JadeIcing
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No idea about Macs. I am a windows user and love them. Also I don't want to special order some of my games.
My Mac is tired
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undergunfire
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Macs are expensive, but well worth the money, IMO.
Ryan went with a new HP desktop when we bought our new computers a month or so ago. He wanted the Mac desktop, but it wouldn't have played his million computer games that he has. He likes his desktop, but he had to put $100 into it just after buying it for a new video card.
Ryan went with a new HP desktop when we bought our new computers a month or so ago. He wanted the Mac desktop, but it wouldn't have played his million computer games that he has. He likes his desktop, but he had to put $100 into it just after buying it for a new video card.
Gordon
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LOL, I think there are three general groups of people regarding this issue: You're either part of the Mac cult, or you're steadfastly a Windows user, or you really don't care, as long it works. 
I would say I'm somewhere in between the "I don't care, as long as it works", and the "Cult of Mac".
Had I never gotten a bargain basement deal on this Mac, way back when, I would never have known the pleasure of computing with an Apple. That said, I can't realistically justify paying twice as much or more for a Mac, nowadays. I will eventually do it though, but I can't say it's a wise decision for someone to switch, who's already in love with the Windows machines.
On the other hand, there is also the added perk to the newer Apples that they can run both ways, Windows or Mac OS.
I would say I'm somewhere in between the "I don't care, as long as it works", and the "Cult of Mac".
Had I never gotten a bargain basement deal on this Mac, way back when, I would never have known the pleasure of computing with an Apple. That said, I can't realistically justify paying twice as much or more for a Mac, nowadays. I will eventually do it though, but I can't say it's a wise decision for someone to switch, who's already in love with the Windows machines.
On the other hand, there is also the added perk to the newer Apples that they can run both ways, Windows or Mac OS.
aurora369
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There is one more cult hiding in the basement... The Linux/Unix cult.
I joined them about six months ago, and love it. I run Ubuntu on my Asus netbook, and was running it on my Dell laptop before that. It's faster to install than Windows, works perfectly and I don't have to dig around to try and make things work, they just do. My computer actually runs about twice as fast on Ubuntu as it did with Windows XP.
I would get so mad every time Windows would try to force me to restart. Drove me up the wall because it would always be when I was trying to write a paper or something.
Another great thing about Linux, is its free. I can get a peice of software to do just about anything I want for free. I use Open Office for my word processing, power point, and spread sheets. Works great, and I can save files into excell or word formats if I need to send it to someone working with Microsoft Office.
Oh, and technically, if you are using OSX or a Mac, you are using Unix. OSX is BSD which is a derivative of Unix, and is sometimes refered to as "Berkley Unix". So, all you Mac users can now brag about how you use a very complicated Unix system.
--Dawn
I joined them about six months ago, and love it. I run Ubuntu on my Asus netbook, and was running it on my Dell laptop before that. It's faster to install than Windows, works perfectly and I don't have to dig around to try and make things work, they just do. My computer actually runs about twice as fast on Ubuntu as it did with Windows XP.
I would get so mad every time Windows would try to force me to restart. Drove me up the wall because it would always be when I was trying to write a paper or something.
Another great thing about Linux, is its free. I can get a peice of software to do just about anything I want for free. I use Open Office for my word processing, power point, and spread sheets. Works great, and I can save files into excell or word formats if I need to send it to someone working with Microsoft Office.
Oh, and technically, if you are using OSX or a Mac, you are using Unix. OSX is BSD which is a derivative of Unix, and is sometimes refered to as "Berkley Unix". So, all you Mac users can now brag about how you use a very complicated Unix system.
--Dawn
BethM
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Gordon wrote:
I'm actually in the "I don't care as long as it works" group. I would love to have a Mac. They are well designed, and easy to use. I think they may be the best option for people doing a lot of graphics-heavy stuff, publishing or design or whatnot.
But they do have their drawbacks. As I mentioned, they are way more expensive than they should be for the hardware you get. If I was rich, I would buy one, but I'm not. There are also a lot of programs that just aren't compatible.
For Windows.....They have drawbacks, too. But they're much more affordable. Those trial programs are advertising, whichbrings down the cost of the hardware. Most of them are also easy to upgrade and customize at home. (My husband upgrades his video card every other year, he's a die-hard gamer, and I always get his old one, so my video card is always more than sufficient for what I need.)
I just think Windows gets a bad rap sometimes. Of course, I grew uptyping codefor hours into a Commodor64 to get it to run a tiny little program. Anything's easier than that!
Gordon, can't you get a decent monitor for less than $500? You said a Mini is just the harddrive, but it's still half the price (roughly) of the iMac. If you got that and any monitor that was less than $500, wouldn't you still be saving money?
LOL, I think there are three general groups of people regarding this issue: You're either part of the Mac cult, or you're steadfastly a Windows user, or you really don't care, as long it works.
I'm actually in the "I don't care as long as it works" group. I would love to have a Mac. They are well designed, and easy to use. I think they may be the best option for people doing a lot of graphics-heavy stuff, publishing or design or whatnot.
But they do have their drawbacks. As I mentioned, they are way more expensive than they should be for the hardware you get. If I was rich, I would buy one, but I'm not. There are also a lot of programs that just aren't compatible.
For Windows.....They have drawbacks, too. But they're much more affordable. Those trial programs are advertising, whichbrings down the cost of the hardware. Most of them are also easy to upgrade and customize at home. (My husband upgrades his video card every other year, he's a die-hard gamer, and I always get his old one, so my video card is always more than sufficient for what I need.)
I just think Windows gets a bad rap sometimes. Of course, I grew uptyping codefor hours into a Commodor64 to get it to run a tiny little program. Anything's easier than that!
Gordon, can't you get a decent monitor for less than $500? You said a Mini is just the harddrive, but it's still half the price (roughly) of the iMac. If you got that and any monitor that was less than $500, wouldn't you still be saving money?
irishbunny
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I don't know anything about Mac, but my only problem would be with games, I love the sims and rarely see it for mac so that would drive me crazy, I have a windows XP and ya it has alot of problems, today we had to wipe everything because it was telling us we only had 1 GB of memory when we should have 64 GB, even though we only had a handful of programmes on it. Plus it has to go be repaired because it decided it doesn't like to have a keyboard and a mouse plugged in :rollseyes
We have been using a mouse and keyboard that plugs into the USB, oh and some of our USB ports aren't working either.
We have been using a mouse and keyboard that plugs into the USB, oh and some of our USB ports aren't working either.
Gordon
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aurora369 wrote:
I had some firsthand experience with Unix, many moons ago. The mom n' pop camera shop I was working for, had a retail Point-of-Sale system developed on an NCR-Cobol platform, and I had to figure out some of the code when the main guy in charge of it became ill.
I had some firsthand experience with Unix, many moons ago. The mom n' pop camera shop I was working for, had a retail Point-of-Sale system developed on an NCR-Cobol platform, and I had to figure out some of the code when the main guy in charge of it became ill.
Gordon
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BethM wrote:
I remember in high school, a computer course, called BASIC. That was my first introduction to computers, but it didn't seem very sexy to me, so I didn't do well in that class, lol. --I just didn't see the point of computers back in 1982. Bill Gates and Steve Jobs did, though!!
The Mac Mini is an option, but I'm not waiting just to save money. I'm just sort of a crusty old guy who insists on squeezing the last drop out of everything, and when I truly need to buy a new machine, I will want the latest and greatest, full Mac.
I remember in high school, a computer course, called BASIC. That was my first introduction to computers, but it didn't seem very sexy to me, so I didn't do well in that class, lol.
--I just didn't see the point of computers back in 1982. Bill Gates and Steve Jobs did, though!!The Mac Mini is an option, but I'm not waiting just to save money. I'm just sort of a crusty old guy who insists on squeezing the last drop out of everything, and when I truly need to buy a new machine, I will want the latest and greatest, full Mac.
pinksalamander
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Macmacmac all the way, even for the price tag it worth it.
kirbyultra
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aurora369 wrote:
Dawn,
It's sad but when I see BSD the first thing I think of the Windows Blue Screen of Death.h34r2
And yet I am still a Windows fan. I am in BethM's world - I tinker as well with it and I like just the way it is. I am also skipping Vista. I don't know what a Mac is. I saw the single button mouse and just froze up, didn't know what to do :?
I bought an iphone because it has an awesome camviewer that allows me to view my bunny webcam anytime, anywhere. Other than my iPhone, I don't use any Apple products... can't say that they are bad or anything, I just never crossed to that side to try it enough to like it.
Dawn,
It's sad but when I see BSD the first thing I think of the Windows Blue Screen of Death.
h34r2And yet I am still a Windows fan. I am in BethM's world - I tinker as well with it and I like just the way it is. I am also skipping Vista. I don't know what a Mac is. I saw the single button mouse and just froze up, didn't know what to do :?
I bought an iphone because it has an awesome camviewer that allows me to view my bunny webcam anytime, anywhere. Other than my iPhone, I don't use any Apple products... can't say that they are bad or anything, I just never crossed to that side to try it enough to like it.
JadeIcing
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kirbyultra wrote:
LOL You sound like me. iPhone and iPods thats the most for me.
aurora369 wrote:
Dawn,
It's sad but when I see BSD the first thing I think of the Windows Blue Screen of Death.
And yet I am still a Windows fan. I am in BethM's world - I tinker as well with it and I like just the way it is. I am also skipping Vista. I don't know what a Mac is. I saw the single button mouse and just froze up, didn't know what to do :?
I bought an iphone because it has an awesome camviewer that allows me to view my bunny webcam anytime, anywhere. Other than my iPhone, I don't use any Apple products... can't say that they are bad or anything, I just never crossed to that side to try it enough to like it.
LOL You sound like me. iPhone and iPods thats the most for me.
Hazel-Mom
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Gordon wrote:
They pack their products really well, never had a problem.
Plus they have warranty, and if you have any problems, you can go to the nearest Apple store for help. The customer service for the refurbs is just as good as for the new ones.
Warranty is shorter, but you can still buy the prolonged service pack for them.
Having bought 3 refurb Macs from them now (ours, and each of the kids a laptop for college), plus a few ipods, I can definitely say I trust them
They pack their products really well, never had a problem.
Plus they have warranty, and if you have any problems, you can go to the nearest Apple store for help. The customer service for the refurbs is just as good as for the new ones.
Warranty is shorter, but you can still buy the prolonged service pack for them.
aurora369
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kirbyultra wrote:
And Gordon, that is pretty impressive! I may run linux, but I just plug and play, no playing under the hood for me.
--Dawn
I believe you are thinking of BSOD not quite the same as BSDDawn,
It's sad but when I see BSD the first thing I think of the Windows Blue Screen of Death.
And yet I am still a Windows fan. I am in BethM's world - I tinker as well with it and I like just the way it is. I am also skipping Vista. I don't know what a Mac is. I saw the single button mouse and just froze up, didn't know what to do :?
I bought an iphone because it has an awesome camviewer that allows me to view my bunny webcam anytime, anywhere. Other than my iPhone, I don't use any Apple products... can't say that they are bad or anything, I just never crossed to that side to try it enough to like it.
And Gordon, that is pretty impressive! I may run linux, but I just plug and play, no playing under the hood for me.
--Dawn
kirbyultra
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Yep BSOD. Just the letters triggeredthat thought in my head. The irony when we are weighing in windows and Mac
Boz
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Thanks to my the schools here, I very much dislike Macs.
They are extremely slow and everything takes forever to do!
I do realize part of that is the server, BUT we have PCs on the same server that load everything 2..3..4+ times faster then the Macs. Going to the Computer Lab to work (on macs) is often times a joke. It take 10 minutes just to login and then another 5 to load up Safari!!
I also do not like the fact that there's no right click.
However, I do love Apple's iPods. I got the 1st Gen iPod Nano and it's still works as if it were brand new. Now I have the 2nd Gen iPod Touch and I LOVE it! If I could get the iPhone I would! :biggrin2:
They are extremely slow and everything takes forever to do!
I do realize part of that is the server, BUT we have PCs on the same server that load everything 2..3..4+ times faster then the Macs. Going to the Computer Lab to work (on macs) is often times a joke. It take 10 minutes just to login and then another 5 to load up Safari!!
I also do not like the fact that there's no right click.
However, I do love Apple's iPods. I got the 1st Gen iPod Nano and it's still works as if it were brand new. Now I have the 2nd Gen iPod Touch and I LOVE it! If I could get the iPhone I would! :biggrin2:
Gordon
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The "e" on my keyboard started sticking a few days ago. My iMac's monitor's cathode ray tube is getting dimmer. It's time. I'm just not ready.
Hazel-Mom
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You'll love your new Mac once you get it, though
Gordon
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Hazel-Mom wrote:
Well, I hopefully will. I've decided that when Snow Leopard is officially released and starts shipping with the new Macs, I'm going to seriously look into it. I will go to the local Mac store, and ask them if they can transfer my old Mac's "stuff" into the new one.
I'm really concerned about my old Outlook Express mail. I'll happily move on to whatever mail program I should be using, but I want my 2 Gigs of old email to transfer over, along with my address book.
Has anyone had any experience transferring old Outlook email on a Mac OS 9 platform, into a Mac OS X email client?
You'll love your new Mac once you get it, though
Well, I hopefully will. I've decided that when Snow Leopard is officially released and starts shipping with the new Macs, I'm going to seriously look into it. I will go to the local Mac store, and ask them if they can transfer my old Mac's "stuff" into the new one.
I'm really concerned about my old Outlook Express mail. I'll happily move on to whatever mail program I should be using, but I want my 2 Gigs of old email to transfer over, along with my address book.
Has anyone had any experience transferring old Outlook email on a Mac OS 9 platform, into a Mac OS X email client?
Hazel-Mom
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Never used Outlook, but I transfered Netscape email to Mac Mail with no problems.
