Bo B Bunny
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YAY!!!!!!!!! I win! 
Step Right Up, Folks, Step Right Up
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pamnock wrote:
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You are such a cornball!!
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Yay! She's a Girl! Daddy's Little Girl! Poor baby doll had to be calleda Boys name all of her life. Leave it to Buck and The Missus to get tothe bottom of things.
-Carolyn
*giggles*
You are such a cornball!!
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Yay! She's a Girl! Daddy's Little Girl! Poor baby doll had to be calleda Boys name all of her life. Leave it to Buck and The Missus to get tothe bottom of things.
-Carolyn
Buck Jones
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RaspberrySwirl wrote:
Okay! Okay! We very "cagily" refrained from tellingthe vet Ernestine's history because we didn't want to influence hisdecision in any way. We only said we weren't sure what sexthe rabbit was and had disagreed about it. We asked for thesex and whether or not it had been neutered.
He proceeded to conduct his usual health exam, waiting untilthe end to determine sex because he was playing coy and pulling ourrespective legs, not "show" legs, I might add.
He then rolled her over, poked and looked around and declared it was afemale. The Missus played the Missourian and said, "Showme!" He called for an assistant then and formed a bunnyburrito of Ernestine and a towel. While his assistant heldErnestine burrito-style, he called us over to her nether end and placedhis forefinger and thumb on either side of the organ andpressed, but with more pressure than we had ever done, and out "popped"the little triangular shaped and "taco-slotted" style little vuvla...asall Internet articles and books had suggested! It was quiteclear and obvious. Neither of us, nor the breeder, really hadpressed hard enough to expose the whole organ. All we saw wasthe tip of it, which looked awfully like the tip of Calbert's andMickie's. In hindsight, we have probably never fullyvisualized their penises as well.
The vet also pointed out that the anus was much too close to the vulvato be a male, where there is an obvious separation. He was unable tofind any evidence of a spay during palpitation of her belly for scars,tumors, abscesses, etc and was not aware we had documentation saying"Ernest" had been spayed. The absence of testicular remainswas another clue, but that is not necessarily conclusive depending uponthe way a rabbit may have been castrated.
He added his ability to determine sex increases with the rabbit's ageand one of two or three years old presents no problem forhim. Two or three weeks old bunnies left him with nothingmore than 50% reliability factor, or no better that chance, hesaid. As a rabbit gets older, sexual differences become moreprominent.
He concluded that Ernestine was in good health. Recommended1/4 cup of pellets of feed per five pounds of rabbit maximum,free feed hay, occasional and moderate amounts of fruits, vegetablesand greens and considered the hay to be the most important aspect of arabbit's diet.
He said longer fiber matter did the best job of insuring gut motility,along the lines of two inches long or so. He indicated thatfiber of lesser length performed less adequately, in terms of motilityor insuring proper dental alignment by the amount of, and effortnecessary to chew the hay. He further recommendedthe immediate cessation of pelleted food and treats at the onset of anydiarrhea and substitution of hay as the sole source of food until therabbit's bowel movements returned to a more normal mode.
He wasn't concerned whether the hay was timothy or alfalfa, as long asit provided the necessary roughage/fiber and I have read similaropinions from more than one breeder whom I highly respect about alfalfahay NOT being the cause of diarrhea in and of itself.
I included his commentary on diet in case anyone might beinterested. He said it was based upon the latest research hehas been able to find. It may, or may not, coincide with whatyou may currently be doing with your rabbit(s) nutritionally, but Ithought it would be interesting to "hear" what a professional, rabbitsavvy veterinarian's take onthe subjectwas.
So, Ernestine it is! At the veterinary hospital she waslisted as "No-name" on the paperwork because we didn't wantto influence any eventual conclusion drawn by the doctor by a name'simplication.
As such, and because she lost THIS argument, the Missus is toying withchanging Ernestine's name into something that blends with the rest ofmost of the herd... namely, because we early- on chosealliteration to name our buns, something that begins in "M" and ends in"ie," as in Mickie, Maizie, Mitzie, Missy(I know it's not 'ie').etc.
I said that "Calbert" had already broken that alliterative "series,"and we, ourselves, sometimes have problems keeping the rabbits' namesstraight, so it is, therefore, time to break the habit and letErnestine remain as Ernestine.
What do you think?
Okay! Okay! We very "cagily" refrained from tellingthe vet Ernestine's history because we didn't want to influence hisdecision in any way. We only said we weren't sure what sexthe rabbit was and had disagreed about it. We asked for thesex and whether or not it had been neutered.
He proceeded to conduct his usual health exam, waiting untilthe end to determine sex because he was playing coy and pulling ourrespective legs, not "show" legs, I might add.
He then rolled her over, poked and looked around and declared it was afemale. The Missus played the Missourian and said, "Showme!" He called for an assistant then and formed a bunnyburrito of Ernestine and a towel. While his assistant heldErnestine burrito-style, he called us over to her nether end and placedhis forefinger and thumb on either side of the organ andpressed, but with more pressure than we had ever done, and out "popped"the little triangular shaped and "taco-slotted" style little vuvla...asall Internet articles and books had suggested! It was quiteclear and obvious. Neither of us, nor the breeder, really hadpressed hard enough to expose the whole organ. All we saw wasthe tip of it, which looked awfully like the tip of Calbert's andMickie's. In hindsight, we have probably never fullyvisualized their penises as well.
The vet also pointed out that the anus was much too close to the vulvato be a male, where there is an obvious separation. He was unable tofind any evidence of a spay during palpitation of her belly for scars,tumors, abscesses, etc and was not aware we had documentation saying"Ernest" had been spayed. The absence of testicular remainswas another clue, but that is not necessarily conclusive depending uponthe way a rabbit may have been castrated.
He added his ability to determine sex increases with the rabbit's ageand one of two or three years old presents no problem forhim. Two or three weeks old bunnies left him with nothingmore than 50% reliability factor, or no better that chance, hesaid. As a rabbit gets older, sexual differences become moreprominent.
He concluded that Ernestine was in good health. Recommended1/4 cup of pellets of feed per five pounds of rabbit maximum,free feed hay, occasional and moderate amounts of fruits, vegetablesand greens and considered the hay to be the most important aspect of arabbit's diet.
He said longer fiber matter did the best job of insuring gut motility,along the lines of two inches long or so. He indicated thatfiber of lesser length performed less adequately, in terms of motilityor insuring proper dental alignment by the amount of, and effortnecessary to chew the hay. He further recommendedthe immediate cessation of pelleted food and treats at the onset of anydiarrhea and substitution of hay as the sole source of food until therabbit's bowel movements returned to a more normal mode.
He wasn't concerned whether the hay was timothy or alfalfa, as long asit provided the necessary roughage/fiber and I have read similaropinions from more than one breeder whom I highly respect about alfalfahay NOT being the cause of diarrhea in and of itself.
I included his commentary on diet in case anyone might beinterested. He said it was based upon the latest research hehas been able to find. It may, or may not, coincide with whatyou may currently be doing with your rabbit(s) nutritionally, but Ithought it would be interesting to "hear" what a professional, rabbitsavvy veterinarian's take onthe subjectwas.
So, Ernestine it is! At the veterinary hospital she waslisted as "No-name" on the paperwork because we didn't wantto influence any eventual conclusion drawn by the doctor by a name'simplication.
As such, and because she lost THIS argument, the Missus is toying withchanging Ernestine's name into something that blends with the rest ofmost of the herd... namely, because we early- on chosealliteration to name our buns, something that begins in "M" and ends in"ie," as in Mickie, Maizie, Mitzie, Missy(I know it's not 'ie').etc.
I said that "Calbert" had already broken that alliterative "series,"and we, ourselves, sometimes have problems keeping the rabbits' namesstraight, so it is, therefore, time to break the habit and letErnestine remain as Ernestine.
What do you think?
Bo B Bunny
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Bo B Bunny wrote:
Congrats, it's a girl
OOPS! I thought it said HIS appointment LOL!YAY!!!!!!!!! I win!
Congrats, it's a girl
Thanks for all the research, Buck!
Very interesting story indeed.
(And Thank You, RaspberrySwirl, for drawing it out of him.)
The heck with the M's.
Maizie, Mitzie, Missy, Mickie, everything begins with an M and endswith an "ay" sound. It's so hard to get the middle right when you'rereferring to them. It's getting harder with age.
Go with Ernestine and Stop the Madness!!
:shock:
-Carolyn
RaspberrySwirl
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Yes, thank you kind sir for the lovely story!
I believe that rabbit shall forever beErnestine in the hearts of those here on the forum, but the Missus isthe boss. I always say "If Momma ain't happy, ain't nobodyhappy!"
Raspberry
I believe that rabbit shall forever beErnestine in the hearts of those here on the forum, but the Missus isthe boss. I always say "If Momma ain't happy, ain't nobodyhappy!"
Raspberry
AnnaS
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Oh what a great story. I really enjoyed the story, I hope the bunny enjoyed the experience.
And I think she looks like a girl in a picture anyway.
And I think she looks like a girl in a picture anyway.
