bluebird
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My friends on the chicken board from all over thecountry said they use electric fence around there chicken coops andpens.bluebird
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MyBabyBunnies
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I can't put an electric fence around. We live intown with a small backyard and we don't have the money to put one up.Not to mention we'll out of this house by this September so it's reallya waste of money we don't have.
And in the next house we can't put an electric fence up either becauseit has very strict regulations. Everything has to look alike -- thehouses have to look relatively the same (no unusual, bright colors) andyou have to use black chain link fencing around your yard.
And in the next house we can't put an electric fence up either becauseit has very strict regulations. Everything has to look alike -- thehouses have to look relatively the same (no unusual, bright colors) andyou have to use black chain link fencing around your yard.
Hi Laura,
Just spoke to the wildlife biologist for you about your cougar.
He said with a 'super predator' like that, it's not going to berebuffed by an offensive smell. If they pick up on therabbits' scent, they will go after it and they're quite bright andinventive. He said that the cat would destroy the hutch in amoment's time.
If you are to keep them outside, the only way you could possibly try tostop it is if you had a chain-linked fence above and attached to thehouse so that there was no way of the predator getting in. Itwould cost about $400 to do that, which I know isn't going to happen,but wanted to give you the complete thought.
Wish I had better news for you. Sorry. :?
-Carolyn
Just spoke to the wildlife biologist for you about your cougar.
He said with a 'super predator' like that, it's not going to berebuffed by an offensive smell. If they pick up on therabbits' scent, they will go after it and they're quite bright andinventive. He said that the cat would destroy the hutch in amoment's time.
If you are to keep them outside, the only way you could possibly try tostop it is if you had a chain-linked fence above and attached to thehouse so that there was no way of the predator getting in. Itwould cost about $400 to do that, which I know isn't going to happen,but wanted to give you the complete thought.
Wish I had better news for you. Sorry. :?
-Carolyn
One last note, Laura, because I continued to search for more information about this.
As Buck had stated, you could try collecting human urine and putting itaround the area because we are the bigger predator. It maynot work because as stated, if the mountain lion wants his prey, he/shewill get it no matter what.
Other things people have tried is tokeeppredatorsawayareammonia,garlic, and sour buttermilk.
You'd have to replenish all of the above as the heat will evaporate them.
-Carolyn
As Buck had stated, you could try collecting human urine and putting itaround the area because we are the bigger predator. It maynot work because as stated, if the mountain lion wants his prey, he/shewill get it no matter what.
Other things people have tried is tokeeppredatorsawayareammonia,garlic, and sour buttermilk.
You'd have to replenish all of the above as the heat will evaporate them.
-Carolyn
JimD
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I had a friend that worked in the home security field and he had a great idea.
Use a motion detector to turn on some floodlights in the area. Alongwith that he connects a looped recording of a barking dog. Cougarapproaches...lights go on...dog starts barking like crazy....cat runsaway.
He figures after a few times the cat will learn and the noise shouldwake you up so you can run to the rescue. He said to be sure to keep aturned on garden hose or some rocks by the back door.
~Jim
Use a motion detector to turn on some floodlights in the area. Alongwith that he connects a looped recording of a barking dog. Cougarapproaches...lights go on...dog starts barking like crazy....cat runsaway.
He figures after a few times the cat will learn and the noise shouldwake you up so you can run to the rescue. He said to be sure to keep aturned on garden hose or some rocks by the back door.
~Jim
MyBabyBunnies
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That's a good idea, just not for me.
First, it's bound to cost a bit to get it set up and work effectivelyand be weather proofed especially for a house we're only going to be infor another 6 or 7 months.
Secondly, it's not exactly neighbor friendly in an area with a lot offree roaming pet cats. We already have a motion activated light and itgoes on multiple times during the night because of cats wanderingthrough my yard. The light we have is not very bright but if it was anybrighter we'd have complaints from neighbors about it I'm sure. Cougarsare not scared of dogs, here they have actually hunted a few dogs, evenbig breeds with deep barks. To scare a cougar it would have to be veryloud and I'm sure with it going off multiple times a night thatneighbors would call the police for disturbing the peace and we wouldhave to remove the system anyways. It's just not residential friendlybut otherwise it's a good idea.
I don't mean to make up excuses for not doing something about it. Ilove my rabbits but I don't have the ability or funds to do what'snecessary in this case.
P.S.- A water hose isn't feasible in Canada because of the extreme coldin the winter which is especially when they come into town looking fora meal.
First, it's bound to cost a bit to get it set up and work effectivelyand be weather proofed especially for a house we're only going to be infor another 6 or 7 months.
Secondly, it's not exactly neighbor friendly in an area with a lot offree roaming pet cats. We already have a motion activated light and itgoes on multiple times during the night because of cats wanderingthrough my yard. The light we have is not very bright but if it was anybrighter we'd have complaints from neighbors about it I'm sure. Cougarsare not scared of dogs, here they have actually hunted a few dogs, evenbig breeds with deep barks. To scare a cougar it would have to be veryloud and I'm sure with it going off multiple times a night thatneighbors would call the police for disturbing the peace and we wouldhave to remove the system anyways. It's just not residential friendlybut otherwise it's a good idea.
I don't mean to make up excuses for not doing something about it. Ilove my rabbits but I don't have the ability or funds to do what'snecessary in this case.
P.S.- A water hose isn't feasible in Canada because of the extreme coldin the winter which is especially when they come into town looking fora meal.
Buck Jones
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Perhaps, a bit simplistic, but could you bring them inside during the evenings, when attack is more likely?
I know it means more effort cleaning and all, but when you're faced with such a problem......?
Buck
I know it means more effort cleaning and all, but when you're faced with such a problem......?
Buck
JimD
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ditto what Buck said.
MyBabyBunnies
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Buck,
I'd jump at the chance to have my bunnies inside but the reason theyare outside bunnies is because of severe allergies of me and my familymembers. I can live with my allergies but my dad's are so severe thatafter 5 minutes of them being in the same room he has to leave thatarea. It's not as simple as leaving them in my room because rabbit hairtravels through the air and on clothes so easily. It's not a matter ofcleaning and vacuuming more because I'd have to vacuum roughly everyhour to keep my dad's allergies at the livable point.
I'd just keep them in the garage but there is one serious problem withthat, the car exhaust. My dad was pushing his car out of the garage fora while there but it's hard on him and my mom can't do that with hercar. We have others come by to use our garage for their vehicles andI've had to take them out of the garage once because of the exhaustfrom a car. Not to mention the levels of stress they were suffering,every night was a worry that I would find them dead in the morningbecause they were constantly going off food and not going to thebathroom.
There have been no Cougar attacks in my particular area the onlyreported ones are farther south and to the east (I think the Cougarscame from the mountains to the south west and move east and north andthat's why they are farther east and not here). It still worries mebecause of the fact that they are within a 30 minute drive from here.The only thing that I can think which would be helpful is the hugeamount of farming of livestock and other large animals between here andthe city with the Cougars. Hopefully that will slow them down foranother year.
I'd jump at the chance to have my bunnies inside but the reason theyare outside bunnies is because of severe allergies of me and my familymembers. I can live with my allergies but my dad's are so severe thatafter 5 minutes of them being in the same room he has to leave thatarea. It's not as simple as leaving them in my room because rabbit hairtravels through the air and on clothes so easily. It's not a matter ofcleaning and vacuuming more because I'd have to vacuum roughly everyhour to keep my dad's allergies at the livable point.
I'd just keep them in the garage but there is one serious problem withthat, the car exhaust. My dad was pushing his car out of the garage fora while there but it's hard on him and my mom can't do that with hercar. We have others come by to use our garage for their vehicles andI've had to take them out of the garage once because of the exhaustfrom a car. Not to mention the levels of stress they were suffering,every night was a worry that I would find them dead in the morningbecause they were constantly going off food and not going to thebathroom.
There have been no Cougar attacks in my particular area the onlyreported ones are farther south and to the east (I think the Cougarscame from the mountains to the south west and move east and north andthat's why they are farther east and not here). It still worries mebecause of the fact that they are within a 30 minute drive from here.The only thing that I can think which would be helpful is the hugeamount of farming of livestock and other large animals between here andthe city with the Cougars. Hopefully that will slow them down foranother year.
Buck Jones
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'Nuff said. Obviously, you cannot keep'em inside. I was just stating the obvious, in case it hadbeen overlooked. I should have known you would haveconsidered that right from the gitgo. My bad.
Buck
Buck
MyBabyBunnies
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Don't worry Buck, I didn't expect you to know, lol.
I'd love to have them inside but I just think it's more of a risk totheir health keeping them in the only place I can that's protected, thegarage.
I'd love to have them inside but I just think it's more of a risk totheir health keeping them in the only place I can that's protected, thegarage.
