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I guess maybe I should update about Ellie too! haha. I let her out of her cage just a little bit ago and she did some freedom binkies. She was pretty happy to be out of the cage. The only reason she was caged yesterday is because I was at the expo and my husband went over to his moms with our son. So no one was home for a large portion of the day. Poor Ellie. She went from being out of the cage for 48 hours straight to being cooped up for 12 hours, with a 4 hour out then in for the night.
Now she is in her favorite corner to take an all day nap. She sleeps the majority of the day and is up ALL night.

When I walked in and she had her back legs stretched out behind her, she stayed that way until I sat down then she came up to me. I think she is definitely more comfortable with me. I hope I can get more pictures of her flopped out like that! Its so funny.

Excuse me, I was wrong earlier, Blue doesn't want orange juice, she wants milk with her snack. I misheard a clue. Ugh. I hate this show, in the amount of time it took for Blue to leave all the clues, she could have just said she wanted freaking milk.

I don't think that Ellie is growing anymore! hahah. To me she doesn't look like she's grown any in a week or so. Her ears are bigger but thats about it. What happens if she stays as small as she is? haha. I don't think it would happen, but she seems so have slowed down in the growing.
 
Hahaha that sounds like it looks hilarious! She's probably as big as Monty's head :p A little bit of paper is probably fine, even for a small bunny. Monty goes all out eating bits of paper and cardboard all the time (never an amount larger than a couple square inches in a sitting). She has eaten all four corners off the paper with instructions for assembling her carrier, rendering it pretty much useless :p
 
I could totally see Monty having a tiny friend someday. I joke with my boyfriend about bonding her with a tiny lionhead boy or similar :p Not that I'd do it just for novelty, but you can't deny how cute it would be for her to have a little fluff laying on her back. *snicker* Oh I love my giant girl :)
 
Read your post on the exhibition and on Ellie. Good thing you have fun yesterday and thank god the wine was there to "save" you. Didn't you feel nausea after all that cake? Everytime I eat too many sweets, I feel nauseated but I suppose that's when I know I've eaten too many :p lol

Last night I was showing my sister pictures of Ellie and my lord she has grown, but I don't think she will grow too much more if at all. I completely missed a picture of her on her cardboard castle, it is SO cute!! She's such a doll! You certainly make a lot of posts and if I'm not on here everyday I miss a lot !!
 
Missy, i totally pictured Monty spooning with a nethie or something tiny like that. It made me chuckle. Lmao.

Michelle, yes i do post a lot. Lol, too much probably! ;) Yes i stopped eating cake after like the 5th sample. I had only had a coffee thing and a redbull that morning. I ate some steak kabobs and felt much better. Then wine, more steak kabobs and i was great! I probably won't eat anymore cake until the wedding though!

I sort of hope Ellie doesn't get any bigger. I wonder if she'll stay on the smaller side.
 
She probably will!

Monty with a small bun would be adorable! I always love seeing dramatically different sized animals play together! Lady came in with a mini chihuahua and said that her dogs best friend at doggy daycare was the biggest dog there! I could only picture that it must be adorable :)
 
Good job there was wine on hand, that solves anything. Too much cake would make me feel sick but a couple of tastes would be nice.

I think Ellie will be quite small, maybe like Snowy or Houdini, they´re average is around just over a kilo. Houdini is doing his Binky 500s right now in his enclosure, end up with stuff thrown everywhere lol. He´s a paper eater as well, loves ripping the cardboard on the top of his cage and snacks on the telephone directory but he´s been OK so far, touch wood.

Would love to see some photos of the area you live in, places always look so different over there so I will be looking forward to them. Have just had a piece of carrot cake I made yesterday, I must say myself that it was yummy and great with a nice cup of tea.:clapping:
 
The expo did sound busy and crazy but like I said, wine makes anything better :) when is your friends wedding by the way? I'm assuming she is having like a big she-bang since she went to an expo? My wedding was about 170 people. It was SO fun. We had the reception on the top floor of a hotel here. Lots of dancing, lots of wine (haha, here we go again with the wine) next to mynson being born it was the best day of my life.

My MIL looooves SC. She's been to Charlotte and just raves about it. I've been all over the US but never there, for whatever reason. But I would love to visit. Does Charlotte have those grand southern homes with wrap around terraces and such? So pretty!!

Ellie is just too cute for words. It kinda makes me laugh to think of her nipping you and getting "attitude" when she's so little and adorable! I'll be curious how much bigger she will get too. Agnes has surprised me a bit with her size. Course her fur makes he look even bigger but when I pick her up she feels so much plumper than I thought she would be. Course she spoiled and gets blueberries and bananas so it could be my fault.

Anyway, I'm cleaning house today and meant to just check in on RO and here I am still on. Story of my life. I'll be back later but glad to hear the updatebwith the expo and hear about Ellie:)
 
I'm glad it wasn't me at the expo, but it sounds like you guys had a good time and made the most of it.

Sounds like Ellie is through her big growth spurt. What is she, about 12 weeks now? That's about when my bunnies stopped growing so fast and just grew more gradually after that. She'll still grow some, just more slowly. I know the average dutch weight is similar to a hollands, but Ellie may end up being on the smaller end since she started out soooo small. Of course, I thought that about Roo, and now he's as big as the other bunnies. In any case, she'll always be a cutie :)
 
I think Ellie will probably be around the size of Snowy, maybe just around a kilo. Look at the baby pictures of mine, I thought of Ellie and those first days and how small she was. It is amazing how quickly they change. The pictures I took as babies were just a week after I got them and then when I took photos 5 weeks later, you could really tell the difference in size, ears, etc. By then, they´d got to the size they probably stayed at, maybe filled out a little more. Looking back at the photos, I´d forgotten about that tiny stage and how adorable they were. Ellie is just so sweet, I think I need another fix :bunnyheart
 
I think Ellie may already weigh more than Snowy! haha. A kilo is like 2.2 lbs, roughly. I think she weighs around 2 lbs. She doesn't look that big, but when you pick her up she has some heft to her! hahaha. The dutch breed standard is like 3.5-5.5 lbs, so I think she'll probably stay some where around the 3.5 lb range. She could surprise me and get huge or something! haha.

I need to put some pictures up. I haven't taken any of her in a few days. I might do that later this evening, but you guys don't hold your breath for it! hahah.

The other day when I cleaned out Ellie's cage, I moved her elephant stuffie out of the box, because she's bigger now and it takes up a lot of room in the box. I put it so she could still get into the corner she likes. I've noticed the last few days, that she hasn't really been sleeping in her box now, she is sleeping in the corner of the cage next to the elephant. Its like she likes to sleep next to the elephant, no matter where it is. I didn't realize she liked it that much or had any sort of attachment to it. I put it back in her box after I change the blanket and it just stays where I put it. Its still in the same place that I put it in the cage, she hasn't messed with, only laid next to it. She is sleeping in the box at night though, I guess because its cold or something. But she takes up a lot of the box now! When I got her, she fit in a corner and now she lays in it and takes up most of the box. haha. She's definitely getting bigger!

She is off the kaytee pellets. She doesn't seem to mind the Sherwood that much. She eats a good amount of pellets. But I won't say that she is "completely" off the kaytee, I still give her like 3 pellets to get her into her cage at night. haha. I let her sniff them and drop them into her bowl loudly enough that she knows they're there and she goes right in! hahaha. One day she'll probably catch on, but until then, its an easy way to get her into her cage at night!

The other night I said something about her playing fetch with me with the dog food. I didn't really talk about what she was doing, I was on my phone and its so hard to type anything out on my phone, my keyboard gets delayed, blah blah. Anyway. I was sitting against the washing machine and I had been there for a while. She went to the dog food bowl, sniffed it and then took a piece. I was a little shocked. She walked up to me and I grabbed the piece from her mouth, she let me take it. I threw it back into the bowl and she waited a minute, then went back and took another piece. Same thing, she let me take it. I threw it back and she went and got another piece! She did it like 5 times, then she got bored. I wonder if she was really playing fetch or if she just really wanted to eat a piece of dog food? I think if she wanted to eat it she would have gone the other direction and not come up TO me. Foo would run across the kitchen with a kibble in her mouth just to eat it! haha.

So yesterday I went to the feed store and bought two 40 lbs bags of pelleted pine litter. Thats like a years worth of litter! haha. I bought so much because the feed store I go to is getting out of the feed business and they're just going to be selling horse tack and consigning tack. (I might actually consign my saddle, but thats another story) So I don't know how long they'll have the pine pellets left. I don't know if they'll order more of those. The cool thing about them is, they call me once a month and ask me if I need chicken feed and put me on the order list if I do, I just have to go in and pay then pick up. They have like 6 personal horses and they have to order feed every 2 weeks.
I asked her when the first cut hay should be coming in and she said anywhere from late March to early May. Thats the rye hay that grows in the winter. I don't know if I should get a bale of rye or not. Can she even have rye? The coastal I have is yellowing and I'll need a green bale soon enough. But I don't know if I should get the rye when it comes in or wait until like...June or July, and get the first cut OTHER grass hay. I guess it depends on what she gets, or I could go somewhere else. Hmmm decisions decisions. I talked to a lady yesterday who was giving hay to her horses, she had the greenest hay I've seen this time of year. I forgot where she told me she got it, but it was GREEN! She paid like 4.50 a bale, thats pretty good and it looked great. Its hard to find green hay this time of year.

I'm having a really hard time with my cats. They're slowly killing me. I feel my hair graying because of them right now. Okay, as you guys may know. I don't have cat litter boxes, because my cats didn't use them. I haven't had litter boxes in almost a year. One would use them and the other two would not. Pain in my ass. They go outside during the day for a while to go potty, then come back in to nap. I put them out at night to potty and sometimes they stay out all night or sometimes they come in. So now, they're using Ellie's big litter box, thats outside her cage! Its MAKING ME NUTS! What doesn't make any sense to me, is when I actually had CAT litter boxes I used the same sort of litter. I used store brand feline pine. Same thing as the horse stall pellets. The only thing that is different NOW is that the litter in most of the box is covered in hay. I think the cats like the hay. Its like they didn't like the pine pellets and they like the nice grassy feel of the hay, so they're using the hay to crap in. I'm not happy at all. Every morning when I go in there is cat poop in the litter box. I have to change it all the time. I'm going through a lot of hay and a lot more litter! As much hay as I have, I don't want to run out or anything. And the litter box is bigger anyway so I'm already using more litter.
PLUS, I don't think Ellie being around cat poop is okay. Cat poop is DISGUSTING! To me, I think of rabbit and horse poop as being 'clean' poop, since they only eat grass/hay and veggies. Cats and dogs on the other hand eat meat and processed food, their poop is gross. It doesn't help or fertilize anything. Sorry for the gross poop talk.
I just don't really know what to do to get them to stop going in the rabbits litter box. I guess I need to put it on top of Ellie's cage at night or somewhere they can't get to it. But one night, one of my cats actually WENT INTO ELLIE'S CAGE AND POOPED IN HER CAGE LITTER BOX! Can you guys believe that?! I was freaking shocked.
Ughh, I sort of just don't like cats anymore. I mean, I love my cats, but once they die off I'll probably never get another cat. If I ever get anymore animals, they'll be rabbits. haha. Instead of the being the crazy cat lady like everyone predicted, I'll be the crazy rabbit lady! They definitely wouldn't test my patience like a cat does.

Last thing, I force loved Ellie again last night. My husband and I started watching Sons of Anarchy, since we don't have cable we've missed it all, but now we have the netflix we can watch it from the beginning. Its a great show, if you love the violence and stuff like we do. But we wait until after my son is in bed to watch it(we watch Parenthood while he's up, haha.) But I didn't feel like sitting in the kitchen, even though I can see the tv from there. So I went and got Ellie and put her in my robe and sat with her in my robe/top of my tank top for like 30ish minutes; until she got a little antsy and I put her back in the kitchen. She did pretty well. Her little nails are SUPER sharp though. She also smells a little weird. haha. Her fur is so soft, because its baby fur. I wonder when she'll molt? I think she'll have 'fall back' fur? Is that what its called, when you rub it one way and it falls back to where it was?

Anyway, I'm done now. I've rambled on quite a bit today. Last, last thing! hahaha. I started taking my vitamins again today, I needed to. I'm having a hard time this winter. Its been raining for a few days now and I'm like totally wiped out. My son got the second part of his flu shot yesterday and he took a LONG nap, from like 12-3ish. I took the same nap with him! I slept that long in the middle of the day! Then I fell asleep on the couch at like 10. I've been sleeping way too much and I'm still so tired! I think its lack of vitamin D, sunshine and heat. I hate it. I can't wait for it to be 112* outside, that will be really nice! I can't wait to get my hands dirty in the yard and get a serious tank top farmers tan, because it happens every year! haha. I'm doing a super garden this year and I'm so excited to get out there and do it! So when I actually go to sleep at night, it will be because I'm exhausted from manual labor not just from lack of sunlight! lmao.

Now, I'm done. Happy Wednesday! And yes, I did just write a book.
 
Last, last, last thing! haha.
When can I start to give Ellie greens? According to the pet store, she should be about 12 1/2 weeks right now. But I still have this sneaking suspicion that she is younger, I could be wrong though. haha.
I wonder if I could start giving her stuff now? Her stomach seems to be pretty good, she's never had an issue with anything so far.

Any thoughts?
 
Wow you did write a lot but loved it all. Those cheeky cats using Ellie´s litter tray. It´s always the same with animals, the grass is always greener on the other say or should I say the hay, if you see what I mean lol. And yes, cat poop is disgusting and smelly. I´ve never had a cat but both my sister and my friend have them and it stinks. Don´t know what your options are unless Ellie turns into a Kung Fu Rabbit and scares the **** out of them lmao.

Wish I could get a bag of pellets that big. I can only get 10 litres at the moment which is nothing. And hay, I must really make an effort to find a local supplier here, I feel lazy that I haven´t done that yet.

Imagine Ellie letting you cuddle her that long, you lucky girl. Mine like to be cuddled for a very short while and then they´re off. If she gets to weigh 3llb, she´ll be about the size of Bandy. I thought mine were about average at 2 to 2 1/2 lb. Yes, pics would be lovely, haven´t see one of her for ages :missyou Ellie
 
I started giving Monty nibbles of lettuce at 3 months. Just a piece the size of a spoon (the bowl part) to start with, and when that didn't give her soft poo I would include it with her pellets twice a day. A couple weeks later, I tried both pieces at the same time. Still no soft poo. I worked my way up to one whole leaf of green leaf twice a day at 4 months. She's bigger, but I was going by an article's suggestion that baby bunnies could be introduced to new greens a teaspoon at a time per (forgot how many pounds of weight, but Monty was way over that already). I'm pretty sure she was given a little bit of romaine when she was still at the pet store, because they always have it around for the resident tortoise, and when I took her to get her nails trimmed at about 4 months, they were looking around for a treat to give her and had a fresh bag of romaine, and gave her a hunk of it. They seem to really know their stuff with their animals, and they love seeing Monty :)
 
I might get a bunch of cilantro and try that first. Cilantro was always Foo's favorite and I hope its Ellie's too. Its my most favorite smell in the world!
 
That´s their fave too. I managed to get an enormous bunch yesterday a the market for 1€, though that was really good as it usually costs me more for a smaller tray at the supermarket. He also gave me a smaller bunch of parsley free, I bought beetroot with the leaves and he gave me loads of assorted leaves he´d taken off the veg that people didn´t want so it was quite a cheap shop and I´ve now got a fridge stuffed full of their stuff....what´s new lol.

I think you could start Ellie on just a little to see what she enjoys. Maybe the cilantro and other fresh herbs as they seem to be really good for them and try green leaves bit by bit. You keep a good eye on her so you´ll know if they´d don´t agree.
 
I'm so glad someone else loves the smell of cilantro. Everyone thinks I'm weird because I think it smells SO good. My roommate says all it's fit for is being left in a sealed bag until the rabbit consumes it so he doesn't have to smell it, and my partner will deal with the smell because it's Tippy's favorite, so she'll hand feed it to her.

I, on the other hand, make sure the Tipster gets her cilantro every day because I just love having it around. It smells so fresh! A cute moment you'll appreciate: I like the taste of cilantro too, so periodically, I'll eat a piece while I'm feeding it to the monster. She'll get really jealous if I walk in the room after having eaten some and bend down to give her a kiss. She'll sniff my mouth and then thump until I bring her some cilantro!
 
I'm so glad someone else loves the smell of cilantro. Everyone thinks I'm weird because I think it smells SO good. My roommate says all it's fit for is being left in a sealed bag until the rabbit consumes it so he doesn't have to smell it, and my partner will deal with the smell because it's Tippy's favorite, so she'll hand feed it to her.

I, on the other hand, make sure the Tipster gets her cilantro every day because I just love having it around. It smells so fresh! A cute moment you'll appreciate: I like the taste of cilantro too, so periodically, I'll eat a piece while I'm feeding it to the monster. She'll get really jealous if I walk in the room after having eaten some and bend down to give her a kiss. She'll sniff my mouth and then thump until I bring her some cilantro!

I don't know if you like candles or not, but Yankee candle makes a candle called, pineapple & cilantro. Its AMAZING! I know it seems like a crazy mix, and i was skeptical at first, but its wonderful. Its fresh and sweet but not too sweet. It makes your house smell like some tropical-spanish paradise. And that, in my opinion, is a great thing. Haha
 
So your darn cats. UHg! Hoe frustrating that when you did have litter boxes they didn't go in them, and now you have Ellies and they go in there. Like I mentioned before, my sis cats started this too. The only way she stopped them is they are now locked in a bedroom and they go in the box again. Don't feel bad about not liking cats. I've never been a fan either. I mean, they are cute and I totally understand why people like them but they aren't my thing.

That's cute Ellie sits with you for that long. As far as weight my friends Dutch was around 4 lbs. I don't know about their molting though. Whatever the molt ends up like, it can't be worse than Archies! Haha

As far as veggies, i started Agnes at 12 weeks. Just one at a time and really slow. The only one that caused any sort of trouble was spinach and it made her poop a bit runny but nothing drastic. I also LOVE the smell of cilantro! My two don't like it :( they are really picky with herbs. Mine like romaine and the dark lettuces. They like the tops of strawberries too.

Sorry you've been tired lately. Alot of people get cabin fever this time of year. I actually took my son to our local botanical center yesterday. They keep it rainforest warm in there and it's got a glass top so the whole place has a sunny warm feeling to it. But just walking around and seeing the green of all the trees and smelling the flowers and feeling the humidity felt SO good!

I think our only botanical garden is only outdoors. That doesn't help because its still dreary and wet there too! Haha. WAIT! At the science center there is a rainforest area, with parrots and a waterfall and its humid and steamy with a glass roof. Its got all sorts of rainforest frogs and stuff too. I think i need to go there! Haha

I don't know what I'll do if Ellie doesn't like cilantro, that's like the one thing i miss buying for rabbits. I don't cook with it often as my husband finds it a little too strong but i love it! It has such a clean freshness to it. Anyway, enough about cilantro!
 

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