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Julie_in_PA

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I will hopefully soon be getting a bunny or two. I want to know if my bunnies will get along together if they're in the same pen ?



I have a lop rabbit right now that I'm trying to sell. I purchased a rabbit hutch, and the lop rabbit "came with the hutch" basically. But it's not the breed that I want, plus it's not as tame as I want. I want to raise a rabbit or two from baby up. Play and hold them alot, and get them as tame as I possibly can. This bunny that came with the hutch isn't nearly as tame as what I want. I can barely pet it without it running around the hutch away from me.

Anyway, I'd like to get two baby bunnies. If I raise them together from baby up - will they get along ? Or will they fight ??
 
Whoa, lot of info here!:) First off, welcome to the forum!:D

Secondly, you can get baby buns to get along, but you will encounter the same things as if they were not related when they hit the hormonal times. Until they are fixed, not much you can do until they are bonded, which can take months. So, basically, you will need to bond them after they are altered.

If a bun has been in a shelter per say, and have been moved around, they can't trust anyone. If their surroundings keep changing, and buns hate change, they won't adapt well:?.

Also, if you have a bun now that is not socialized, it can take time, but it can happen. A bun that has been in a certain situaltion for some time will take time to socailize, it's worth the effort in the long run!;) Just because a bun runs from you doesn't mean it's mean, just not socialized. Buns are social animals and can and will take to people on their own terms. Give it a chance, it may be just the best pet you ever had!:)

 
Hey Julie in PA - Julie in CA here and take the necessary precations of introducing buns together. . You can't just "put them in a pen as they are small" and think they will get along; one of the non--profit pet stores I work with has taken in buns that were injured for this same reason - they were babies and tossed into a pen together and they fought and 2 died..

Be smarter than the animal and realize they don't know each other and are scared; keep them in separate cages and introduce them gradually with you there watching them 24/7 for sometime until you can feel secure that they aren't going to harm each other..

Look throught the library section of this site for "introducing/bonding buns" tutorrial. It will save you alot of grief and Vet bills.
 
you have a bunny now that is not tame and you wish to sell her/him for 2 babies that will be tamer and more loveable.

Before you do anything you need to learn a lot about rabbits.
2 baby rabbits will most likely get along for a few months before they will begin to fight with each other. it's then time to get them spayed/neutered, separate them post surgery and go through the process of bonding them.2 rabbits in the same cage will not naturally get along.

If you are giving up on your present rabbit's personality there is absolutely no guarantee that the 2 babies will be any different.
It is more natural for any rabbit to run away from you than to be held and cuddled. You need to have a patient temperament in order to gain the trust of your rabbit. You need to spend a lot of quiet time with your rabbit allowing him to approach you.
I suggest that you get some books and articles and start to look at the world through a bunny's eyes. A rabbit is a prey aniaml . Instinct will make a rabbit flee in order to survive. Even domesticated rabbits retain these characteristics.
If you don't want to work with your present rabbit (Probably going through adolescence.) maybe you should consider another type of animal as a pet.

Most rabbits (other than stuffed animals ) do not like to be held and hugged.
 
Here's a link to our Library on Bonding Bunnies;):

http://www.rabbitsonline.net/view_topic.php?id=12072&forum_id=17


Hopefully, it will help you a bit, I totally understand how you're confused. I was too, which is why I took it upon myself to read up on bunnies! It helped tremendously!:) So, if you're serious about being a bun mom, read up, talk to us and have fun!:D


 
Thanks for all the advice.

I am not just giving up on a bunny. This rabbit was a little girl's rabbit, and she fooled with it for a few weeks, then never touched it after that. For years (from my understanding of what her parents told me). So it's just been a cage rabbit for such a long time now, and doesn't know what love and attention is anymore. So it's not used to being touched at all ... ever.

I am a very patient person actually. If you would know me, you would realize this. And I'm an animal lover and have been all of my life. I've ALWAYS had animals of all kinds. I've nursed many orphaned or abandoned animals back to health, and have been there for many of stray dogs and/or cats that were dropped off - and took them in and cared for them. Many of them were pregnant, so then I also took on the role of being "nanny" as well. I've had LOTS of rabbits growing up. I haven't had any since I was married, so that's been a while (over 8 years). I used to have a rabbit that was a big brown rabbit (not sure what breed it was) that I could pick up and hold like a baby and rub it's belly, etc. I was the only one that played with that bunny, and I was only about 7 years old. So yes, I do have patience, and understanding, and lots of love. I have tamed and worked with many animals.

Currently I have my own farm with goats, a pony, dogs, cats & chickens. People call my farm "Julies funny farm" cause I love animals so much and talk about them so much. And some people refer to me as "Vet Julie" because by gollie I sure will try to help any animal in need. Plus I know a thing or two about vet related / medical issues.

I'm not a bad bunny mom for wanting to sell this lop to a good home. I only have one hutch, and the lop is in it. And I've always really REALLY been interested in the Flemish Giants, then this past year finally was narrowing down what breed I really want, and decided on the Flemish Giant. Then I purchased this hutch, and the people sent this lop rabbit along with the hutch. So now I can either put my flemish giant in with this lop (which I don't want to do because I'm afraid the lop would kill it). Or not get my flemish giant that I've been wanting. I've had plans on getting a flemish giant for MONTHS now. Long before this hutch ever came along with the lop rabbit.

I do fool with the lop alot. I pet it and talk to it every time I'm near it - which is often. I know it would take time, and that I could probably get it to "come around" ... but I would simply prefer to find it a good home so I can get my flemish giant bunny. To start off with I'm only getting one. Then I want my husband to build me another nice hutch, and I would like to get one or two more. Eventually I'd like to be able to put them together to play and such, but seeing that this will take time, I realize I will need another hutch. So for now I'll just be getting one bunny. And so I'm trying to find a good home for the lop so that I can get my flemish baby bunny. I've been in contact with a local flemish breeder for months now. Finally I will be getting my lil bunny.

So as you can see, I'm not impatient or misunderstanding of this lop. But I've been waiting and anticipating and even arranging for a flemish. And I didn't ask for this lop ... I didn't even know that I was getting it until the people delivered the hutch to my house. And then finding out that was the condition - if I buy the hutch, the rabbit goes with it. So I didn't buy the lop and then change my mind. It just happened into my life, and I wasn't ready for this lop, I've been preparing for my flemish baby. I even went out and bought all kinds of rabbit accessories in anticipation of getting my flemish baby.

I'm giving the lop a great home for now, but I still want to find a great home for it with someone else.

So anyway, this is my situation, and my plans.
 
Hi

I would recommend that you write" lop to be rehomed " in the rescue section of the forum. There may be someone near you that is on this forum who would like to take the lop. There are a lot of wonderful people on the forum and the chances of getting him a good home is greater here than in the general public.
I hope you find a flemish that you are happy with. My friend has one and he is a wonderful big guy.:)
 
Lots of advice given so I'll skip my primary thoughts...

How big is the hutch?

I have a 25# Flemish and a slightly overweight (I guess) 19# New Zealand White.

They pretty much free roam and have the back deck. I do have a dog pen for them in my garage (I think it's a 6' x 8' but may be the 8'x10') and a "holding" hutch for them for when I'm cleaning out the garage...

Honestly, I'm having a hard time picturing two flemmies sharing a hutch sized for a lop.

Are you prepared for mass of a Flemish?

Honestly, I wasn't when I brought Aiden home.


eta:

I think space is a huge issue when it comes to rabbits getting along, though there are other very important factors.

Do all rabbits get along? No.

Here's my newest guy - who my vet thinks was attacked by cage mates:

http://rabbitsonline.net/view_topic.php?id=39376&forum_id=16
 
Hi there!

I just wanted to mention something really quickly-just because you get a baby as a bunny and play with it a lot doesnt mean it will be any more social than the lop you have now. Theres no guarantee a rabbit will turn out friendly if you get it when its a baby- their personalities change so much when they hit puberty.

Is the lop neutered? If not, neutering him may help.

If you really want a snuggle bunny I would contact local rescues and see if they will let you do a swap. We do this at Midwest Rabbit Rescue if someone has a bun that doesnt fit well with their family- we will let them bring that bunny in and meet others to choose one that fits better with their lifestyle. A neutered/spayed adult is the way to go.
 
My heart bleeds for the lop. Sounds like the lop is doing what any rabbit in a cage might do -- the lop is being overly territorial about it. I would love to see what would happen with this lop's personality if you would bring the hutch in, leave the door open in a well-traveled part of the house, and let her feel more a part of the family. I wonder if you wouldn't benefit from reading this wonderful article on bunny language:

http://language.rabbitspeak.com/rabbittalk.html

I feel that you probably would do well to continue educating yourself about rabbits before starting in with a baby Flemish. I say this as someone who had a multiple-rabbit household long before getting into Flemish Giants. Remember, a lot of the kit's basic orientation toward socializing with humans is settled long before you get the rabbit from the breeder. You should first work on selecting a breeder and learn from them how much they are handling the rabbit during the 10 weeks before you get them. Is the breeder holding each rabbit in the litter each day to ensure that the kits are optimally exposed to humans? A good place to find a breeder for Flemish Giants is on the website for the National Federation of Flemish Giant Rabbit Breeders. Most breeders that I have ever met, and I am admittedly new to the breeding and show side of things, do not breed for pet quality animals. They breed for show quality. Probably what they will offer you is a rabbit that they don't think will fare particularly well on the show tables. Not all rabbits who aren't show quality necessarily have the personality traits to be good pet bunnies. If you do get to know your breeder in advance, you may be able to visit the litter several times before the kits are weaned so that you too get a sense of the beahvior of specific kits.

The advice about spaying and neutering above is right on. Rabbits can become more accustomed to each other more readily when they don't have the distractions of high-raging hormones. I did not appreciate this enough but learned the hard way. I brought Maddie home as a rescue -- she wasn't yet spayed and was just about 1 year old. I didn't watch her closely enough while introducing her to Dorcas and Jemimah. She and Dorcas got into a fight that I didn't break up in time. Maddie bit the tip of Dorcas' nose off. This greatly hurt Dorcas and I wasn't very happy about the vet bill I needed to pay for Dorcas' "nose job". Once Maddie was spayed, there was no problem in her getting along with Dorcas and Jemimah.

Now, Dorcas and Jemimah were littermates, and there's some interesting lessons there. I had them spayed as soon as I got them because I had a non-neutered male at home already. Dorcas and Jemimah got along with the buck from the moment they met him. The problem was that long after they had been spayed, Jemimah, who had previously been smaller than Dorcas, grew up to be quite a bit larger than Dorcas. The tables had in their minds to be turned. Although they had gotten along fine for months, one day I heard loud screeching and thumping from the living room over my head. Dorcas and Jemimah were charging each other, meeting in the middle of the room, holding onto each other with their front paws and trying to eviscerate each other with the back paws. Each came away from the encounter with a little wound. I had to keep them separated for a couple of weeks and then reintroduce them. For years after that, they got along just fine. . .

Then, when they were six, we got our second Flemish Giant buck (the first one died an untimely death from a surgery for a broken leg gone wrong). Suddenly, Jemimah and Maddie started picking on Dorcas, who is the smallest of the rabbits. They routinely chased her around the rabbit room, pulling tufts of hair out of her bottom and actually biting her sometimes. This all seemed to be in response to the introduction of a new rabbit into the mix. I removed Dorcas from the group and several times have tried reintroducing her, but her littermate sister Jemimah is the one who immediately attacks her on first sight. Dorcas has become an "only" bunny in a different location in the house.

Anyway, this is quite a long entry I realize. I apologize for being so long in words, but based on experience, I think the strategy of getting littermates and raising them together does not necessarily mean they will get along together. Rabbit social dynamics can be very complex.
 

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