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Bandit

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:( Hi everyone, I'm new here and I wondered if anyone could help with my bunnies problem? My eldest, Bugs has lost two back teeth on one side and another is loose he has an eye infection at the moment and yesterday I took him to the vet and he said his teeth were too long and the roots were pushing up into his tear ducts blocking them, he has given us some eye cream and said if it goes away in 10 to 14 days all well and good but it will probably happen again so he suggested having Bugs put under anasthetic and cut his teeth back, I have spoken to a friend who runs a bunny rescue organisation and is quite knowledgable about bunnies and she said the vet should pull the teeth out and that Bugs will adapt to eating with the other side. This would save him from having his teeth regularly cut back therefore not risking the anasthetic so often, he is 7yrs and overweight and I worry about him not coming out of it. Has anyone got any suggestions as to what course of action I should take. Thanks so much for any help, Bandit.
 
Here are all sorts of articles and posts on dental issues...

Teeth

I'd pay particular attention to this one by Susan Brown:

Rabbit Dental Disease
http://www.veterinarypartner.com/Content.plx?P=A&A=472&S=5&SourceID=43


She does suggest removal is often a more humane option.

Did your vet do a full set of head xrays? Rabbit dental technology can be a little more specialized, not all vets have a great grasp on it.

Welcome to the forum, btw. :)

sas


 
:)Hi, thanks for the info, I'm sure it will help, the vet didn't do xrays, actually we didn't like him very much so I'm currently looking for a vet who is more bunny savvy and loves to work with them. I agree, it seems more humane to pull them out and not have ongoing problems with them. Thanks again I will take a look at her site, and thanks for the welcome. All the best, Bandit.
 
Bandit wrote:
:)Hi, thanks for the info, I'm sure it will help, the vet didn't do xrays...
I would think that without head xrays, it's only a guess that it's a simple tooth root issue.

If there's an abscess or infection anywhere, I wouldn't feel comfortable waiting 14 days. I'd definitely find another vet! We have a few members in Adelaide (including an MIA Mod! Cheryl, where are you!). Hopefully somebody can recommend one.

Keep us posted!



sas :)
 
:)Hi Pipp,

thanks for responding to my dilemma, I am actively looking for a good bunny friendly vet and I am certainly not waiting for 14 days..If Cheryl can point me to a good bunny vet in Adelaide that would be great. I am currently looking into a female vet in the Southern Animal Hospital at Morphett Vale. I will definately get xrays done asap.

Thanks again, Take Care from Bandit.
 
Hi,

I deal with this quite a bit. A high quality skull rad...maybe a MRI....should be part of this diagnosis. While it is possible for an upper root to invade the "sinus" (rabbits don't really have a sinus but it helps me and others understand the area if we use a familiar term), it is much more likely that an overgrown molar from the lower arcade is the invading member. A rad will possibly show an impaction of molar roots. It is common in older rabbits as their teeth start to loosen up a bit...which is an advantage when extracting them.

I personally feel that a little more aggressive treatment...especially looking for and treating any possible infection....would be in order I would also suspect that at least a moderate level analgesic would be proper since these conditions are painful. A modified husbandry protocol including feeding of softer food (pellet slurry or greens) and possibly fluid therapy would also help. A culture should be performed to see exactly what pathogen is causing the infection. I would hope the vet would suggest this. We are seeing an increasing number of bacteria here in the US...particularly pasteurella and pseudomonas...that are becoming resistant to some of the commonly used antibiotics. Some of the old school vets still believe in "shotgunning"...which is to give a particular antibiotic without complete diagnosis (a guess). This leads to bacteria that is much more difficult to control. Another reason to properly and quickly diagnose and treat this condition is the possibility of developing a head/jaw abscess which brings on an entirely new world of problems.

I also share your concern regarding the prognosis of surgery. In the hands of a skilled rabbit vet, anesthesia concerns are not as high as they were only a couple of years ago. We routinely use injectable anesthesia now with exellent results since the sedation injection can be reversed by another injection. There is also a newer gas called Sevoflourane that is awesome. It is great with a very quick rebound after recovery. Based on the info provided, I think the risks are outweighed by the overall health benefit of getting a chronic problem corrected.

I would also suggest reviewing this rabbit's husbandry protocols. Maybe get that weight down. An overweight bunny is subject to all sorts of health issues. And bringing weight off a plump rabbit brings it's own challenges due to the way the rabbit's liver metabolizes fat.

We have had numerous dental extraction performed. Short term, it is a difficult surgery. I would count on about 3 days of intensive treatment to get the rabbit thru after surgery. Long term, it is the best thing we did for our buns with dental issues. They are healthier as they eat better. And they don't encounter the pain and stress of repeated clippings/trimmings.

Randy
 
Bandit, that neon blue font is very difficult for some of us to read. Black or navy is much easier on the eyes ;)



Pam
 
:)Hi Randy,

Thanks for all the information, are you a vet? You are very knowledgable with procedures and medications, I really appreciate your help, I feel terrible thinking he is in pain and will act on this information immediately.

Thanks again and take care, Bandit.
 
:)HI Pam,

Sorry about that I have changed to Navy is this better? I just love colour. How many bunnies do you have, what are the names and ages? I wish I could put pictures of mine on here but I have to wait til I get my scanner back from repairs. Look forward to hearing more about you and your little one/s.

All the best Bandit.
 
Hi Bandit,

Unfortunately I am not a vet. Not smart enough to do that. Vets are incredible people. I do rescue and treat "special needs" animals of many species...including wildlife. I have been fortunate in having doctors that are true professors at vet schools. They saw my interest in learning so it has turned into a mutually beneficial relationship. I get to learn from them...and I take their needy animals.

Many animals, rabbits especially, are very good at hiding pain. They will hide it until they just can't take it anymore. In many cases, the relief of the pain can make recovery much quicker and easier. We are quick to fire pain meds around here. Our experience shows it to be well worth it.

Randy
 
:)Hi Randy,

Thats great, helping animals like that! I wish more people would care for animals. I will ask the vet to give Bugs something for pain too.

Thanks heaps, Bandit.
 

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