peanutdabunny
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Rabbits do better in coolar temps, so if you can make it nice down there then the rabbits would love it
Hi! Future bunny mom-have some questions!
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John Wick
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Keep in mind that rabbits aren't necessarily pets that can have playdates with each other, especially if a rabbit is being brought into another's territory. There is likely to be aggression and fighting, rather than positive interaction. This is also why you cannot just get two rabbits and keep them together right away-- bonding steps are required to ensure safety and the highest likelihood of success.
Uhm, not really, going to visit other rabbits usually doesn't work that way. Rabbits are more like cats in that regard, not like dogs. Actually they live in small groups with a strict hierachy, establishing that peacefully is what a big part of bonding is all about.
I don't think putting a rabbit in the basement, out of sight, out of mind, is what having an indoor pet about. Rooms that are comfortable for humans are ok for rabbits.
peanutdabunny
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Oh, people dont go in their basment offten? I do all the time, its sooooo much coolar and nicer down there
peanutdabunny
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Honestly, I would wait longer before you get a rabbit, so you can have everything ready, not just getting a bun because you want to, because it will also be the best for the bunny. As it seems right now, you seem like you can't commit to a 10 year commitment. I would save up more money before you get a rabbit too
BunbunBannana
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I'm waiting a few months, to research and order everything
BunbunBannana
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Would my 30 square feet pen work for 2 with 1-4 h of free roam daily for the first 6 months
peanutdabunny
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eehhh not IMO, a little small for exerice area + home base
30 square feet might work if your rabbits will get AT LEAST 6 hours of playtime outside their pen.
It WILL NOT be okay if it is any less time than that. If you have a smaller space than reccommended then you need to compensate by giving extra playtime.
What is up with the whole carpet thing though? I have carpet in Storm's enclosure, and around the rooms, he's doing marvellous with it. No pees, no chew holes, nothing. Despite the fact that he is a digger more than not. Could you just not remove the carpet all together, or cover it up with okay to chew placemats/rugs?
Again, why it is a good idea to get a fixed bonded shelter pair. People there generally know the rabbits and can help you pick a pair that isn't interested in carpets. Them being fixed also means a decrease in wanting to wreck something.
It WILL NOT be okay if it is any less time than that. If you have a smaller space than reccommended then you need to compensate by giving extra playtime.
What is up with the whole carpet thing though? I have carpet in Storm's enclosure, and around the rooms, he's doing marvellous with it. No pees, no chew holes, nothing. Despite the fact that he is a digger more than not. Could you just not remove the carpet all together, or cover it up with okay to chew placemats/rugs?
Again, why it is a good idea to get a fixed bonded shelter pair. People there generally know the rabbits and can help you pick a pair that isn't interested in carpets. Them being fixed also means a decrease in wanting to wreck something.
Why can you not freeroam your rabbits in your room in the first place?
Storm's setup is about 4*1m pen made from two fence panels and some flat latchers, and a spare piece of grid for a 80*90cm door. It is technically STILL a bit under the reccommended 3*2m. He has carpet there, and a no-carpet area. His door is ALWAYS left open, even at night. He sleeps under my bunks, the desk, in between the wall and the cabinet. He moves onto my bunk's lower floor. He can also go anywhere else in the house's main floor. At night my door is closed, so he has about 4*3m space. The worst he does is zooming at 3am, totally natural.
I have taken away all loose wires onto my desk, gridded up loose wallpaper. All his stuff is on a wall shelf and i keep my floor clean for him. I have no indoor plants. Absolutely no problem.
Why can't you do that?
Storm's setup is about 4*1m pen made from two fence panels and some flat latchers, and a spare piece of grid for a 80*90cm door. It is technically STILL a bit under the reccommended 3*2m. He has carpet there, and a no-carpet area. His door is ALWAYS left open, even at night. He sleeps under my bunks, the desk, in between the wall and the cabinet. He moves onto my bunk's lower floor. He can also go anywhere else in the house's main floor. At night my door is closed, so he has about 4*3m space. The worst he does is zooming at 3am, totally natural.
I have taken away all loose wires onto my desk, gridded up loose wallpaper. All his stuff is on a wall shelf and i keep my floor clean for him. I have no indoor plants. Absolutely no problem.
Why can't you do that?
peanutdabunny
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Okay @BunbunBannana
Tell us the reason you are getting a bunny
Restate what you are getting for your bunny
A picture of where your bun would stay
The temperature of your room(where the bun is staying)?
The hay you will be using?
The Pellets you will be using (and the ones you will be using as an adult bun)
What is your plan for the next 10 years? Are you going to move? Are you going to go to college? Are you going to have kids?
Will you be able to provide toys every month?
Will you be able to afford expensive emergency vet visits?
Do you have a rabbit-savvy vet near you?
Will you be able to love the bunny even if it might not love you?
Will you be able to deal with a hormonal bunny? (they nip, they will be aggressive to some extent, they will spray pee everywhere, they will have stinky poops everywhere, and they won't be the nice baby bunny you once had)
Are you going to be able to provide unlimited hay every day? My bunny eats 2 1/2 his body size every day!
Will you be giving free-roaming time at the right times of the day? (dawn and dusk)
You need to consider all of this, when getting from a breeder, you never know if your bunny will end up nice, even if the bunny is nice as a baby, it won't be the same bunny as an adult. Your bunny can be a destructive bunny, an anti-social bunny, a bunny who won't sit on your lap, a bunny who HATES to be held, a bunny who gets scared when you walk by them, a bunny who has a ton of health conditions. Not every bunny is the bunny you see in pictures or youtube videos, that is just the bunny at its best moment. I am guilty of this too, only posting the good on my Peanuts account, and not the bad. It makes bunnies look more like dogs than bunnies. And be prepared for having the feeling of wanting to give away your bunny right after you get them, as you realize it's more work than you expected, or they aren't acting the same as you thought they would. You need to push through that, and you will be good. It is a common feeling, and I know and have heard of people who have the same feeling.
I am playing devil's advocate, as it seems you think bunnies are super cuddly and truly they aren't. Only really on their own terms will they sit on your lap, and most of the time it's for a treat
Tell us the reason you are getting a bunny
Restate what you are getting for your bunny
A picture of where your bun would stay
The temperature of your room(where the bun is staying)?
The hay you will be using?
The Pellets you will be using (and the ones you will be using as an adult bun)
What is your plan for the next 10 years? Are you going to move? Are you going to go to college? Are you going to have kids?
Will you be able to provide toys every month?
Will you be able to afford expensive emergency vet visits?
Do you have a rabbit-savvy vet near you?
Will you be able to love the bunny even if it might not love you?
Will you be able to deal with a hormonal bunny? (they nip, they will be aggressive to some extent, they will spray pee everywhere, they will have stinky poops everywhere, and they won't be the nice baby bunny you once had)
Are you going to be able to provide unlimited hay every day? My bunny eats 2 1/2 his body size every day!
Will you be giving free-roaming time at the right times of the day? (dawn and dusk)
You need to consider all of this, when getting from a breeder, you never know if your bunny will end up nice, even if the bunny is nice as a baby, it won't be the same bunny as an adult. Your bunny can be a destructive bunny, an anti-social bunny, a bunny who won't sit on your lap, a bunny who HATES to be held, a bunny who gets scared when you walk by them, a bunny who has a ton of health conditions. Not every bunny is the bunny you see in pictures or youtube videos, that is just the bunny at its best moment. I am guilty of this too, only posting the good on my Peanuts account, and not the bad. It makes bunnies look more like dogs than bunnies. And be prepared for having the feeling of wanting to give away your bunny right after you get them, as you realize it's more work than you expected, or they aren't acting the same as you thought they would. You need to push through that, and you will be good. It is a common feeling, and I know and have heard of people who have the same feeling.
I am playing devil's advocate, as it seems you think bunnies are super cuddly and truly they aren't. Only really on their own terms will they sit on your lap, and most of the time it's for a treat
BunbunBannana
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Ok, I can let the rabbits (two) free roam in my 120 square feet room during the day, and in the cage at night.
BunbunBannana
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I am getting a bunny bc after owning rats for 4 years, and my rats passed away, I wanted to try a new animal (I'm training for a vet)Okay @BunbunBannana
Tell us the reason you are getting a bunny
Restate what you are getting for your bunny
A picture of where your bun would stay
The temperature of your room(where the bun is staying)?
The hay you will be using?
The Pellets you will be using (and the ones you will be using as an adult bun)
What is your plan for the next 10 years? Are you going to move? Are you going to go to college? Are you going to have kids?
Will you be able to provide toys every month?
Will you be able to afford expensive emergency vet visits?
Do you have a rabbit-savvy vet near you?
Will you be able to love the bunny even if it might not love you?
Will you be able to deal with a hormonal bunny? (they nip, they will be aggressive to some extent, they will spray pee everywhere, they will have stinky poops everywhere, and they won't be the nice baby bunny you once had)
Are you going to be able to provide unlimited hay every day? My bunny eats 2 1/2 his body size every day!
Will you be giving free-roaming time at the right times of the day? (dawn and dusk)
You need to consider all of this, when getting from a breeder, you never know if your bunny will end up nice, even if the bunny is nice as a baby, it won't be the same bunny as an adult. Your bunny can be a destructive bunny, an anti-social bunny, a bunny who won't sit on your lap, a bunny who HATES to be held, a bunny who gets scared when you walk by them, a bunny who has a ton of health conditions. Not every bunny is the bunny you see in pictures or youtube videos, that is just the bunny at its best moment. I am guilty of this too, only posting the good on my Peanuts account, and not the bad. It makes bunnies look more like dogs than bunnies. And be prepared for having the feeling of wanting to give away your bunny right after you get them, as you realize it's more work than you expected, or they aren't acting the same as you thought they would. You need to push through that, and you will be good. It is a common feeling, and I know and have heard of people who have the same feeling.
I am playing devil's advocate, as it seems you think bunnies are super cuddly and truly they aren't. Only really on their own terms will they sit on your lap, and most of the time it's for a treat
I am getting
Cage-$51
Food-$15
Brush-$20
Hay from Pet store
Ball set $14
Foraging mat $20
Rabbit treat toy for fun food $8
Rabbit treats $10
Hay hide $14
Tunnel $20
Climbing tree $35
and food and water bowl
I have already got
plus I have already got a litter box, poop scoop, nail clippers, measuring cups, pee pads (to align the litter box)
the temp will be MIN 60 MAX 77 (and I have a fan I can put in)
Freshest hay the pet shop has (if it looks bad, ill get it from elsewhere), plus some backyard hay as a treat.
here is a pic of the room, I plan on creating a loft bed, so the cage will be where the bed used to be (that whole space) and I will bunny proof the wires.
The pellets are science selective, and when the rabbit gets bigger small pet select
I don't plan on moving in the next 10 years, no, and no plans like that
I will def be able to provide toys, firstly I love D.I.Ying them, second I have a habit of buying way too many toys for my pets.
I can afford vet visits, I have 500 served up from my rat's vet fund
I have 5 different vet clinics that specialize in buns.
I will be able to love the bunny no matter what, my first pair of rats were rescued from abuse and they hated me. I let them play and loved them SO much anyway. Didn't force them to be with me
Yes, I can deal with a hormonal bunny, as my abused rats bit, peed, and one of my sweet rats had a hormonal problem.
I don't have a problem providing hay, I have a pet shop I can bike to in 2 mins!
Will you be giving free-roaming time at the right times of the day. They will free roam all day, and stay in the cage at night.
Hope that covered it!
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BinkyLouie
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Hi, kaytee hay ISNT all that bad. Actually if you get the wafer cut Timothy hay from kaytee it comes with layers of strands. I’ve had a good experience so far buying that specific hay from and I apologize if it’s different for you. Let me snap a pic for you! Also I bought my bun two bags of this and I still haven’t finished one. I’ve had one bag for about 1-3 weeks. It’s a good money saver. About small pet select.. the hay is good it’s excellent but it’s kind of pricy. Mostly everything is there so I decided to just buy that hay I just showed you.
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BinkyLouie
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I’m just gonna give you a brief explanation and I know you’re new to having a bunny and you know what I am too but I’m learning still. Basically, if you want your bunny to be happy you need to let it free roam. My bunny has free roamed since he was small. He did spend a few hours in his cage but not too long. I wanted him to have a better life than my other bun did and he does. I just give him all the space he wants he has a big living room and although he wants to explore other rooms and does manage to escape to them I always bring him back because there are dangerous things he could encounter. He’s litter trained, he has a feeding schedule, he’s loved and he gets treats. It’s super simple for a bun bun to be happy you just need to give him what he wants. A happy bunny will need a good diet, affection and their space. I know because this is what my bun bun has. I’m not sure about the cage situation because mine only has a cage for the night. From 8:30 to 10PM hes inside all day. I can’t give you information on anything else but I’ve heard that from 2 months to 7 months rabbits should be fed alfalfa pellets and then after those 7 months they should be fed Timothy pellets. Another thing is that rabbits don’t need alfalfa hay when they’re small but you can provide it. I only fed unlimited alfalfa pellets and unlimited Timothy hay since he was small and he’s great. He doesn’t get that anymore obviously. He gets 1/4 cup of pellets now and I’ll be switching soon and still unlimited hay.
PS. MAKE SURE YOU BUNNY PROOF TO AVOID HAZARDS!
A lot of that discussion about how much space or whatnot a rabbit needs is not so much about rabbits, but about what people would like to see if they had a say. That's fine as long as this is the bases for what they themself do (which isn't always the case, but what they would like to do), or suggestions about what other people with the same attitude towards pets are happy with, but get's problematic when it's all about telling other people what to do based on opinion and preferences, not so much facts.
There are quite some different ways to keep and feed rabbits that are imo ok, it's not rocket science, everyone needs to find his own working compromise - I sometimes get the feeling that there is quite an inflation of demands getting flaunted around.
Anyway, since you said that you've friends with rabbits I would think it would be a good idea to spend some thime there, just to help getting an idea about what you want, and how rabbits work as pets. Only knew one rat briefly, and that was a little different, liked being toted around in my friends hoody and so.
There are quite some different ways to keep and feed rabbits that are imo ok, it's not rocket science, everyone needs to find his own working compromise - I sometimes get the feeling that there is quite an inflation of demands getting flaunted around.
Anyway, since you said that you've friends with rabbits I would think it would be a good idea to spend some thime there, just to help getting an idea about what you want, and how rabbits work as pets. Only knew one rat briefly, and that was a little different, liked being toted around in my friends hoody and so.
peanutdabunny
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Here what I recommend doing
1. Dont get Kaytee hay
2. don't get small pet select food, they have soy and grains which slow down the urinary and GI tract, which can cause problems later in life. Like stasis and sluge
3. if you get a loft bed. watch stormy rabbits on youtube and build a cage-like theirs.
1. Dont get Kaytee hay
2. don't get small pet select food, they have soy and grains which slow down the urinary and GI tract, which can cause problems later in life. Like stasis and sluge
3. if you get a loft bed. watch stormy rabbits on youtube and build a cage-like theirs.
BunbunBannana
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Thank you! I plan on letting the bunny roam around my room all day, and have them inside their cage at night.
BinkyLouie
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I hope you figure it out. Since everyone is telling you different things I could understand how it can be hard for you. Get what you can it doesn’t have to be PERFECT. You wouldn’t want to be stressed out about this. If I were you I would watch a rabbit YouTube channel. I watch Lennon the bunny and shes a great YouTube channel. I know someone said something about her earlier but IMO SHES not bad news. You can get a harness if you want to it’s not bad. I have a yard and I bought my rabbit one because he would want to go outside(I don’t use it anymore because it was for when he was small but I’m probably gonna buy him another one when he grows bigger). Having a bunny doesn’t take a lot of time. If you have them in a cage obviously you won’t have to watch them much just make sure your bun knows who you are and you interact with her so she doesn’t feel lonely. I’m with my bun 24/7 so it’s different. Goodluck and I hope your bun bun starts using his potty!
1. Why?
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