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It occurred to me that some of you might beinterested in Flopsy's story. I'm copying this over from theinformation I found out about him. It's kind of a cute story, so Ithought I'd post it here.http://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/The thought came to me while I was on the old Rabbits Only forum andyou'll see that Buck Jones was a huge inspiration for me to researchFlopsy's history.

I hope you enjoy!

-Carolyn

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I just got off the phone with the man that raised Flopsy, the Guinness Book of World Records' Oldest Rabbit.

Flopsy was a wild rabbit, dug up by one of the dogs. They lived inKilton (sp?) Australia at the time, and Flopsy lived in a cage on theside of the garage. The cage had a wire mesh on the sides and a woodenfloor. Flopsy urinated and pooped on the straw in his cage. Theycleaned the cage once a week. They would bring him in the house andplay with him.

The coldest it gets in Australia is -4, and Flopsy was left outside inthe cage without a cover. He was given 2 apples a week in addition topelleted food and green grass.

He asked me to ring him again on Saturday, Friday night our time, andspeak to "Mum" because she really knew everything about Flopsy andwould be delighted to give me the details. She still misses Flopsy andis very proud of him, so to talk to America would really be exciting.


My Conversation with "Mum":

The Walkers are farmers. One day, their dog dug up a burrow with a nestof rabbits. By the time Mr. Walker had yelled at the dog, there was onerabbit alive. The rabbit was about 4-days old. Mrs. Walker fed it withmilk in an eye-dropper and a little liquid vitamins for the first 6months. She fed it "until it was satisfied."

They named this rabbit "Flopsy" because of an English writer named EnidBlyton. She wrote a children's book about 3 rabbits: Mopsy, Cottontail,and Flopsy. Mrs. Walker's favorite rabbit in the book was Flopsy.

Flopsy grew to be 5-6 lbs. He had brown eyes. He was never bredbecause, "Rabbits were a problem that had gotten out of control. Wedidn't encourage the breeding. In those days, the rabbits bred veryeasily. He was never neutered."

He lived in a cage that Mr. Walker had built. "It was 3' x 2.6'. Thebottom of the cage was part wooden/part wired. You could move thewooden floor piece around. Flopsy went to the bathroom in one place andwe cleaned it a lot more than once a week!" The cage had wire allaround the sides and top. The temperature can get down to -4 degreesCelsius.

Mrs. Walker: "I would take Flopsy into the vegetable garden with me,and the sheep, dogs, or cats wouldn't bother with him at all becausethey knew he was special. They didn't fight it at all."

They never had to take him to the veterinarians. He was nevervaccinated nor given any vitamins (barring the liquid vitamins he'dgotten with his milk, as mentioned above.) He was a very healthy bunny.No runny noses, no sniffles. They fed him vegetables sometimes, butpelleted food mainly. (That was wrong. Pelleted food wasn'tavailable at that time as later mentioned in a letter that I quote onpage 2 of this thread.) The '2 apples a week' was actually 2-3 halfapples a week, plus his green grass and clover.

As he grew older, there were no geriatric signs of his aging other thanhis hair turning gray. He hopped around as usual up until the day hedied. He was a bit less vigorous, but still hopping around.

She used to cut his nails with scissors. He'd lay in her arms like acat. "It didn't worry him a bit!" She was his Mum from 4-days old andshe could do anything to him.

Mrs. Walker attributes the longevity of his life "1) Wild rabbits aretougher than human-produced rabbits. 2) He had no sicknesses orstrains. 3) He had no fear. He lived in a very relaxed atmosphere withno worries of food. He was very loved by the children and he knew it."

"Flopsy would come in the house and wander around. He used to like tochew on the wallpaper. I think it was because of the glue." When Iasked her how he was with a litterbox in the house, she said, "Everynow and then, we'd put him outside and hoped that we got it right!"


A few other things I picked up from my notes with Mrs. Walker.

Mrs. Walker: "Flopsy never tried to escape because here was his home.He didn't know he was a rabbit. He thought he was human, really. Helived in a very relaxed atmosphere."

"Having been farmers all of our lives, we've treated a lot of differentanimals. I've treated a lot of wild birds, ducks, and wild animals. Ourfarm is down to 60 acres. That's as retired as a farmer can be. We havesheep and chickens, chicks, and sheepdogs. Our parrot just died. Helived a very long life."

"The Department of Agriculture took Flopsy when he died and theymeasured his bones and checked the rings around his eyes. They agreedhe was old, but weren't able to confirm the actual number of years. Itwas then that we had gotten neighbors, family, and friends to attestthat he was that old. I had my son that year, and I certainly knew howold he was; but we still had to get people to sign letters and swearthat he came to us the day he did to prove it. We had to prove his age,and we did."


In the question of geriatric changes, her exact words were: "He had a lustered look, didn't shine as readily."

As to the vegetables, they mainly stuck to carrots; for fruit, they went with apples.

He was also never treated for earmites.

Mrs. Walker: "I fed Flopsy the whole milk and liquid vitamins in theeye-dropper until he could eat grass and things a few weeks later. Icontinued to give him doses of the milk and vitamins for about thefirst 6 months though."

 
That's really pretty interesting when you think of all that we do now to insure the proper care of our bunnies.

I like the story.:D
 
Thank you Carolyn.

That is really interesting. It really makes you think about all thedifferences between wild and domesticated rabbits. Thanks.

Tina
 
Flopsy was, by the way, aged 18 years, 10 months, 21 days if memory serves me correctly.

Australian "wild" rabbits are the same species as our domestic rabbits.Flopsy, apparently, lived to such a ripe old age on a completely"natural" diet, and not with the pelleted feed we rely upon so muchtoday.? Authorities still argue about the efficacy of a natural dietverses a processed one with no clear cut? solution yet to be announced,in my estimation.

People from the U.K. and continental Europe seem to be more prone to anaturalistic approach, but seem to moving over to pelleted feed as itbecomes more available.? I wonder what our U.K. members feed?

Buck
 

I thought someone here would like the story, babymommy. Glad you did.

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It does make you think, Tina.

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Actually, Buck, Flopsy died at 18 years, 10 months and 21 days of age.

I know that one of our UK members has switched from a lot of vegetablesto pellets, and she was a very active member of the BRC (British RabbitCouncil).

:)

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UK Members?

What do you feed your rabbits?

-Carolyn
 
Carolyn

This story of Flopsy was so interesting! Can remember reading Flopsy,Mopsy & Cottontail when I was a kid!:) My Benjy isnamed after Benjamin Bunny written by Beatrix Potter, she also wrotePeter Rabbit. Have you heard of them in the US?

As to what we feed our bunnies here in the UK, I feed mine on pelletsmade by a company called Burgess they are called Suparabbit.This is about one of the only decent pellets you can buy in the petshops in the UK and is recommended by most vets. There areloads of rabbit mix type feeds available here with flaked maize, locustbeans etc in them. I have found with these that bunnies willonly eat certain bits of the mix and leave the bits they don't likemuch! That's why I changed over to Suparabbit and now they can't pick& choose! We also can't get the Timothy Hay I haveseen you all mention we just have packs of Meadow Hay which I buy andthey seem to like it.

I have also seen people mention Purina rabbit food we can't get thathere in the UK either although I have seen Purina cat food! In myopinion reading other peoples post from the USA it looks like you havefar more choice in decent rabbit feed and other supplies than we do!:(
 
How interesting andinformative. One would think with all the interestin rabbits as pets in the U.K.(just read rabbit owners recentlysurpassed dog owners, there), that the marketing people would "jump" onthat vacuum of product, both English and American companies.You already spend more on your rabbits than we do, due to vaccinationrequirements, so it would seem you would be open to spending more forimproved feed choices.

Buck

P.S. Beatric Potter's tales are a favorite amongst children here in the U.S., as well
 
Buck

Yes I wish some more companies would start selling more varieties ofrabbit pellets and other general rabbit supplies here in the UK. Ihadn't realised that the number of rabbit owners here had gone up thatmuch! Most of our pet shops seem to cater for cats & dogsmostly.

You mention we have more vaccinations than you guys in the US. I knowwe have to have ours injected against Myxamatosis(not sure if thatspelling is correct!) you don't have this in the USA do you?I know it was introduced by some wicked people in the 1950's or 60's tokill off our wild rabbits here in the UK, don't know why! I think therewould be uproar here today if they tried to do a similar thing withrabbits or any other wild animal.:X

Do you have your bunnies injected each year for VHD? Or do you not have that in the US either?

Sue
 
Yes, you about eradicated the rabbit in GreatBritain with the introduction of the disease. Same thingoccurred in Australia as well, I believe. I just finishedreading Anne McBride's Rabbits and Hares, 1988 in which shedocumented the negative environmental impact that episode had onEngland's ecology. It was quite impressive, even down tocausing the extinction of a particular blue butterfly because the grasswas no longer eaten down to the proper level for thecaterpillar. Unfortunately, the book was stolen recentlyduring a move I helped my son make, or I would have added some moreeffects the elimination of the rabbits produced. I have beenunable to locate another copy, but will eventually I amsure. You are more apt to find it in a used book store in theU.K. because it was printed there and I highly recommend it.

Currently, there are no vaccination requirements for rabbits here inthe U.S. There have been infrequent and very localized, butsmall outbreaks of VHD, that the government apparently believes havebeen contained well enough to not require any further remediation, butbreeders here do worry a lot about it. I would not be adverseto vaccinations against disease, particularly pasturella and wry neck,for example, but none seem to be forthcoming in the immediate future.

Buck
 
Buck

Thanks for this. We go to quite a few car boot sales so Iwill look out for this book now when we go! I am finding out more& more all the time about bunnies! :p

Sue
 
You're quite welcome, Batbunny! :)

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Thanks for replying to the question of pellets, Foofy. I,too, am amazed that you don't have more of a variety in the Good OldUnited Kingdom.

Cher is in China and she and I exchange mail sometimes. Shehad sent me some Chinese candies at one point, and I returned the favorby sending her junk food for her bunnies and NutriCal. Everything in the care package was made in theU.S.A.

As to the Purina food,Fauna came to me with Buck feeding herPurina.Purina is an excellent feed and the onlyreason why I don't get it is because it comes in such large quantitiesthat I just don't want to have to divide it up and use up my wholefreezer to store it. (I wouldn't have the room in my freezeranyway.) Once I decided to keep her, I switched her over tothe Nutreena feed that I give Tucker and she gobbles it down like alittle hog. So, the moral of the story is that even if youhad it, your buns might not like it. (Just trying to make youfeel a bit better about it's unavailability.)

I am surprised that Timothy Hay isn't to be found over therethough. I never would've expected that. Do you giveyour bunnies a different type of hay or do you bypass hay completely?

-Carolyn

 
How old wasFlopsy when hedied?



P.S. Flopsy's Rock!

P.P.S Flopsy made me put that. :DI named Flopsy for the same reason they did. What a co-wink-ie-dink
 
Carolyn

Thanks for trying to make me feel a bit better about our lack of rabbit food here in the UK!

I do give my bunnies hay, the only types of hay readily available forrabbits are packs of meadow hay which I buy (I have a hay rack in theircage). Have never seen any Timothy Hay anywhere on sale here.What is the main difference between this and just plain meadow hay as Ihave not actually seen any Timothy I do not know what it looks like?Another quick question why do you keep your rabbit food in the freezer?

Thanks

PS How is Fauna's conjunctivitis?
 
Flopsy,

Flopsy died at 18 years, 10 months, and 21 days.

Flopsy's definitely rock! :dude:

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Foofy,

I've tried Meadow Hay, but Tucker wouldn't eat it. I'm not sure whatthe differences of the different grasses are. Meadow Hay was muchthinner, smoother, smelled much sweeter than Timothy Hay.

I keep the pellet food in the freezer to keep it fresh and maintain thenutrients in the pellets. If left out, over time, it loses the qualityit has when it's fresh.

Thanks so much for asking about Fauna's conjunctivitis. It's gone!Yesterday was the last day of medication and her eyes look beautiful.:dude:

I was so glad to hear the good news about Crunchie! :dude:

-Carolyn
 
Foofy,

A little short primer on hay(s) can be found by linking tohttp://www.rabbit.org/chapters/san-diego/diet/hay_grass.html

I think it will anwer most of your questions dealing with timothy and grass hay, which may be similar to meadow hay.

Buck

P.S. Love England. Spent two weeks with Mrs. Buck's CampfireGirl pen pal of 50 years' family in South Ruislip. What awonderful time, country, and people. Went to a local pet shopfor our bunny "fixes" and dragged our hosts along to their first everboot sale, which was thoroughly enjoyed by all.
 
:shock:Wow! That is old! I wonder if anyone can break that record!?

I know just what you are saying JessicaRabbit. I thought I was going todie when my first baby bun died. (It also didn't help that my greatgrandma and grandma had just passed) It is and unfortunate fact of lifethat everyone goes through at one point of their life, but the painlessens after awhile.

Great story Carolyn;)! Thanks for posting it. I wonder if anyone elsehad success with that kind of diet for their rabbits. Two apples a weekseems like a lot for a rabbit though, does anybody know what therecommended amount is? I'm trying to introduce some fruits and veggiesto my rabbits' diets just to add some variety.

Lissa
 
Fruits and vegetables should be given inmoderation (once or twice a week) because of the high amounts ofsugar. Sugar is disruptive totheirsystems.

Mrs. Walker stated that when she said 2 apples a week, she actually meant small apples cut in 1/2.

-Carolyn
 

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