Manditory spays/neuters in AZ?

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undergunfire

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I may be a tad dumb right now because I am tired from working a rediciulious amount of hours this week so far, but....what is this saying (if someone could break it down for me), lol?




American Kennel Club News Article
Arizona Alert: Mandatory Spay/Neuter Bill Introduced

Date of Article: January 22, 2008

House Bill 2516, which seeks to prohibit persons from owning or
keeping a
dog or cat that is more than six months old if the animal has not
been
spayed or neutered, unless the person has acquired an intact permit
for the
animal, has been introduced. If adopted, this unreasonable and
unenforceable
bill will have a profound negative impact not only upon responsible
dog
breeders in Arizona, but also upon all current and prospective dog
owners.
It is vital that all breeders and concerned dog owners in Arizona
contact
their elected state legislators and voice their strong opposition to
the
bill.

The American Kennel Club opposes the concept of breeding permits,
breeding
bans, or the mandatory spay/neuter of purebred dogs. Instead, we
support
reasonable and enforceable laws that protect the welfare and health
of
purebred dogs and do not restrict the rights of breeders and owners
who take
their responsibilities seriously. Additionally, we strongly support
and
actively promote a wide range of programs to educate the public about
responsible breeding practices and the responsibilities of dog
ownership.

As introduced, HB 2516 will:
a.. Prohibit a person from owning or keeping a dog or cat that is
more
than six months old if the animal has not been spayed or neutered,
unless
the person qualifies for and purchases an intact permit.

b.. Allow the fee for the permit to be set by the county
enforcement agent
or by the local jurisdiction.

c.. Require the fee for the permit to be no more than what
is "reasonably
necessary" to fund the administration of the intact permit program.

d.. Provide that intact permits be issued when one of the following
conditions are met, including:
a.. For those who provide a business license and federal tax
identification number as a dog or cat breeder;
b.. Proof that the dog belongs to a recognized registry and
meets show
or title standards;
c.. Proof that the dog is a working dog for law enforcement, fire
agencies, or private sector working dog organizations;
d.. Proof that the dog is actively used by law enforcement, fire
agencies, or private sector working dog organizations for law
enforcement,
fire service, search and rescue or medical service activities, or is
being
raised or otherwise prepared for any of these purposes;
e.. A letter from a licensed veterinarian stating that due to
age, poor
health, or illness it is unsafe to spay or neuter the animal;
f.. Proof that the dog is used for herding or guarding livestock
on
property designated for ranching;
g.. Proof that the dog or cat is temporarily in the state;
h.. Proof that the dog or cat is being trained or used for any
of the
purposes permitted by the US Animal Welfare Act; or
i.. A written agreement to allow one male dog and one female dog
per
household to produce a single litter of offspring within one year
after
issuance of permit (pursuant to stringent health and care and
conditions
requirements) .
HB 2516 will require breeders to pay an undetermined annual fee for
every
intact dog they possess, and is a blatant attempt at imposing a
significant
financial burden upon responsible dog breeders and owners. We
believe that
any attempt at restricting the rights and liberties of responsible
breeders—especially via mandatory spay/neuter laws—must be
defeated.

As a recently introduced bill, HB 2516 has not been referred to a
committee
within the Arizona House of Representatives. The AKC Canine
Legislation
Department will continue to monitor the consideration of HB 2516 and
will
notify the purebred dog community when the bill is assigned to a
committee.
Contact information for committee members will be provided and
purebred dog
owners should express their concerns with HB 2516 to committee
members.

WHAT YOU CAN DO:

Please contact your State Representative and State Senator and ask
them to
oppose HB 2516. To find out who represents you in the Arizona
Legislature,
please click here.
http://www.akc.org/news/ index.cfm? article_id= 3414
 
I know they were considering a similar bill here in CA. Ours was any dog or cat over 4 months.
Basically, you have to spay/neuter any animal unless you have a permit is what yours is saying.
Ours is any animal unless you have a release from a vet saying they're too old or otherwise unhealthy or if you registered them somehow saying you were showing them or participating in some other activity that would require them to be intact.
http://www.cahealthypets.com/ca-healthy-pets-ab-1634-home.php
There is a lot of opposition to it from breeders, obviously and also from others who thought 4 months was too young to spay/neuter. Of course, a vet could waive this.

 
They have discussed this here as well. I LOVE this idea. You need a permit to have a breeding animal or a letter from a vet stating the animal cannot be neutered due to health reasons!

That would help the overpopulation of animals SO much!

I do see why breeders wouldn't like it. They would also be taxed for their animal sales, and have to purchase a permit.



 
I hate the idea only because I like to hold off on the speutering till the animals are around 6 months to a year old. It's a great concept for lazy people or people who don't care but it gives me less freedom on something I'm going to be doing anyway.
 
This speutering word makes me think of a sprinkler spicket..

I just picture rabbits in doing a 360 rotation spitting out water....


I think I need to go to bed.. all this baby birthin is makin me schleepy...
 
Ah, I get it! I had better alert my friend, who was planning on breeding his two pit bulls (even though I have told him it is not a good idea in the first place).

I wonder what you would get charged for not spaying/neutering or totally ignoring this law and breeding anyway. Can they really stop this?
 
That is another concern, it is hard to enforce.
There are certainly good things about it.
We already have a number of measures in the city of LA in place. For example, all animals that leave the shelter are speutered.
Also, the license fee for an unaltered dog is $100. The license fee for an altered dog is only $15.
Basically, it could be enforced if someone visited your home, or if your animal came into the shelter, just like the way they mandate licensing.
 
I'd love to see how this all works out. It's about time...there are so many dogs in shelters around here. It would be awesome if they could enforce it 100%.

I think they REALLY need to do something about all the "designer dog" breedings, it's just plain rediciulious that random people are breeding their ungregistered yorkies and poodles and calling the puppies a breed...then selling them for hundreds of dollars when they are mutts.

:headsmack
 
I don't have time to read the entire thing right now (at work and have to get back to it) but y'know, overall I love the idea of mandatory spay/neuters. Of course with any law that gets introduced, gray areas have to be checked carefully - so legitimate breeders/businesses don't get hurt .-But this is what has been needed for so long, imo...though I'm not entirely sure how it would be enforced, with so many people getting animals from ads, or friends/neighbors, etc, and then breeding their pets, or letting them roam free and coming back pregnant.

Something needs to be done about the incredibly horrific number of unwanted animals going into shelters annually...and so many never coming out again.
 
undergunfire wrote:
I'd love to see how this all works out. It's about time...there are so many dogs in shelters around here. It would be awesome if they could enforce it 100%.

I think they REALLY need to do something about all the "designer dog" breedings, it's just plain rediciulious that random people are breeding their ungregistered yorkies and poodles and calling the puppies a breed...then selling them for hundreds of dollars when they are mutts.

:headsmack
I agree about the designer dog thing. We were at the pet store in the mall the other day that sells puppies. I never buy anything there, but I like to go in, look at the $50 bunnies and remind my mom, loud enough for others to hear, that the buns at the shelter are the EXACT SAME PRICE but already spayed and neutered, and that buns shouldn't be on pine shavings or in with guinea pigs and certainly not eating the same kind of food as guinea pigs.
Anyway, they had a "pugle" in there that they were selling for $1,000. I was like, no, there is no such thing as a $1,000 mixed-breed puppy, no way, Jose.
 
i totally agree about the designer dogs issue! my uncle's girlfriend wants a freakin labradoodle, and insists they are their own breeds. IT'S NOT A BREED BECAUSE IT HAS A CUTE COMMONLY USED NAME PEOPLE.

UGH.

just my 2 cents as usual....

tracy
 
timetowaste wrote:
i totally agree about the designer dogs issue! my uncle's girlfriend wants a freakin labradoodle, and insists they are their own breeds. IT'S NOT A BREED BECAUSE IT HAS A CUTE COMMONLY USED NAME PEOPLE.

UGH.

just my 2 cents as usual....

tracy
Tell her that you can just tell what kind of mutt it is because of it's name: labradoodle = labrador + poodle try and find an approved show breed that you can distinguish what other breeds they were 'created' with by the name. She's just as well off grabbing the next homeless dog she sees and calling it a shitzuddle or something. REEEE-DICULOUS!
 
i'm all for altering at 6 months of age.. i really don't like a Pediatric alters(ie 8, 9, 10 weeks old etc) and quite a few shelters do do the Pediatric spays and neuters. I understand why they do them, because they can't garrenty that people will follow through with spaying and neutering, but i just think they are to young.

one my dogs was an 8 week old spay, i got her at 1 year old after going through 6 different homes, she has some incontinence issues do to a hormone issue.. maybe she would have had that anyways, but I do wonder if being spayed at a very young age adds to that problem
 
These laws hurt Responsible Breeders who don't overbreed their animals, breeding each one only ever other year at the most after completing genetic testing to remove those that would pass on defects from their breeding program. With the very small profit, if any they make from a litter, paying the fees required by the city/state are prohibitive. In many cases there are so many additional requirements it makes it impossible for them to produce healthy purebred animals.

This leaves us with the puppymills, which breed an animal to death. They will be the only ones left producing.

At first thought it may sound good with all the animals in shelters and those being destroyed. But what happens if we stop any more dogs, cats or rabbits from being born. Soon there will be none.:(

We need to stop irresponsible breeding and mill breeders, not make it so difficult there is no more breeding.

 

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