Elahenajafi
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Broken Jaw ~New member
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Moonshadow
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Pooping is definitely a good sign even if he isn’t doing a lot! As long as you’re being extremely gentle and he’s eating the food off your finger, at least thats way for you to get food into him, though if you can manage to use the syringe that would be even better.
If you do use the syringe make sure to give him only about one milliliter at a time so you aren’t filling his mouth too much before he swallows.
The pellets you have seem fine from what I can tell. Maybe you can moisten them and crush them into a watery paste that he will hopefully eat.
Do you think you can get pain medication from the vet? Pain is the most likely reason he isn’t trying to eat himself.
It also wouldn’t hurt to see if the vet can prescribe antibiotics in case of infection.
If you do use the syringe make sure to give him only about one milliliter at a time so you aren’t filling his mouth too much before he swallows.
The pellets you have seem fine from what I can tell. Maybe you can moisten them and crush them into a watery paste that he will hopefully eat.
Do you think you can get pain medication from the vet? Pain is the most likely reason he isn’t trying to eat himself.
It also wouldn’t hurt to see if the vet can prescribe antibiotics in case of infection.
Elahenajafi
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I talked to another doctor today and she told me to buy this medicine (feminine)
Gabapentin 100 capsules
Gabapentin 100 capsules
Moonshadow
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Gabapentin does work as a pain med but just be aware may make your bunny seem very tired and listless. When my bunny was on it he pretty much sat in the same place unless we physically moved him or it was close to wearing off. He seemed to have no energy while on it so we just decided to go with the meloxicam instead.
Maybe your bunny will deal with gabapentin better than mine did~ Let us know how it goes.
Maybe your bunny will deal with gabapentin better than mine did~ Let us know how it goes.
You need to soak the food pellets in warm water. Let them absorb the water and they will break up into bits. Then add enough water to make it a pudding like soft mush. This you will need to syringe feed 4 times a day usually about 8-12ml per kg of body weight.
https://rabbitwelfare.co.uk/rabbit-health/medical/syringe-feeding-guide/
It needs to be done slowly, squirt a little in the side of the mouth and give your rabbit time to chew and swallow each little squirt. Don't give too much at a time or it could cause your rabbit to aspirate it, which is really bad and will usually cause pneumonia.
https://wabbitwiki.com/wiki/Medicating_your_rabbit
That syringe tip may be too small and get clogged up. If you can, you need a wide tip feeding syringe. Any extra of the pellet mush leftover, needs to be refrigerated and used within 24-48 hours. Make sure to warm it up(not too hot) before each feeding. Also make sure your rabbit is warm before feeding. If your rabbits ears feel really cold, use a rabbit safe warm pack(not too hot) to help warm your rabbits body temperature up. A cold hypothermic rabbit won't want to eat. And also, a cold rabbit will have a hard time recovering from illness/injury.
Your rabbit absolutely needs pain medication. If you have meloxicam suspension, I would get that. Dosing is 0.5mg/kg twice a day. If you don't have meloxicam suspension in your country, a human compounding pharmacy may be able to make a suspension for you, from meloxicam tablets(prescribed for people) and a suspension liquid that does not contain artificial sweeteners like xylitol.
https://www.vgr1.com/metacam/
Though depending on how severe the break is, your rabbit may also need a narcotic pain med like buprenorphine. Though usually I prefer not to use narcotic pain meds with my rabbits if at all possible, because it causes drowsiness and constipation(which is very bad for rabbits).
How broken is the jaw? Is it a hairline fracture, or is the bone completely broken through?
https://rabbitwelfare.co.uk/rabbit-health/medical/syringe-feeding-guide/
It needs to be done slowly, squirt a little in the side of the mouth and give your rabbit time to chew and swallow each little squirt. Don't give too much at a time or it could cause your rabbit to aspirate it, which is really bad and will usually cause pneumonia.
https://wabbitwiki.com/wiki/Medicating_your_rabbit
That syringe tip may be too small and get clogged up. If you can, you need a wide tip feeding syringe. Any extra of the pellet mush leftover, needs to be refrigerated and used within 24-48 hours. Make sure to warm it up(not too hot) before each feeding. Also make sure your rabbit is warm before feeding. If your rabbits ears feel really cold, use a rabbit safe warm pack(not too hot) to help warm your rabbits body temperature up. A cold hypothermic rabbit won't want to eat. And also, a cold rabbit will have a hard time recovering from illness/injury.
Your rabbit absolutely needs pain medication. If you have meloxicam suspension, I would get that. Dosing is 0.5mg/kg twice a day. If you don't have meloxicam suspension in your country, a human compounding pharmacy may be able to make a suspension for you, from meloxicam tablets(prescribed for people) and a suspension liquid that does not contain artificial sweeteners like xylitol.
https://www.vgr1.com/metacam/
Though depending on how severe the break is, your rabbit may also need a narcotic pain med like buprenorphine. Though usually I prefer not to use narcotic pain meds with my rabbits if at all possible, because it causes drowsiness and constipation(which is very bad for rabbits).
How broken is the jaw? Is it a hairline fracture, or is the bone completely broken through?
If you do decide your rabbit needs antibiotics, you have to be absolutely sure they are rabbit safe antibiotics, as some antibiotics will be fatal to your rabbit. Ones like penicillin or amoxicillin, should never be given to rabbits orally or they can cause fatal diarrhea. If you need to give antibiotics, usually enrofloxacin or trimethoprim/sulphamethoxazole are good broad spectrum antibiotics for rabbits and are considered safe for them.
Medirabbit: antibiotics safe for use in rabbits
Medirabbit: antibiotics safe for use in rabbits
Elahenajafi
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Hello friends, while I am going through the hardest days of my life, I am sending you a message here
I am very sad, these days are very difficult for me, I am stressed, worried and crying
Teddy hardly eats, of course, according to your advice, I softened the pellet with a mixture of water and he eats by himself, and his daily poops have reached 20 to 50.
In general, today his front tooth, which is called a canine, is a little longer than usual and has become deviated. I will take a picture of it.
This made me worry and I called his doctor, he said that the back teeth might grow and I became more worried
I want Teddy to get better because I am very, very attached to him. I am writing this text with tears in my eyes and I only hope that he will get better because he has never had any problems during these 4 years and I have always taken care of his nutrition and hygiene..
Elahenajafi
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Elahenajafi
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Regarding Guptin capsules, yes, you were right, I didn't give it one more time and I was scared because the main doctor didn't say anything again and he only takes calcium and vitamin medicine and a medicine for digestion!
The conditions here in Iran are very difficult and it is very difficult to communicate with the doctor, they are not always responsive and are not always in the hospital and the costs are really high! I will see
All of you are great and honorable people who have given time for us and are by our side
I don't know how to thank you
The conditions here in Iran are very difficult and it is very difficult to communicate with the doctor, they are not always responsive and are not always in the hospital and the costs are really high! I will see
All of you are great and honorable people who have given time for us and are by our side
I don't know how to thank you
Elahenajafi
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Can I have your WhatsApp number? Or introduce me to a doctor who can help me through WhatsApp
I don't know how dangerous the condition of the teeth will be with this eating situation that I have to eat soft hay and soft pellets for a while.
I don't know how dangerous the condition of the teeth will be with this eating situation that I have to eat soft hay and soft pellets for a while.
Did the vet take xrays? If the bone is a complete break, the bone needs to be surgically wired together to really heal. Otherwise, every time he moves his jaw, the bone moves causing pain and prevents it from healing.
Though if you don't have a vet experienced with performing surgery on rabbits, then this unfortunately isn't likely an option for you. Then all that can be done is to continue feeding your rabbit, and get pain medication if you haven't already. Your rabbit absolutely needs to be on pain medication.
If you can't get enough food in your rabbit and he is losing weight and suffering, and if you can't get the proper surgery done, the kindest thing might be to make the decision to have your rabbit put to sleep so he doesn't continue to suffer and be in constant pain. It's a very hard decision I know, but it would be the kindest thing you could do for him.
Though if you don't have a vet experienced with performing surgery on rabbits, then this unfortunately isn't likely an option for you. Then all that can be done is to continue feeding your rabbit, and get pain medication if you haven't already. Your rabbit absolutely needs to be on pain medication.
If you can't get enough food in your rabbit and he is losing weight and suffering, and if you can't get the proper surgery done, the kindest thing might be to make the decision to have your rabbit put to sleep so he doesn't continue to suffer and be in constant pain. It's a very hard decision I know, but it would be the kindest thing you could do for him.
Elahenajafi
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Thank you for your useful information. I soaked the pellet in cold water and it became soft. I didn't know that it should be soaked in hot water and kept in the refrigerator.
But I will do it from now on
I can't find the drug Melksikam in Iran, but I didn't understand exactly what you mean, how to get it
I'm sorry, my English is weak and I translate most of the texts on Google
Unfortunately, I couldn't find a syringe because their heads are very thin, but the problem is that he eats the pellets by himself, and because of this, they think that there is no need for a syringe, right?
Elahenajafi
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I don't know exactly the fracture. On the day when the CT scan was done, I was so confused and worried that I forgot to take the CD CT scan and the radiology picture, and I only heard from the doctor that his jaw was broken in several places on the left side.
Elahenajafi
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I will never do that, never
I will explain to you again about its nutrition
In the morning, he eats a little soft hay, in the afternoon, I put a little soft pellet in front of him and he eats it himself, and I reduced the fruit so much that I explained to him with the hay mixture, like a knuckle of crushed banana in his hay mixture.
His poops are around 50-100 per day if I'm not mistaken and he also drinks a lot of water
Do you think this?
Yes, as long as he is eating enough pellets, pellet mush, and hay by himself, the he shouldn't need to be syringe fed. If he's not losing weight then you know he's getting enough food on his own and is starting to recover alright.
Elahenajafi
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Excuse me, are you a doctor yourself?
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Thank you. Yes, he eats pellets well and he likes them, but he does not eat hay that I put in his mouth with my finger.
Excuse me, are you a doctor yourself?
Elahenajafi
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No, I'm not a vet. I've just had rabbits as pets for about 20 years, so have dealt with my share of health issues over that time.
If he's eating the softened pellets ok on his own, I would just keep offering him softened pellets. It's much better and less stressful, if he will eat enough of the softened pellets on his own. Plus syringe feeding is risky, as his jaw could be reinjured if he struggles while trying to syringe the food in his mouth. I would only syringe feed if there was no other choice if he's not eating very much. And then the syringe feeding would need to be done very carefully, as to not hurt his broken jaw.
Those syringes look like the tips might be big enough if you decide you need to syringe feed. Though you may need to cut a little off the very tip to make them even wider if you find they get clogged.
If he's eating the softened pellets ok on his own, I would just keep offering him softened pellets. It's much better and less stressful, if he will eat enough of the softened pellets on his own. Plus syringe feeding is risky, as his jaw could be reinjured if he struggles while trying to syringe the food in his mouth. I would only syringe feed if there was no other choice if he's not eating very much. And then the syringe feeding would need to be done very carefully, as to not hurt his broken jaw.
Those syringes look like the tips might be big enough if you decide you need to syringe feed. Though you may need to cut a little off the very tip to make them even wider if you find they get clogged.
Elahenajafi
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Thank you for your explanation
I also found this syringe with difficulty
Can you leave your WhatsApp number, I will send you a video of my rabbit
I also found this syringe with difficulty
Can you leave your WhatsApp number, I will send you a video of my rabbit
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