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We are back from the vet. He had a lot of hair matted on his behind and when he shaved him and found that he has some sores and urine burn. He pooped ok while we were there. I guess that is why he couldn't walk to much since his tail was really matted. He was very good as the vet did this as long as I was petting his head. He also said he was dehydrated so he gave him some fluids. He said one of the sores looked gangrene and to give him antibiotics that I have left at home. I said I was afraid I would have to put him to sleep and he said we still may have to due to the sores. He is a wonderful vet though so I have hope. I am taking Coco back on Thursday to have him checked on maybe change the antibiotic. I have him in my kitchen since it has a door and I put his blanket on the floor and his cage is open so he can decide where he wants to go. I know he is stressed as I will just let be for a while. The vet did say if I can wrap a warm wash cloth around each leg to sooth them a few time a day. He will let me do that if I sit on the floor and pet his head. I feel so bad that this has happened but I am going to watch him more closely. Please say some prayers for him that even if we have to change to a different antibiotic they work, and if not that he isn't going to suffer.
Thanks for your advice...
Joanne
 
Well done for getting him to the vets.

Hopefully now poor bunny can start on the road to recovery :)

What kind of bunny is he? Does he have long fur?
 
He is a mini lop and does not really have long hair but it is thick. And when I comb him he really doesn't really like me to get to close down there and I can't get him to lay on his side, so I guess that is why he gets matted.
 
IT's probably quite important to look and see if there is a root cause for his matting and urine scald, like if he is having trouble weeing, or why he is getting matted and not grooming himself successfully, etc. If you can work out what happened and why then it should prevent it happening again :)
 
Can I ask you how you keep your bunny from having an odor? My son took care of him and used cedar shaving with newspaper underneath and I hated that. It would smell all the time. He move and I am taking care of Coco and found something that is more like soft recycled paper which is very absorbent. I think he likes it because he has been laying in his litter box a lot. I was doing better with the odor using that and it was easier to get out of his box and then I wipe it down with water and add new. I started putting it all around his cage so that he didn't stay in his litter box but we already had a problem. I just want to use what is best for him but not break the bank as I just lost my job!
 
I would have him neutered which can help with the odor. Changing the litter more frequently also helps.

Who usually is in charge of cleaning the cage and making sure the rabbit has food and water?

I understand about being unemployed. I just went throught that myself. I'm working two temp jobs right now.
 
I am really glad that you took him to the vet;

I am wondering about his legs

Where exactly are the sores ; are they from the urine burn on his genitals or on his legs/ or both

did the vet give you any kind of ointment or salve to put on them; also the terrible smell is probably gangrene

cedar chips are extemely bad for rabbits and their respiratory tracts so the soft bedding is better.
What kind of antibiotic is he on now ?
The other thing I wonder is if you could call the vet and ask him if he could give your rabbit some pain medication

I'm sure he must be in pain; most pain meds require that the bun be well hydrated before giving them

if the vet did not give you sub q's I would get some pedialyte and give him some out of a syringe every few hours.
You want to set up an living situation so he has access to food and wter without working for it.
 
He is red in the genital area put the sores seemed to be more on his legs. No he gave me no ointment, just said to try to sit with the warm washcloth and give the antibiotic. I didn't like the cedar chips for him but my son kept buying a enormous bag because he was in charge of cleaning him. I am doing it now so I am using the soft stuff now, but he seems to just want to stay in his litter box. So I put him in another short container with a t-shirt for now, but he can get back in his cage and litter if he want. I put water in a bowl so he doesn't have to be trying balance and get water from the bottle. The antibiotic is Sulfamethoxazole/Trimethoprim 240mg/5ml
Does that make sense to you? He gets a skin condition and was given that. I think it may have something for pain.
The vet did give him sub q because he was dehydrated. I just don't want him to be sitting in his litter box, which when I think back he was doing that for a few days and I put some of the bedding in the rest of the cage but he wanted to stay there. I just gave him a piece of bread which he loves and he ate that and drank some water.
 
Ok. A few things. That drug is only an antibiotic. I think he needs some salve for those open sores. Something like Udder Cream, diaper rash cream, or neosporin (without pain medicine in it) is really important. You also will want to keep it very clean. I recommend washing twice a day with betadine and putting ointment on after the washes.

I'm not sure what the antibiotic is for. It is possible that he has a skin infection, although I don't think those are very common in rabbits. To me it just sounds like he has irritated skin due to rear end immobility. Rabbit urine is very basic (opposite of acidic) and can burn the skin.

It may be better to put him on fleece bedding, as it wicks the moisture away very well.

However, the main problem is the cause of the rear end immobility. Did the vet have any idea what caused it? This is not something that usually goes away on its own without treatment, and it will seriously impact his quality of life if it cannot be solved.

You may need to give him oral fluids by syringe and/or pedialyte (by syringe or in a bowl) to rehydrate him. Also, bread isn't good for bunnies' sensitive digestive systems so you shouldn't give more than just a nibble. Good luck.
 
Flashy wrote:
IT's probably quite important to look and see if there is a root cause for his matting and urine scald, like if he is having trouble weeing, or why he is getting matted and not grooming himself successfully, etc. If you can work out what happened and why then it should prevent it happening again :)

I think that we are concerned here because if this bun has urine scald and bad sores we don't know why. There are various bladder problems that can cause a rabbit to sit in his own urine and it is unclear as to whether he has a bladder infection, another disease affecting his kidneys or possibly this problem was created by not keeping his cage clean. All of this makes a difference in the treatment protocol.

if your rabbit has urine scald your vet should have given you tips to help the bun recover. A oral antibiotic is probably not going to do the trick without more intervention and the trimeoprim sulfa is not a particularly strong med but most likely will do no harm.
I am going to give you some of the info from Kathy Smith /lucille Moore's Book . I am not quoting every word and leaving out product s that would be difficult for you to get at a drugstore
"When you rabbit Needs Special care. "


I strongly believe that if your bun has sores , scald and gangrene that you MUST attempt to get pain meds for him as he most likely is suffering greatly but not showing it . ( my opinion)
this is kathy Smith on this subject

"Urine Burn (urine scald)
Urine dribbling and subsequent scald over the rabbit's genital area is a common problem with older rabbits, obese rabbits, rabbits with chronic illnesses and paralyed rabbits Diapers and/or expressing the bladder may help to prevent urine scald as may frequent butt baths. But sometimes urine scald occurs despite your best efforts to prevent it , or a rabbit may come to you already having urine burn. In minor cases the skin is slightly reddened from the irritation. In worse cases the fur will fall out and ulcers may be present and in the worse case death may occur.
Minor cases of urine burn are usually treated with a gel, cream or powder. First soiled fur is clipped away and the area can be cleaned with betadine . Remember that almost anything that you put on the rabbit may be ingested so any topical medication must be something that will not harm the rabbit if ingested in small quantities

The following products have been recommended for urine burn by veterinary professionals in practice or in texts. Some of them contain antibiotics and others contain zinc, either of which may rarely have negative side effects on a rabbit if ingested in large enough quantities
Bag balm, calendula gel, panalog cream, neosporin ,cornstarch do not have zinc


if you don't think that your rabbit will eat it you can use baby diaper rash cream and wrap the legs loosely in vet wrap.
There are other topical professional veterinary dressings that you would not be able to buy that would cover the area , have an antibiotic and help heal all at once. You would have to get them from your vet.
I wish that I had a better understanding of the extent of the problems with the sores.

Would you feel comfortable taking pics of the rabbits sore. Pics can be dowloaded to this forum through sites like photobucket. it would help a lot in us giving you advice.

How is the rabbit now???
 
He is doing well now. I left him sleep for the afternoon and when I went to check him he hopped over to me. A little wobbly but I think that is from the floor. My opinion is that the matting of his fur, which involved his tail, made it hard for him to walk. I asked and the vet isn't sure which came first, matting or sores or what but he did an excellent job at cleaning him all off. He said he had been through enough stress and did not want to cause any more today, that is why he told me to give him the antibiotics for the infection and use the wash cloth on him a few times a day. He is going to see him again on Thursday to see how he is doing and what we need to do next so I really don't want to go ahead on my own and start adding ointments on him. He drank, peed, ate, pooped and hopped around the kitchen to explore and to see me so I think he is doing enormously better than this morning. I cannot hold him down to take pics of the area and like I said I don't want to stress him out anymore. I am just glad he is doing as well as he is now.
 
Wow!!:)

I was really worried about him

I am really happy to hear this

probably letting him run around and get air to his legs and sores is good for him
 
Thanks, I was too. I just hope that he stops sitting in his litter box. I added more of the litter all through his cage and put him in for the night(safer) and he hopped right in it. I hope he will lay down outside of it later!
 
I'm very glad to hear he's doing better -it's so very stressful for us when our pets suffer.
 
He LOVES the warms towel on his legs. He lays there and lets me wrap around and I pet him. I did it twice and when he got up he did a big stretch with front and back legs! I think he is feeling much better! Thank you.
 

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