Today is the day, Fan or Not

[NZminilops]

I watched most of the parade, it was pretty cool.

We've had a few different female primeministers, we only just got a man back in power again at the last elections. Mathew was telling me he doesn't get all the excitement about Obama, I kinda can, but I also think way too much fuss has been made over his skin colour. To me, he's just a man, like all the other men before him.

He's got a lot of expectations put on his shoulders so I hope he does well.

 

[naturestee]

Kherrman, my grandma (on the other side from the dozen half-Asian cousins) was racist too, which I didn't know till I heard her mention a second cousin of mine and how horrible it was that she was marrying "that black man." That just means she didn't get to know about my first boyfriend who was Hmong.

Carolyn- I'm racking up the vet bills but in all my babies are doing well! Have you seen Dora yet? She's my big spender- sickly baby I raised from an orphan. Spay next week, joy of joys.

 

[kherrmann3]

NZminilops wrote:

I kinda can, but I also think way too much fuss has been made over his skin colour. To me, he's just a man, like all the other men before him.

Psst! He's not even black! He's mulatto/biracial! His dad was from Africa and his mother was white. I think that a lot of people completely skip over the fact that he's 50/50! They just keep saying he's black! He's our guy, too!

 

[RexyRex]

kherrmann3 wrote:

Psst! He's not even black! He's mulatto/biracial! His dad is from Africa and his mother is white. I think that a lot of people completely skip over the fact that he's 50/50! They just keep saying he's black! He's our guy, too!

Don't you love how no one mentions that . His mom was a country girl from Kansas, but where's the history maker in that

 

[irishbunny]

kherrmann3 wrote:

NZminilops wrote:

I kinda can, but I also think way too much fuss has been made over his skin colour. To me, he's just a man, like all the other men before him.

Psst! He's not even black! He's mulatto/biracial! His dad was from Africa and his mother was white. I think that a lot of people completely skip over the fact that he's 50/50! They just keep saying he's black! He's our guy, too!

Ya that annoys me, he is half white too, as much white as he is black! He's also part Irish His ninth cousin in Ireland was on the TV the other day.

 

[irishbunny]

Barack and Mommy

 

[naturestee]

Look up pictures of Barack's maternal grandfather. He has the exact same face.

 

[irishbunny]

Whitey or blackie grandfather?

 

[Bo B Bunny]

kherrmann3 wrote:

NZminilops wrote:

I kinda can, but I also think way too much fuss has been made over his skin colour. To me, he's just a man, like all the other men before him.

Psst! He's not even black! He's mulatto/biracial! His dad was from Africa and his mother was white. I think that a lot of people completely skip over the fact that he's 50/50! They just keep saying he's black! He's our guy, too!

In the USA, I think if you are like 1/8 black..... you are still listed as black for race.

Makes me mad, but now they do include bi-racial as an option!

Hillary is officially Sec. of State now. She was really pretty yesterday. I know a lot of people don't like her but I noticed how good she looked. She's a smart cookie too!

 

[kherrmann3]

Personally, I like the Clintons. Sure, they lie and seem phony, but they're politicians. Isn't that what they're supposed to do? Sure, he got caught fooling around, but he just got caught doing what every other one has probably done. *shrug*

 

[BethM]

NZminilops wrote: I kinda can, but I also think way too much fuss has been made over his skin colour. To me, he's just a man, like all the other men before him.

I have been really amazed at how much people in other countries have paid so much attention to Obama's election. It's amazing to think that people in a different country would care so much. I guess US policies do have far-reaching consequences sometimes, but still.....amazing.

To me, he is "black," but not descended from slaves. Technically he's half African and half American.......Around where I live, it doesn't really matter where people are from so much, but more how they look, how you are treated depends more on how you look. Like, my husband is half Chinese and half white. But when people look at him, they only see Asian. (Well, some people think he's Native American, lol!)

I think the emphasis on his skin color will get less and less as time goes by, and I think it will be less important to younger people. But, it really is a historic time, since so much of the history of this country is tangled up with slavery and segregation. To the older generations, those who grew up during segregation, this is HUGE. Slaves built the White House, and the National Mall used to be a slave market. There are lots of people around who had to go to seperate schools or use seperate restrooms or water fountains from whites, and now to see someone who looks like them be elected President, well, it's huge.
I don't think it will be such a big deal down the road, as today's kids are growing up in a more integrated and accepting society. (It's not perfect, by any means, but it's better than it was.) Plus, they don't remember how bad things used to be here.

I'm just happy to see this country take a step closer to "....all men are created equal....."

 

[Elf Mommy]

My husband always says you have to vote if you want to voice your opinion about the politicians in office.

So, I won't be saying anything about the politicians in office.

What I will be saying is how much I hated this election in our school system. They shut us down and shut us up! They didn't want us voicing our opinions in any way, shape or form. They didn't want us to post anything about either candidate. If you were going to do lessons about the election process, they better be just that...the process, and NOTHING else. Don't watch the debates! Don't discuss the issues! Everything we did was closely scrutinized so that we didn't say anything of substance to the students.

I threw my hands up and didn't do anything to do with the election at ALL in my classroom, which was a crime, as this is the first one many of them will remember at 8-10 years old.

Then, the process is done, and the candidate that the NEA (educational union) backed makes it into office. NOW everything is sent out about how much we're supposed to make hoopla in our classrooms about the election and watch the coverage and do all sorts of nonsense. They even sent emails asking what we were doing ahead of time so they could get local news crews out to our classrooms.

Well, pardon me, but FORGET THAT! You can't tie my hands at the beginning and then demand that I have something newsworthy going on in my classroom in the end!!!

They had the tv on during lunch for the students. My students had media that day and the media specialist had the tv on and did activities about the election. That's all they got. I couldn't stomach celebrating something my students didn't have all the facts on to begin with.

Call me a cynic if you will, but this whole process left a bad taste in my mouth for government run public schools.

 

[BethM]

kherrmann3 wrote: Personally, I like the Clintons. Sure, they lie and seem phony, but they're politicians. Isn't that what they're supposed to do? Sure, he got caught fooling around, but he just got caught doing what every other one has probably done. *shrug*

I like the Clintons, too. They are both very smart people.
Yes, many other presidents fooled around, (JFK, anyone?) Clinton just got caught, and, unfortunately, lied about it. I personally don't think it's anyone's business how he chooses to spend his free time. (For all I know, Bill and Hillary have an open marriage and both have other, um, interests. I may not approve of that, but they're adults and that's no one's business but theirs.

Ok, sorry, I work with a few people who absolutely hate Bill Clinton, and that's the one thing they never fail to bring up, and won't let go of, and they never say anything else they don't like about him. To me, that's ridiculous.

 

[BethM]

Elf Mommy wrote: Well, pardon me, but FORGET THAT! You can't tie my hands at the beginning and then demand that I have something newsworthy going on in my classroom in the end!!!
.....
Call me a cynic if you will, but this whole process left a bad taste in my mouth for government run public schools.

Yeah, I agree with you. That really sucks what they did. Probably everyone on here already knows I'm all about fairness in schools, and that includes Current Events.
This election was a big deal, and, in my opinion at least, critical discussion of the issues the nation is facing right now should have been part of curriculum when discussing the election, not just the process. 8-10 year-olds are old enough to talk about things like that.

 

[naturestee]

irishbunny wrote:

Whitey or blackie grandfather?

Maternal grandfather= mother's father. Mother was white, from Kansas. Seriously, Obama looks just like him, more than most grandkids!

Elf Mommy, that's rotten. Kids should be allowed to learn this stuff without bias in school. My niece's high school had their own little election where they discussed some of the heavy-hitting themes. Considering high schoolers are only a few years away from voting I think all schools should do this. Of course many schools also don't teachhistory more recent than WWII...what do you mean you don't know about the Civil Rights Movementor the Iran-Contra scandal etc.?

BethM- I rather liked Bill Clinton too. Hillary rubs me the wrong way although she does do good policies. Everyone will remember Bill Clinton for being a womanizing dog but IMO he did a good job with his actual work.

 

[irishbunny]

naturestee wrote:

irishbunny wrote:

Whitey or blackie grandfather?

Maternal grandfather= mother's father. Mother was white, from Kansas. Seriously, Obama looks just like him, more than most grandkids!

Oops I didn't see the maternal bit! I looked it up and I agree he does!

 

[Bunnys_rule63]

Bo B Bunny wrote:

pinksalamander wrote:

Bo B Bunny wrote:

I DID hear that Prince Henry was caught again making racist comments.....

Haha yeah, silly idiot. If you're gonna say it, don't film it! (And also, side note, don't use your helibopter to land in your girlfriends garden either).

Still I love it when they do things wrong. At least they are human.

Fran :hearts :brownbunny

Exactly LOL! They are nice young men I'm sure. It's just so funny when they get caught being themselves like that.

Don't you mean Prince Harry?ha ha. Yeah, he's an idiot though. I mean, he also dressed up as a Nazi at a costume party a couple of years ago. I think he is the more 'wild' prince because he was never brought up to be King (as William will be...eventually!) I don't have a problem with him being a bit stupid and making mistakes, everyone does that, but I can't condone him making racist comments. I hate racism (and all types of prejudice), it's something that really grinds on me.:grumpy:

 

[Bo B Bunny]

kherrmann3 wrote:

Personally, I like the Clintons. Sure, they lie and seem phony, but they're politicians. Isn't that what they're supposed to do? Sure, he got caught fooling around, but he just got caught doing what every other one has probably done. *shrug*

EXACTLY! and I was angry at him and embarassed, but looking back, I think about the fact he had our country financially really good! He balanced the budget!

YES, BTW HARRY...... Where did I get Henry!!!???