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brimmhere

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just curious what all this jumbo means LOL



wolfie steel flemish pedigree

sire: placed:1/2 warbars

bosv crrc

bov unfs



dam: placed 5/5 crrba

placed 5/5 crrba

placed 3/6 parba

bosv nci

placed 2/4 chs

placed 3/4 chs

placed 4/4 rfgrba



this is just info listed on the parents ofwolfie just curious what doesall of this mean in the show world??
 
the only thing familar ishis name and the wordsSire and Dam , andthe fact that its a Flemish Pedigree .Sorry I am not sure what allthose mean , they are writtendifferently that what I haveseen on papers here .
 
Some pre-knowledge information:

Variety is the color of rabbit. In the Flemish there is Black, Blue, Fawn, Light Gray, Sandy, Steel Gray and White.

The classes for Flemish Giants are as follows:

Senior Bucks - 8 months of age and over, weight 13 poundsor over.
Senior Does - 8 months of age and over, weight 14 pounds or over.

Intermediate Bucks & Does - 6 to 8 months of age.

Junior Bucks & Does - Under 6 months of age, minimum weight for
junior bucks and junior does 6 1/2 pounds.

Awards:
BOV= Best of Variety
BOSV= Best Opposite Sex Variety
BOB= Best of Breed
BOS= Best Opposite Sex (of breed)

Each variety are judge separate and by classes. Normally thevarieties go in alphabetic order so in this case Black Senior Buckswould be on the table first. The first place rabbit would stay on thetable after placements. Next the Black Senior Does would beon the table and the first place rabbit would stay on the table and therest would go back to the owner. This would follow through intermediateand juniors with bucks followed by does. All the first placewinners would them compete against each other for Best of Variety. Theopposite sex of whatever won BOV would then compete for Best OppositeSex of Variety.

Each variety would continue like this until all varieties representedare judged. The Best of Variety and Best Opposite Sex ofVariety would then go up against each other for Best of Breed and BestOpposite Sex of breed.

Each breed follows this same format unless they are a4 classsbreed (Senior Buck and Doe, Junior Buck and Doe). Some breeds go morein-depth on judging and have groups for example the NetherlandDwarf.

Self Group:
Ruby Eyed White, Blue Eyed White, Black, Blue, Chocolate, Lilac
Shaded Group:
Sable Point, Siamese Sable, Siamese Smoke Pearl, Tortoise Shell
Agouti Group:
Chestnut, Chinchilla, Lynx, Opal, Squirrel,
Tan Group:
Otter, Sable Marten, Silver Marten, Smoke Pearl Marten, Tans
AOV (Any Other Variety) Group:
Fawn, Himalayan, Orange, Steel

Ruby Eyed White senior bucks, senior does, junior bucks, junior doeswould show individually. There is then a Best of Variety and BestOpposite of Variety. Same goes for BEW, Black, Blue, Chocolate andLilac. Each of the BOV and BOSV in the Self Group would competetogether for a BOG (Best of Group) and BOSG (Best Opposite Sex ofGroup). The same would apply for the Shaded, Agouti, Tan and AOVgroups. Then each of the BOG and BOSG winners would then compete forBOB and BOS.

Brimmhere- The placements listed on the winnings would be that rabbitswinning for its class. The initials beside the placings arethe abbreviations for that show. I hope I didn't go too in-depth toconfuse you. If I did please ask and I will clarify. :D
 
Hi Brimmhere!

showrabbits, BlueGiants, Katiescrazyzoo, and dajeti2 are the Flemish Fanatics on the board.

Three out of four of them are breeders, all of them show, and all are extremely knowledgeable in all areas of Flemish rabbits.

Would steer you to them or Pamnock if you have questions about The Beasts.

:wink:

-Carolyn
 
gypsy wrote:
Goodness so much to learn solittle time lol :shock2:
Showing can be a little complicated at first butit's all a matter of time to learn all the information. :D

I personally think the Netherland Dwarfs are the hardest to catch theloops of since they have so many varieties and groups. Luckily Istarted out with them so it makes every other breed look easier toshow. ;)


 
Gypsy - are you planning on showing?The reason I ask is that I am from CT and I go to most of the shows inthe New England except in Maine and would be glad to teach you theropes!

Sharon
 
Starlight Rabbitry wrote:
Gypsy - are you planning on showing? The reason Iask is that I am from CT and I go to most of the shows in the NewEngland except in Maine and would be glad to teach you the ropes!

Sharon

I am going to TopsField 8/8 ifyour planning to attend .Im bringing Caz ( FrenchLop ) just so I can get adefinate Sexing of him . I am alsothinking I will Bring My FrenchLop Doe and put her in Sr. Just inthe short time I have had hershe has gained up and will nowmake weight .

Chances are really good I wontbe hard to spot lol just lookfor the Fat broad in a tank topwith a Cobra Tattoo on the upperleft arm lol .My armsboth are tattooed and I am hardto Miss ,


I messed up the Dateof Topsfieldshow is 8/6 not 8/8sorry !
 
wow so much to know in the show world!!thanx for explaining it, that info really doeshelp! so by looking at just those numbers andsuch would those 2 rabbits of been good showrabbits? to me looking at the parents at thebreeders they were beautiful hehe butlike in show terms would these have been like good examplesof the flemish breed?
 
gypsy wrote:
Chances are really good I wontbe hard to spot lol just lookfor the Fat broad in a tank topwith a Cobra Tattoo on the upperleft arm lol .My armsboth are tattooed and I am hardto Miss ,
rofl you crack me up gypsy!! :laugh:
 
Brimmhere, You asked if they would be good showrabbits based on the info on their pedigree.... based on what you gaveus, I'd say the buck is the better show animal (although he hasn't beenshown as much as the doe). The doe is probably a good brooddoe (good motherly type). But you'd have better feel for thequality if you knew what the judging comments were.As in what the judges faulted her most for... poor shoulders, low/laterise, fine bone, ear length, fur color, eye color, etc. (Keepin mind that the steel color is VERY hard to breed right, and manyreally good, well boned, awesome steels are faulted on coloralone.) At a rabbit show, we are lucky to actually hear whatthe judge thinks of our rabbit, in detail (Not like a dog show!).

We take those comments, show placements and awardsand usethem to help us decide which two bunnies to breed to improve the type.or correct the faults. It's not just to have "purebred"bunnies. We really do strive to keep the Flemish (Dutch, MiniRex, Palamino, Satin, Netherland dwarf, etc.) looking like what it'ssupposed to.. according to a Standard for that breed,whilemaintaining temperment

I'm sure Wolfies parentsare awesome, just like Wolfie will bewhen he grows up. Enjoy your baby... there's nothing like aFlemish!
 
i am already learning how different theflemish is from other breeds! its amazing the personalitythat they have! almost reminds me of a dog more than arabbit. they crave attention follow us around comewhen called (they are learning i have treats hehe) i wasbunny attacked last nite as i had a handful of parsley! itspretty funny to see two rabbits up on hind legs begging and jumping upon your chest to get to parsley LOL both kipper and wolfie areunshowable due to bites on their ears but a huge reason as to why iwanted them. i dont care about showing or breeding.so the nips in the ears are no concern to us!

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kipper is thesandywolfie the steel
 
The ear nibbles are a shame. But it'sgenerally not a DQ... just a fault. If you want an educatedopinion of how they look compared to the standard, put them in a localshow and hear what the judge says. (It's usually $2.50 toenter a bunny, but you usually have to dothe entryaweek before the show.) Even if they don't "place" at the topof the class, the judge will give you a run-down of their good points,strengths and weaknesses.. Always interesting to know, sothat you know what your looking at and how to assess an animal (beyondthe obvious health issues).
 
No doubt, gypsy keeps me laughing with her many funny comments. (You know I was giggling in this one, Gypsy. :wink:)
Her knowledge and experience has also taught me a lot.

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BlueGiants,

You're another one who I love to read what you write. The way you writeshows how big your heart is and how dedicated to getting it right youare. Your rabbits are gorgeous, to say the least! I'm so glad you foundthis forum.

I completely agree...there's nothing like a Flemish. They're definitely a 'rabbit of a different color'. :)

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Starlight and BlueGiants: do you folks go to the Goshen, CT show in September?

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Brimmhere,

I'm so thrilled that you are enjoying your new babies so much! :jumpforjoy:

They are absolutely gorgeous. Love those ears! I know exactly what youmean about following you. So sweet, isn't it? It always cracks me upbecause Cali's so big, but she's such a baby in need of security, love,and attention. People that don't even care for rabbits that come tovisit all are obsessed with her when they leave. Haven't had one personthat's met my baby that hasn't been impressed and walked out of my apt.in love. I get asked quite often by folks, "How's the rabbits? Andhow's Cali?"

So look forward to stories and pictures. Take lots because I swear theygrow so fast. Tina once said to me that she can almost watch Apollogrowing before her eyes. I laughed, and then I got a Flemish andrealized, she wasn't kidding!

:purplepansy:
-Carolyn
 
:inlove:i know i can say the flemish has stole myheart!! they are such an amazing rabbit!! omg i gotto see my first flemish binky last nite LOL sooooadorable. wolfie was a bit on the wild side and did a fewbinkies in a row absolutlyadorablelike putergeekgirl has said its like watching in slow motionLOL
 
Starlight and BlueGiants: do you folks go to the Goshen, CT show in September?


Sorry, we usually do make the Goshen shows in September (We are membersof the local sponsoring club), but my parentsarecelebratingtheir 50th Wedding Anniversary this year, and arabbit show isn't a good enough excuse to let meskip thefestivities... (I rather prefer the company of my bunnies!)
 
Carolyn - Yes I am going to the show in Sept inGoshen. Last year I couldn't go because my grandfather hadpassed away. But this year I'll be there.Doyou go to the Durham Fair or any fairs?
 
See Caro... You shoulda come down with me when I went to the North Haven Fair, bumped into Cathy, and adopted Anubis =)

I might have to check out that Goshen Fair too... but Shawn may forbid me... fearing I will come home with another furkid =)
 
While we are on Pedigree questions, I have alittle question for yunz. How do you get your bunny to be aPedigree? I know it sounds stupid, but I am new to all ofthis and I thought I would just chime and start asking questions Ihave. Please don't laugh till you puke.:bunnydance:
 

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