RESOLVED Keep Girly Girl in your thoughts and prayers

[TinysMom]

Last night Girly Girl gave birth (first time mama) to 3 babies. Two were DOA and one is alive. One of the two was a peanut.

Unfortunately, she won't leave her nest area and her privates are still swollen. I just got up and checked her so I would know if I needed to take Art to work and get the car (I do).

Here is what I just posted in the rabbitry area...

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Looks like we're off to the vet's this morning.....I'm so wiped out. I went to bed at midnight and just got up to check her so I could know whether or not to get the car today.

Her privates are still swollen and she's still laying in her nest area. Last night Lisa & I talked for a bit and we suspect a retained placenta or a retained kit or a stuck kit. I'm not sure what to do...

I'm going to call the vet that is 70 miles away that will handle rabbits. I'm not sure if they'll have me bring her in so they can check her - or if they will prescribe oxy and have a local vet fill the prescription. The thing is....if we do the oxy and it doesn't work - then she may have to go there anyway for a c-section....which is just what I needed with the holidays. NOT.

So the question is - do I try for the oxy to get it locally (I'm going to insist on antibiotics too to keep her from going septic)...and see if that works? Or do I insist on taking her there and having them check her?

I'm taking Art to work and going to lay back down till 8 am or so because I won't be able to function to drive if I don't get some more rest.

She isn't in "crisis" as far as being dehydrated and weak - so I am going to get the rest I need so that I can drive her to get her the help she needs.

I'll keep y'all updated.

Oh - and the kit - so healthy...and so darn cute. She is almost laying on top of it and keeping it warm and stuff. If it wasn't for the fact that her privates are swollen...I'd suspect she just wanted to keep it warm...

Peg

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Here is her picture as of last month...




Please keep her in your thoughts and prayers. I'll update this thread later today...

 

[Bo B Bunny]

Awww I hope she's ok. Get her to the vet and hopefully all will be well.

I can't wait to see the baby! sounds like she's gonna be a good Mama!!

 

[Thumpers_Mom]

Poor thing. I hope all goes well. ray:

 

[Pipp]

ray:

 

[JimD]

ray:

 

[TinysMom]

Both Girly Girl and Kiwi are heading to the vet's in just a few minutes - we got an appointment for 1:30 pm...

Peg

 

[cheryl]

Oh no,i hope everything is ok

ray:

Cheryl

 

[Bo B Bunny]

:nerves1Trying to be patient, trying not to worry.......

 

[maherwoman]

Hey guys...Peg asked me to update you (she asked that I call her while she was out, so I could let ya'll know how the girls are doing).

Peg, please correct any information I may put incorrectly here...

Both girls were examined and given digital xrays and found to be just fine.

Girly Girl's milk came in, and they were able to determine that neither had any remaining kits, but the vet said that in Kiwi's case, maybe the combination of losing her kits, and possible continuing labor pains (as humans also tend to get after labor is complete) may have confused her a bit as far as thinking there were more kits to be had.

The vet also took their weight, just in case she would have to call in a prescription of baytril to Peg's local vet for the girls.

So, Peg's on her way home and the girls are just fine.

 

[tundrakatiebean]

I'm so glad they're ok!

 

[TinysMom]

Why is it everytime I go to a vet with a pregnant girl that appears to be having issues - I wind up much poorer....and only find out that everything is ok?

I GIVE UP!

Seriously though, as it turns out - GG's milk has come in and it looks like she even nursed the baby once (we saw bite marks around a nipple). The only thing we can think of is she wanted to be with the baby all the time since she knew it was the only one....we don't know.

Both girls had x-rays done by a digital x-ray machine. I pointed out to the vet that it is possible for an x-ray to miss a placenta or something and she showed me that GG had shrunk down some and didn't have any more blood. (I think GG cleaned herself up in the car since she knew she was going out somewhere).

The vet was more concerned about Kiwi - but she had no kits in her either and there did not appear to be any placenta, etc. in her. It looked like her milk might have dropped too - and she doesn't have any live kits. The vet wonders if she kept straining because of the fact that she was upset about the empty nest and maybe she felt like she should keep trying?

I don't know - sorta sounded like baloney to me....

I asked for baytril to keep the does from going septic but she is of the mind that don't give it if they don't need it for sure (so that you don't build up a resistance to the drug). She took the weights of both girls and said that IF I felt like they needed it tomorrow - she could call in a script to the local vet for me. She pointed out that both girls had clear eyes and were alert and that GG was even grooming herself (and giving us the butt but she didn't call it that).

She feels like because both girls were first time mamas...that either they didn't know to fully clean up afterwards (GG) or maybe they felt like they still had more kits and had to keep trying (Kiwi).....

I'm not sure what to think...but since we know their milk came in...I'll settle for her reasoning.

I did take one of Isenstar's kits and get Kiwi's scent on it and put it in her nest. I hate having lone kits - although sometimes they are so cute as they bond with mama. I was encouraged by another breeder to rebreed Kiwi in 3 days as she would be ready by then....but after some consideration I decided against it. First of all, she herself is teddy and while I might have been able to get something non-teddy....since I have others that are slick...I might as well use them. Secondly, from the condition of the kits she did have - I suspect she has a small pelvis or birth canal or whatever and that she might have a hard time with a second delivery. Its just not worth risking her health to get kits...she'll either be rehomed as a pet later on or kept here as a pet. I do care about her a lot and it would not break my heart to keep her here as a pet.

Thanks so much to those who were watching and praying and sending good vibes - it meant a lot to me because I cried a lot of the way to the vets....just sure I was going to end up losing one or both girls.....

Peg