlie for Oliver when they were upstairs, and she would charge him thinking he was the new bunny.

So, now we know - when we're bonding, we have to do all 3 at once for Misty to keep them straight and not attack Charlie.

The other thing Misty was doing was anytime charlie went up to Oliver to greet him, she would shove herself between them, under Charlie and make sure they could not get to each other. I think she's jealous.

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Nadia
 
HoneyPot wrote:
The other thing Misty was doing was anytime charlie went up to Oliver to greet him, she would shove herself between them, under Charlie and make sure they could not get to each other. I think she's jealous.

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Nadia
I agree about this. Dallas is the exact same way. I honeslty think he does not like the idea of sharing. Though he comes around it is not easy at first.
 
Well, today Oliver and Charlie were out together on the table. Charlie layed there while Oliver gave him a good grooming, and then proceeded to hump him. Charlie didn't even budge, but I broke that up since Oliver is still recovering from his surgery. Silly bun.

Right now Charlie is laying down DBFed against Oliver's cage... and Oliver is snacking. Misty on the other hand has been put upstairs because she was charging at Charlie and Oliver pretty badly today.

Also, Oliver's new thing is the stairs.I can't let him out of his cage for 2 minutes before he is running up the stairs, and Misty is just waiting at the top behind the gate to growl at him.

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Nadia
 
A couple pictures of the poops together:

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I have more photos in my blog that I just added!
http://www.rabbitsonline.net/view_topic.php?id=14997&forum_id=6&page=4

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Nadia

 
This is so neat. I am definately referring to this thread when I adopt another bun at the shelter....... It's so hard going everyweek and NOT taking someone home!!

P.S. It is so funny I keep reading this and I see Charlie and Oliver and it's cracking me up because my friend's name is Charlie Oliver. Haha I just had to tell you that I dont know why:biggrin2:
 
Well, my guys have taken a turn for the worse.

Current Situation - Oliver is back on the main floor (and is happier than ever). Misty and Charlie have the 2nd floor of the house all to themselves again (and they also could not be happier). I rushed things because of the wedding and because we were having guests. I was way too busy to take the time to work with them properly and there was some regression in their behavior.

The last straw came when Oliver and Charlie had their fight.

Charlie was very very interested in being friends, but this is back when Oliver was JUST neutered and he bit Charlie on the nose and since then, Charlie is NOT having him at all.

So when they accidentally got together and Charlie pretty much kicked Oliver's behind... I decided I needed to take a step back. So they're in different parts of the house again and we're taking a break for a while.

Nadia
 
Alrighty, back to bonding.

All wounds are healed.

Oliver is in the living room, Misty and Charlie are on the 2nd floor of the house. In the evenings I let Misty and Charlie down to the living room to play and so far no issues.

Misty goes up to Oliver and presents, he grooms her, but I find that he nips her a bit. when he does, she flips and tries to bite him, but I think he just doesn't realize he shouldn't nip her.

So that's the way this will go for a while. Charlie and Oliver are the same - they sniff each other out, no one is grooming the other, but no agressiveness.

So... still just a waiting game.

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Nadia
 

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