My Heart's on Fire for Elvira

[Katielovesleo3]

What happened with the cat now? Lol

 

[Chrisdoc]

A lot of catching up and the cabinet sounds great, don´t understand this about the wire and hardware cloth but can´t wait to see it when it´s finished.

Your rooster sounds so funny, I bet he´s a fair size so I´d be scared too but he sounds so sweet when he´s protective of his hen...men uffff.

A netbook, that´s what I was telling my friend she should get to start off as she only wants to check the internet and her mail and look at photos from her camera/card so she doesn´t really need to spend more getting anything more complicated.

I´m not a fan of PS3 or Xbox or that stuff, have never understood the fascination for all these games although I´ve had friends who spend hours playing.

Bet your garden looks great in full bloom, I miss having a garden although I´m really crap at gardening and keeping flowers, I have black fingers, yes every just dies. I´ve tried planters on my terrace a few times but it´s either too hot or too wet and I have to keep replacing them so I gave up. But I love seeing loads of flowers and colour and I love a vegetable garden. My friend in the country has loads of veggies and fruit trees and I love going up there to see what I get in my bag this time haha.

I have adoption places on my facebook but have never seen roosters, other weird animals yes. I see all the rabbits though so it´s a good job I don´t live in the UK or I´d have so many you wouldn´t be able to get into the house. They have rehomed loads of the ones that I loved so it´s always good when they do the updates on that as I get so happy that they´re finding someone to love them and care for them :bunnydance:

 

[whitelop]

What happened with the cat now? Lol

AHHH the cat. Well, last night, I was laying in the floor, my husband was on the couch and my son was running around. Then I saw my cat go behind the rocking chair. I didn't think much of it, until...I smelled poop. I sat up and there was poop! I flipped out! I grabbed the cat and as I headed to the kitchen there was a trail of liquid coming from under the couch! She peed under the couch! I was red hot, I was so mad. I could see red! I hate them all so much.

Then last night I was sitting in the floor with Ellie and I was doing something. My cat was eating and doing whatever. I looked over and she had pooped next to my island in the kitchen! I was like WTF?! She had been outside for HOURS! Ugh. I told my husband I was going to put them in the kennel.
I wonder if thats cruel, to put them in there? I'm so sick of it though. The one that went to the bathroom in the living room is the really old one. But she did it in the middle of everything! I mean, we were IN the living room! AHHHH. I could have pulled my hair out.

 

[agnesthelion]

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[whitelop]

Here is Smokey Big Cat. She's sitting on a fence post in front of our barn. This picture is WAY messed up. Its two pictures in one, which is really strange. I don't know how that happened. I just thought it hadn't loaded all the way, but I was wrong, it loaded wrong! hahaha, weird!

Here's Ellie with a 6 pack box, she's almost as big as the box! haha.

Here is a picture of Foo that I found. She was flopped out in her cage. Look at her dewlap!

I just realized that I haven't taken any recent pictures of Ellie. I'll take some later today after I clean up her cage area and her corner. Then I post some of them. It was a real pain in the ass to get the pictures onto the computer and into the right file of the googledrive. I'm a little irritated with this. I guess its because I don't know how to work everything and I'm just trying to figure it all out.
So more pictures to come, these were just a few I thought I would share.

 

[whitelop]

Ewww that sucks Morgan. Cat pee and poop is gross. I wonder what is going on with your kitties! They just don't seem to want to go outside or in a litterbox. UHg that has to be frustrating.
I'm not sure what the kennel is but I doubt it would be cruel. Like I've mentioned before, my sister had to limit her cats free run to just one room to get hers to go in the litterbox again. Can you "lock" them in a bathroom or some sort of space with a litterbox to see if they would start going in the litter again? I wish I had other suggestions. I don't do well with animals peeing in my house. It's not something o would put up with for too long so I don't blame you for your frustration.

Like put them in a dog crate. haha. Confine them to that when they were in the house and make them go outside otherwise. Because I'm pretty sure that I can't handle much more. Its making me crazy and I can feel my blood pressure rising. Its totally gross and embarrassing and I have too much other stuff to do then clean up after cats all the time. I'm just so sick of it. They're old and I don't know what to do with them. I feel bad leaving them out when its cold, but now I'm to the point where I don't really care because they can go in the shed. And if they're outside then they can't use the bathroom in my house. They've even stopped using Ellie's litter box. AHHH. ullhair:

Ugh, now that I've spent half the day trying to figure out how to get pictures on this little computer, I have to do some stuff. Ellie's cage and corner aren't going to clean themselves, but god do I wish they could! And its BATHROOM DAY! :bunnydance:

 

[JBun]

If I had cats pooping in the house, they would be banished to the great outdoors for a while. I like cats but can't stand cat poop.

Awww, cute Foo She looks like my chunky lop, Dakota. She's got that big ole dew lap too.

Ellie just looks soo big! She's grown up so much. She's probably bigger than Roo now. I think he's still under 2 lbs., but I guess that isn't surprising since dutch are a bit bigger than hotots.

 

[whitelop]

Ellie just got her new toy in the mail! How exciting. It looks pretty cool and I hope she's able to figure it out!
My son is throwing a tantrum right now because he thinks the toy is for him but I won't let him have it. He's being really silly. I tell him it isn't his and he screams at me. Ugh. Kids and cats, I want to put them all outside. Its nap time for the child though!

I'm going to put my son down for a nap and see if Ellie is willing to play with her toy! I might try to get it on video.

 

[JBun]

Lol, just sit your son and Ellie down together, and see who can figure it out first

 

[Chrisdoc]

Cats are not my favourites. I remember when my sister´s cat got old and it couldn´t manage to get to it´s litter tray every time, it drove her mad. I think I´d throw it out as well as long as it´s got somewhere it can go for shelter.

I can´t wait to see Ellie playing with her new toy. I bet she´ll get the hang of it in not time, she´s such a smartie pants. That´s so funny your son wanting it, sometimes I´m glad I don´t have kids, it must be such hard work. Yes, put them together and see who works it out first lol.

What a lovely Foo photo, I always love to look at the photo of her and Ellie together on the first page.

You´ll get the hang of the computer after you´ve had it a few days. I hate them sometimes when they don´t do what you want them to do. Sometimes, I wish you could just talk to them and tell them what to do, how easy would that be...I´m sure that some day, your kids will all be doing that.

 

[agnesthelion]

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[whitelop]

That makes me think of my friends parents house. They bought this big house, its nice. In one of those big nice neighborhoods. They have two dogs that aren't house trained, even though they're like 6 years old. They picked the living room to use the bathroom, its carpet. They've been peeing and pooping on the carpet steadily for like 5 years and its terrible. The smell when you walk in the house is so much that it almost knocks you over. The carpet is like 10 shades darker than it once was. There is padding under the carpet and then concrete under the padding, I can imagine there is a puddle of pee on the concrete slab under where they pee. Its disgusting. I can't even go to their house because the smell is so bad, if I go I have to leave my son home because I don't want him walking around on that carpet. Its like a $300,000 house that they've totally destroyed because they won't make their dogs go outside. Yuck.
Sometimes I wish I just had a herd of rabbits. That would be better for me. Like, if I could bond 6 rabbits together and they could live in my house like a happy little colony, I would be SO happy.

Seeing pictures of Foo makes me a little sad too, but she looked pretty happy. I do miss her terribly though. :hearts:

I think Ellie is looking a little thin. Her ribs and her spine still feel 'coated' but she just looks skinny. Do babies reach a stage where they haven't filled out yet? Or should I be feeding her more? I haven't been feeding her a mass amount of greens or anything, I give her a few small handfuls a day. It equals out to like 1 and a 1/2 leaves of romaine. Half a cup of pellets a day and all the hay she can eat. BUT she does spend so much time out of her cage, she gets a lot of exercise. I just worry she looks a little too thin, but I could be paranoid. hahaha. Should I feed her more pellets or more greens? I think more greens.

 

[Chrisdoc]

Morgan, that´s like my friend´s apartment. She has four dogs and hardly ever takes them out as it´s too much to take them all at once...uhhhh take them out in two walks. They pee and poop on her downstairs terrace but although she cleans it, it soaks through the tiling as they are porous and it stinks. They also pee and poop in the house, up the sofa, curtains, everywhere. I used to go there more often but now the smell just makes me gag. When you come of the lift towards the front door and she opens it, it´s like something terrible hitting your sense of smell. I have to hold my breath to go in the door. You can´t say anything either as they just don´t smell it. She´s just wanting to see if she can sell it. I can´t imagine anyone even going through the front door. I can so imagine your face when you get to the house, it is a bit disgusting cos I always think that you´re walking the dirt all over the house.

Ellie looks great, about the same build as Houdini and same shape. I think she´s probably hyper like him so she burns off a lot. He eats around two small egg cups of pellets a day, loads of hay and not so many veggies but I use a tupperware container to feed them. the bottom bit for the two together and the lid for Houdini. I usually fill it with a variety twice a day but he´s a bit fussier than the other two and doesn´t always finish his. You can feed her more greens if she´ll have them.

Have you weighed her yet ??? It would be interesting to see how much she weighs, I want to do a comparison with mine.

 

[JBun]

I have to be careful and not become the crazy bunny lady, and have a stinky house cause of all my rabbits. I clean every day, but with 10 rabbits, that's alot of pee and poop. Luckily since switching over to the sherwood food, the ammonia pee odor is almost non existent. Have you noticed that with Ellie's litter box at all? It's so nice. I still clean every day but now it's hardly smelly when I go to clean.

One thing I'll let you know about feeding the sherwood food, is that I'm now feeding my rabbits close to unlimited pellets, even the adults, and there's a reason why. You know how on their feeding instructions they suggest to free feed. Well we all thought that they just wanted us feeding more pellets so that we would buy more pellets. Well it turns out I think they weren't exaggerating their feeding instructions. About 3 weeks ago when I was still feeding limited pellets, I noticed that Dakota's hind end looked funny, so I looked at her closer and noticed that she seemed to have lost weight, and on her hind end she had chewed out a whole patch of fur. Not just pulled some out, but actually chewed the hair down to the skin. I was a little concerned. She's my oldest rabbit at 7, so I thought it might be that she was maybe having some arthritis issues and was chewing back there because of some pain. But in researching hair chewing I found that it can also happen with a magnesium deficiency. I wondered if limiting the pellets was causing her to not get enough nutrients. So I increased her and Flopsy's feed to almost free feeding levels. I cut it a little short just cause if there are pellets left at feeding time, then it makes it easier for me to know if someone isn't eating and might have an upset stomach. So after about 3 weeks of the increased pellet amounts, she looks like she's put some weight back on, around her back and spine doesn't look so boney, and she's stopped chewing her fur and it is growing back in. Now, she had never in all her 7 years, done anything like this, even when she pulled fur for nesting before she got spayed, and I know it couldn't be Flopsy, as he would never dare touch her hind end or she would take a chunk out of him. So, with you asking if you should feed more, I would suggest that you do. If you don't free feed, then feed enough that she is just running out of pellets an hour or two before the next feeding time. My rabbit's don't eat much hay now, but they still eat a small handful morning and night. So.... there you go, that's what I learned. I didn't change anything else with her or give her anything else new, so I'm almost absolutely certain it was the pellets. One of my babies also started chewing fur, so just too much of a coincidence.

 

[Katielovesleo3]

Lol, yay Rabbit Colony! That would make me happy too.

My dad kicked out our cat over a year ago, when it's cold he goes in the shed I have a heat lamp in there for him. He used to try getting in the door but eventually got used to it. Sometimes other animals eat his food (the stumpy bandit, and dumba$$ dog next door) so we put it higher or in a different place. He only comes in now to get his medicine and grabs a piece of dog food on the way out. One time when I was a kid my cat Bear (who loved to pee) peed on our sofa, on sometimes bed, and finally on the clothes...in the dryer! :0 my dad wanted to kill him. Lol. I don't think it's cruel to put em in a kennel. I would too. That or kick them out completely...

 

[whitelop]

I think I'll start to feed her more. Its just in the last few days that it seems like she's lost a little weight. She seems to be bigger so maybe her weight just hasn't caught up yet or something. I feed her 1/2 cup to 3/4 cup a day, sometimes I forget what I've fed her. I think I will start to feed her more then. She's still eating hay pretty good, but I've noticed that she is eating a lot of pellets. I wonder if she just likes them that much or if its because she's hungry and even with eating hay she isn't getting filled up. Hmm. I'll add another scoop to her daily dose and see if that helps. I would rather her be a little fat then too thin. Thanks for sharing your food findings Jenny. I'll start feeding her more. I've noticed with the hay, if it gets trampled down in her litter box, she doesn't want to eat it. She likes fresh new hay and 'different' hay. haha. I put a handful of hay in a little box last night and she was really excited about the 'different and new' hay. haha. Silly girl.

Also, I've noticed her scratching a lot. Her ears and her face area. I don't know if its because she's dry because we have such a dry heat and its cold in there or if it could be something else. I can't see inside of her ears, but the bases of her ears don't feel warm or anything. I hope it isn't mites, that would piss me off. Should I just call the vet and see if I can get a tube of kitten revolution, just to be on the save side? Or do rabbits just do a lot of scratching.

What do ear infections in cats smell like? My cat was laying with me today on the couch and her ear smelled really weird. Like, I got a wiff of something strange, so I smelled around and it was coming from her ear. Its like, a sort of dead smell? I wonder if she has something going on with her ears. Two cats got mites a few months ago and I treated them for them, they went away. I wonder if there is something else going on with her ear. Its only one cat. Ughh, they're all killing me. Like taking years from my life. They had mites like 4 months before Ellie got here, so I don't think they could have passed the mites on to her, since I got them cured and cleared. I think if Ellie DOES have mites, they came from that nasty-ass pet store.

 

[JBun]

My rabbits all scratch their ears every now and then, but if it seems like Ellie is doing it a lot, it could be mites or an ear infection. Sometimes with mites you'll see some dirty looking stuff in the ear. I would think the cats stinky ear would be an ear infection, or just gunk in there. Maybe you could take them both in at the same time to get checked, and it wouldn't cost you any more to have 2 pets checked.

 

[whitelop]

Ugh, its just the ACT of taking them both to the vet. Grrr. The unfortunate part of it is that, Ellie will go to a different vet than my normal pets. My normal vet cuts me a deal on everything, that what happens when you go to the same vet for 20 years. And Ellie's vet is one of the best rabbit vets around, so either that would be a long day of vet clinics or two days. Sucks either way. Good thing about Ellie's vet is, its only like 25 minutes down the road, the normal vet is like an hour.

I'll look in Ellie's ear and see if I see anything. I looked at the medi-vet website on their ear mite things, but it doesn't look like Ellie is displaying any of the early signs. I wish I had one of those things you use to look inside the ears, that would be awesome. Now my ears are itching. Ew.

 

[JBun]

You know it might not be anything. She may just have something tickling her down in there. I would just keep an eye on it and if she seems to be itching it more after a while, then maybe take her in.

 

[Katielovesleo3]

Also, I've noticed her scratching a lot. Her ears and her face area. I don't know if its because she's dry because we have such a dry heat and its cold in there or if it could be something else. I can't see inside of her ears, but the bases of her ears don't feel warm or anything. I hope it isn't mites, that would piss me off. Should I just call the vet and see if I can get a tube of kitten revolution, just to be on the save side? Or do rabbits just do a lot of scratching.

Buster has been itching a lot around faces eyes ears area. I wonder this too! :/