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Oh, yes, our city government DOES need to be slapped, and not just because of our poor shelter. There are DOZENS of elementary schools here with no library, or a library that is locked and not used because there is no librarian. Don't even get me started on the issue of handguns and the 400 murders per year.

Answers to some of the above questions:

The SPCA and PAWS are two different agencies, and the SPCA does help PAWS to the best of its abilities. They pull adoptable animals, provide meds that we run out of when they can, etc. However, I don't think even the SPCA has a rabbit-wise vet. PAWS is not funded for a vet at all because a vet is not needed for animal control, which is what the city is willing to fund. You can control animals by killing them, no vet needed, and that is fine with the city. So PAWS relies on volunteer vets, UPenn, and what I call "rent-a-vets", who come in to work for a day at a time and let's just say many of them are not up to snuff, even on dogs, which is probably why they are rentavets.

PAWS has already been in all the papers for the horrible conditions, multiple times, both under its old name (PACCA) and under the new one. Everyone in town has had the opportunity to read about the numbers of animals killed, the filth, the animals without food and water, etc. Yet the conditions remain. Just as they do in our schools, which are little better, and the fact is in every paper, every day.

The new management is trying to change things, but my guess is that the situation is just too big for one person or even one agency to change. In reality, cats and dogs are different enough "problems" that I think there should be seperate facilities and strategies for each. Rabbits and small animals could go where the cats go, if for no other reason than to get the bunnies away from the constant deafening barking of 120-140 dogs. Just a dream!

I doubt that staff will bring rabbits to the TV station, because they feature dogs and cats who are in immediate danger of death. "Officially", the shelter doesn't kill rabbits, so there are "officially" no rabbits in immediate danger of death. We do have rabbits who have been there for a year, so I can see staff's point that it is better to save a dog who will otherwise die than to promote a rabbit who has an indefinite amount of time left. On the other hand, rabbits matter, too, so I will ask. Maybe we could time it for an anti-Easter bunny message, too.

I asked shelter staff before about putting rabbits at Petco and was told that they never got adopted. My other fear there was that I didn't know who does the adoption application if the animal is in a shop. I have seen men at the Petco near me buying lizards and fish to fight and be killed by their other lizards or fish, on more than one occasion. In the case of the lizard, they told the sales person that was why they were buying the lizard, and the kid sold it to them anyway. So I don't want to put a bunny somewhere where there won't be any screening of adopters. On the other hand, if we can get some bunnies spayed by putting them at Petco, that would be super, so I will ask shelter staff how the application process works at shops.

As of last night, we had just six bunnies at the shelter, and we just got a third volunteer who will be concentrating on them, so I am hopeful for the time being.







 
Angieluv was sometimes getting rabbits sent to Petco just so they could get neutered.;)

I actually have one of those buns, the shelter nearly euth'ed him because he was "aggressive," let's just say that he moonlights as a therapy bunny!

Adoption applicants at Petco (or Petsmart) have to go through the rescue that the animals come from. So it would depend on your shelter's rules, whatever those may be. You might be able to add a stipulation that a prospective adopter has to meet with someone from the shelter before getting approved. I know some HRS groups and other rescues go through Petco sometimes, I'm not sure how they handle it but I know they don't let rabbits go home with just anyone.

Even just adoption days for rabbits at local pet stores might help. My shelter does that with the dogs, a volunteer takes one at at time in to the Petsmart where the cats are and sits over there talking to people, getting attention for the dog and the shelter. They most often do that with well behaved pits so people can see they're not the evil dogs the news makes them out to be. Or they organize larger events with more animals in the local mall, and advertise it.
 
Mia you all have your work cut out for you , esp in Philly. Good luck and if i can think of anything, any ideas, come across any other places that would help you i will defintely let you know. Does Paws work with any rescues to help get the bunnies out, probablly a long shot because even most of the shelters are fill to there eyes with bunnies, and even piggies? Let me know if you are going to be at the feed store in Lansdale, i might have to stop by on my way home from the puppy mill rallys i go to.:biggrin2:
 
Thanks. Yes PAWS will transfer animals to any shelter or 501c3 rescue organization willing to take them. Or any foster home with a vet or personal reference. Luckily for so many of our cats and dogs, guinea pigs, etc. we have a lot of active rescues around here. Any local rescue that has room for any of our buns is welcome to take them, and I personally will be so grateful to have them living in a situation where people know and care about rabbits!

Paula from For Bunny Sake took two of our biggest bunnies last week, and we were all SO thrilled for them. You can't imagine how glad we were to know that they were finally going to have a life that wasn't filled with the sound of 120 pitbulls barking in the next room. Imagine the sleep they are getting :):):)
 
For Bunny Sake is overwhelmed with rabbits right now. We did have several adoptions but even than we got in some owner surrenders. Once more space opens we can take more. We do need more fosters. I will keep checking in on the situation as often as I can.
 
SnowyShiloh wrote:
Wendy really calls out to me, poor dear. I wish I could take her, I too can picture her relaxing on the couch... with ME!
Are you serious? Would you take her if we could find a way to transport her across the country? I mean, I know that it seems like a long-shot...but who knows what could happen if a bunch of RO members put their heads together?

I'm all about helping however I can with transport.

-Mary Ellen
 
Good news for Wendy--it looks like an experienced housebunny person will be picking her up on Friday! They would like more than one bunny, as they had a trio in the past, so once the shelter spays/neuters everyone, they may be back for one of the others. I am so glad I kept posting Wendy!




 
Mia and the other volunteers really deserve the credit. They did a great job with little support and little to no resources. It looks like things may change for the better if the new shelter manager is true to his word.
 
Well, it is a testament to what a couple of people can get done, if they put their minds to it. I am not too eager to pat myself on the back yet, but if we can get six regular bunny-visiting volunteers and a few bunny foster homes in place for the long run, I will at least heave a sigh of relief.

I really think a huge part of the problem was that no one knew the shelter had rabbits, and that the room was so overcrowded it seemed scary even to other shelter volunteers, so people avoided it. Now that things are a bit more under control, it seems less terrifying.

We are getting ready to paint it a pretty color, and that will be a big improvement. I hate beige!


 
Will they let you put anything down on the floor? In case some wants to sit down on the floor to play with a rabbit. Or even a folding chair to sit to hold a rabbit would be nice. Just a suggestion.
 
Nothing on the floor that would mean staff would have to do more than sweep and mop to clean...chairs would be fine I think. Maybe if we got some that were painted a color and we stencilled "Bunny Room" on the back, they wouldn't get moved to another part of the building. Good idea, and will probably result in bunnies getting more exercise.

Thanks, Paula!
 
Maybe some exercise mats (1 or 2) that can be folded or rolled up and put away easily. Also, if the buns have little "accidents" on the mats, they would be easy to clean up. Are you painting on Saturday? I am so tempted to take a train down and help out.
 
A few bits of good news for the PAWS bunnies today:

One is that Flannel and the baby she gave birth to yesterday are doing well. UPenn vets looked at them this afternoon and said they should just be left as is--plenty of hay and water, covered up so no one can bother them.

The vet from UPenn said that they would like to continue to help with the surgeries, so hopefully we will be able to get to the point where rabbits are all spayed/neutered before they get adopted.

She also praised the improvements we've made to the room, meager as they are. She was thrilled to see that the rabbits had hay, for example.

And very importantly, they performed spay and neuter surgeries for all the bunnies who needed it. It turned out that two bunnies were already altered and we didn't know it.

My own boy, Winter, got neutered, too.

I am feeling good about our efforts tonight.

Pikachu's mom, we haven't set a date for painting yet. We have to coordinate with at least two other volunteers as we have to complete the job between 6 pm and 10 pm in one go.

Peace, Mia










Thanks, Pikachus Mom, We haven' t set the date for painting yet. We're working on that next.




 
Keep you the good work. I saw on craigslist that there is an adoption event at the Fairmount Pet Store tomorrow. Besides dogs and cats it mentioned small furries would be available for adoption. Are they taking any of the rabbits?

Flannel and herkitneed to stay together for about 6-8 weeks. That is, hopefully thekit survives. I would suggest someone try to foster them. This would increase the chances of the kit surviving. Less stress on Flannel, too.
 
I'm so glad to hear about Wendy!! Is this a foster home, or a permanent home? And, yes, if there had been a way to get her to me, I would have adopted her in a heart beat!

I'm so glad that the bunny room is improving and some of them are getting foster homes and they're getting hay and toys. Way to make a difference in these bunnies lives!
 
Paula,

I am not sure if that event is one of ours--Saturday is PAWS' Super Adoption Day and I think all of the volunteers will be at the shelter or at the usual Petsmarts. No rabbits are scheduled to go anywhere, that I know of, although I did just get the okay to take them to mobile adoption events.

PAWS is opening a new adoption center in center city Philadelphia, which should be a really nice, though very small facility, and I am going to try to get a rabbit installed there once it is open.
 
I saw the ad on craigslist for the super adoption event. I also saw this ad as well:

http://www.fairmountpetshoppe.com/

One can hope that the rabbits will all get homes. How well do they screen for potential adopters?

Also when Dr. Briscoe was there to do the spays and neuter did she adviseanyone of the potential risks for the anesthesia? Did they give any pain meds post op?
 

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