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grumpybabies

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This is just a thought in the back of my mind,but i was thinking of the possibility of doing a few proper breedings of french lops or flemish giants to sell to people, not to pet shops.Is this a stupid idea? I would only want to do it with the proper knowledge, pure bred rabbits etc, so what would i have to do to start to get the knowledge to be responsible and knowledgable enough to do it well?
 
http://www.arba.net

Become a member of ARBA (link above) and they will send you some wonderful guidebooks and other information. Also, they will send you a breeder directory. If you are truly interested in French Lops and/or Flemish Giants, also become a member of their National Breed Clubs.(those links can be found on the ARBA site under national clubs or charter clubs, I forget which). They will send you breed specific information.

Attend as many shows as you can. Ask questions about everything! Feel out the people that are bringing the breeds you like to the shows.Usually there are a few great breeders who you will hopefully gain a close relationship with and they can mentor you.

You don't have to breed lots of litters to become a 'proper breeder'. Some of the small time breeders have the best show stock.
 
Something you will have to keep in mind is this-you will never make a profit. The only way to make money on rabbits is in the meat industry. You also will have to have enough cages, not only for your breeding stock, but so that the litters you have will have individual cages to go into at weaning. You have to learn to screen prosective owners/buyers. Most of the people I sell my rabbits to contact me over the internet. I have gotten so I can pretty much read one email from someone looking for a rabbit and tell whether or not there is any possibilty I would be willing to sell them a rabbit or not.
Also, get a good rabbit vet before you even get started,you will need one. I hope this didn't discourage you, I think that just by the fact you are looking up "the facts" so to speak, before you get started, makes you a responsible rabbit owner already. Breeding rabbits can be the most enjoyable, the most rewarding, the most stressful, wonderful hobby you could think of, LOL. Good luck!
 
I know nothing about breeding in the UK - but here is what I would do.

a. Find the organization that is most like ARBA here in the states (if there is one) and join it.

b. See if there are specialty groups for the breeds you want to work with - and join it.

c. Buy the UK version of the "standards of perfection" if there is such a thing.

Now why do I suggest all these things? They add up in money - right?

Well - usually joining the National organization gets you some sort of guidebook or yearbook listing members (helpful for contacts). To me, as a fellow breeder - it says, "this is someone willing to invest a bit in their breeding to learn..". With ARBA here in the states we also get a bimonthly magazine.

Joining a specialty club helps support the club - but there is often times a guidebook which talks about those breeds and what to look for or how to deal wtih them. It also says to breeders, "Hey...I'mworking on my rabbits and willing to invest a bit to learn and be partof this group..".

I'd also go to some shows if they have them (I'm guessing that they do). Meet other breeders and actually see how judges judge rabbits so you know what you're looking for.

I'd educate myself on the colors as much as possible - if only to be able to not look like a ninny if someone mentions a color and I'm going, "uh...what's that?".

One thing to remember about the breed(s) you're considering is that they are LARGE bunnies and may well have LARGE litters. Can you afford a LARGE feed bill? Just something to consider...

Also - read a bit first about the personalities of those rabbits. We had a french lop for a few months - I thought Tiny would enjoy having someone his size.

NOT!

French lops have a much different personality (just my opinion from the one we had) - more aggressive - whereby Tiny is more laid back (unless he gets around an aggressive doe or a buck who tries to mount him).

Also ask yourself how much time you can devote to this.

Once you decide to start breeding - get the VERY VERY BEST buck you can afford. Then get two does - I like to recommend folks get them from the same breeder as the bloodlines may be more likely to mesh well - I've done the "buy the cute bunny from here and from there" thing (and I'm getting some from different breeders this year too) and I find it doesn't always work that well.

Finally - breed your does within 24 hours of each other or so - that way you will hopefully have a foster mom if something messes up.

Peg

grumpybabies wrote:
This is just a thoughtin the back of my mind, but i was thinking of the possibility of doing a few proper breedings of french lops or flemish giants to sell to people, not to pet shops. Is this a stupid idea? I would only want to do it with the proper knowledge, pure bred rabbits etc, so what would ihave to do to start to get the knowledge to be responsible and knowledgable enough to do it well?
 
We are still new at breeding we have been doing it for a year.....first thing I was told don't think you will get rich off of it. I am not saying that is what your thinking but it is easy to think okay if the mama has so many babies I could sell them for......okay that is what my daughters think about when we have babies. Make sure if you aren't selling them to pet shops that they have pedigrees and a lot of legs(like points). This helps, when we go to buy rabbits we look at the pedigree for legs. And they have to have a pedigree for ARBA shows I believe, and ear tagged.

Hope this helps a little, I am not an expert but where we are new still this kind of helped us getting started. Oh, P.S. rabbit poo, people like to buy it also because it is great fertilizers.

Brenda:apollo:
 
Well thanks all for the advice, i will start reading up on our BRC site first then look into the ARBA one too. I know i'm not going to make a profit, but it will be a wonderful experience i think. I have had trouble finding rabbit shows in my area though, i live in the Southwest of the UK if anyone is local and knows any? May just have to travel i guess...

It was only a thought about the breeds, as i love big rabbits, i have heard flemish are really friendly, so maybe that will be the best to start with. Any other breeds that are easy for a first timer?

Also Peg, did you mean get the buck and the 2 does from the same person, or just the 2 does?
 
:helloI am a rabbit breeder myself.I do agree with others it sometimes hard to make a good profit from doing this.Do a lot of research before you start. It is always good to start with a trio.1 buck and 2 does.But remember never never breed brother to sister...... One of my breeds is the flemish giants they have the sweetest personally I compare them to a puppy dog. I dont have french lops but I do have holland lops fuzzy lops and mini lops.These are are very sweet too.Well good luck with this it is a lot of work sometimes but it is well worth it. I wouldnt have it any other way.

Bunnylady:bunny19
 
I usually would recommend getting all three from the same breeder as the bloodlines are probably compatible and frequently breeders will give you a better price on a "trio"...

But you need to go with what you feel is best when you look at the rabbits themselves.

Also remember that you want rabbits you're going to enjoy - if they have an awesome doe but she's mean as can be and there is one that isn't quite as nice for show - but has a great personality - you want the nice one!

So "body type" isn't everything..especially if you're breeding for pets.

Peg

grumpybabies wrote:
Also Peg, did you mean get the buck and the 2 does from the same person, or just the 2 does?
 
Remember every baby wil not be show quality im happy if 1 out of a litter is showable.join those orginsations and clubs.get bloodlines that go together ,ask ,breeders love too talk about their rabbits.this is not prifitable but i love it.when i see the smile on a kids face who just bought there first show rabbit that makes my day.when that litter finally comes after all that waiting.when you win your first Best Of Breed.a rabbit you raised yourself.bluebird
 
Hiya I am a member of the BRC. If you join you can subscribe to their magazine fur and feather it comes out once a month and has articles and all the shows all over the uk. It will also give you a list of breeders and rabbit clubs near you there are a lot of specialist breed clubs. I have just got in touch with abreeder near me and she is going to help me with colours and stuff as i have only been breeding about a year. You will find out very quickly that everyone worth knowing knows each other and will be really willing to help you out in any way they can.

Hope this is helpful Polly
 

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