The black one looks to be a silver martian mixed with something smaller, ( I'm not 100% ) on this but someone else may have some input. The other one looks like lionhead (for sure) and possibly Dutch with the pattern and weight, but could be pure lionhead with the Vienna gene and over show weight by a few ounces
I'm sorry I can't help you on the breed question but omg those are freaking adorable bunnies! Your lionhead bunny has gorgeous coloring!!
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