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Background: I've had various pets over the last 10 years. My wife had rabbits when she was little and starting thinking about getting one again when we went to a pet store in Newport Beach. I made her pump her brakes on getting one that day so we could do the responsible thing and learn about what we are getting into. Now that we've done our research, we are ready to have a rabbit join our family.
Problem: It turns out its nearly impossible to find rabbits in LA county. Apparently the City of Los Angeles has various ordinances regarding the sale of certain animals (dogs, cats, rabbits, etc.) and the outlying areas have been pressured by animal groups into not carrying anything bigger than fish or birds. I can't seem to find sellers on Craig's List or the Recycler that aren't in San Bernadino or Orange County. My wife wants a Holland Lop and is very particular, she can look at a dozen little bunnies and only think one is cute.
Question: Does anyone know any stores or reputable breeders in the San Fernando, Santa Clarita or Antelope Valley that might have Holland Lops? I've looked at the websites for the animal shelters in the area and they mostly seem to have upright ear white rabbits (she's got a "thing" about plain white rabbits.) Thanks in advance.
 
I used to live in the Valley, Studio City before I moved back here to the East Coast.. on Goodland...

There have been some individuals on here posting that they lived in LA/CA that needed to get new homes for their bunnies and have listed it on this list. That might be a good start because with breeders you have no idea what you are getting.
I also know some rescues... but I think this list is a good start... Check the Forum Rescue Me and take it from there!

I hope this helps!

Vanessa
 
I looked in the Rescue Me thread and didn't see any current listing for Holland Lops in the LA area.
 
We're overrun with rabbits in Los Angeles with plenty of stray and abandoned rabbits for everyone! We're lucky they're not selling them in stores for impulse buyers.
I grew up in the San Fernando Valley volunteering for LA Animal Services and currently live in Pomona. I've adopted from LA City, LA county, and Ventura county shelters as well as privately from Bunny Bunch and have adopted a well behaved, initially healthy animal each time (although a few of my rabbits have later developed respiratory issues).
Has she seen many rabbits in person? Often times you'll go into a rescue with one sort of rabbit in mind and the personality of another will win your heart. The city shelters are also notorious for mislabeling breeds online, so don't search for holland lops specifically.
The bunny bunch doesn't list all their rabbits online and they typically have hundreds in their shelters and foster care at one time, so if you have your heart set on a specific breed, contacting them may be worth it. They have partnerships with many of the city shelters that allow the shelters to do pre-adoption spays and neuters without fear that they'll end up euthanizing the animals. They also have a partnership with my vet school and some of bunny bunch's spays and neuters are done on our mobile spay neuter.
http://www.bunnybunch.org/

If you're willing to venture away from Holland Lops, one of my classmates is fostering this adorable and incredibly friendly bun who she found as a stray but has since been neutered and given a clean bill of health.
http://www.rabbitsonline.net/f19/stray-tricolor-bunny-southern-california-looking-new-home-78235/
 
I'll talk to my wife about the rescue option. I like the idea of not having to pay for spaying/neutering. I think she wants one that she can raise so it's "hers." I went through that with my first dog, but my rescued mutt has been a great companion for 10+ years.
I looked through PetFinder and saw some possibilities, but they were all in Whittier. Bunny Bunch is almost San Bernardino too. I'm so surprised that there just doesn't seem to be a lot of rabbit activity outside the Inland Empire.
 
As missyscove mentioned, not all animals at a shelter are necessarily listed online (especially if they have a lot of that type of animal), so it's definitely worth looking into more.

I got a Holland lop and a Lionhead when they were 8 and 7 weeks old, respectively. I love them to pieces and it was a nice experience, but I found there's definitely something to be said for adopting adult (or young adult) rabbits!

~ Babies can be difficult or impossible to fully litter box train (as in getting them to do all their peeing in the box) until they're older; many adults come already trained. I adopted a rabbit a couple weeks ago who's a little over a year old, I think. He had shredded paper (ugh!) in his litter tray at the shelter... I brought him home and put a dishpan with pine pellets (kiln-dried) in it in his temporary x-pen set-up and despite the change in substrate, he knew right away that that's where he's supposed to potty. He did leave a lot of stray poops briefly after coercing me to expand his territory faster than I should've, but that died down after a couple days and now he gets 95% of his poops and all of his pee in the box... better than my girls have ever done! :p

~ It's common for babies to leave cecals around instead of eating them all (a combination of producing extra because they get fed extra pellets and being forgetful because they're so young) - Gaz, my Holland, left at least a few a day at first... though by 4 mos or so, it had pretty much stopped and by the time she was spayed at 5 mos, she never left them any more. Cecals are stinky, smooshy and gross, plus they can get stuck in fur if a bunny sits on them. Eww!

~ Spaying/neutering is nerve-wracking. Even knowing that with a qualified vet, there's a 99% chance of things going smoothly, how can you not be worried by that 1% chance that you might lose the bunny you've spent 2-4 months getting attached to? I was so nervous! Everything went perfectly with my girls spays, thankfully, but it was still a very worrisome experience. The next couple days were bad, too, as Nala kept licking her incision and I had to put a gauze pad over it and then wrap vetwrap around her tummy and the girls didn't want to eat because of the lingering nausea from the anesthesia so I had to force-feed them Critical Care - not fun!

~ Spaying/neutering can be expensive if you can't find a low-cost clinic that does bunnies (most don't). I payed around $465 for two spays (including incidentals and metacam to take home).

~ Bunnies tend to need to grow into their personalities - with an adult, you can see their true personality to begin with. Nala and Gaz didn't really display much personality at all when I picked them out at the breeder's place, though I somehow intuitively knew to some degree for reasons I can't explain... their auras, I guess :p. Their personalities did develop and evolve more as they grew up, though.

By contrast, Norm was full of personality when I met him at the shelter. When I brought him home and he'd had all of a few hours to settle in, he was already acting like "why wasn't I here all along??"! Within a day, he'd convinced me to let him out of his x-pen early (he was crashing into the sides trying to do binkies in there - broke my heart and I had to drop what I was doing to bunny proof a larger area for him) and would follow me around the bedroom/hallway area where he's allowed, licking my ankles at every opportunity, and then wait at the gate when I went to the rest of the apartment. He's actually more outwardly affectionate than the girls I raised from weaning age - a total cuddler! The girls really don't act happy to see me unless I have food for them, lol.

While I could never regret anything about Nala and Gaz, I definitely wouldn't want to go through the "baby" experience again! Getting a full-grown cuddle bunny who came home with impeccable litter box habits is a wonderful thing.

As a note, shelters/rescues DO sometimes get very young rabbits, pregnant does or does with a litter. They don't adopt out the babies until after they've reached spay/neuter age and been fixed... however, they very frequently place "immature" animals (as in too young for getting fixed and, if applicable, vaccinated) in foster homes.

If your wife would be interested in fostering, it would be a great way to get a feel for what juvenile rabbits are like... plus, if she fell in love with one of the foster bunnies, she could adopt them when they were old enough. With that route, you'd get to give a rescue bunny a home, get them a dirt cheap spay/neuter surgery for the low cost of the adoption fee AND she might get to raise the rabbit from a baby... and shelters are always looking for volunteers/fosters. (Volunteering at the shelter would also be a way to be around the little ones a lot, though that's a big time commitment.)

While some animals are placed in foster homes to recover from illness or injury, I learned in the foster orientation class for the HSPCA that the vast majority of animals they send to foster homes fall into the "immature" category. It may vary from shelter to shelter, but the Houston SPCA's foster coordinator does NOT assign animals to people who have volunteered to foster - you pick whichever animal(s) you want out of the ones they're seeking foster homes for.
 
It would be easier to convince my wife if someone could point me towards a rescue closer to us. An hour drive with for the off chance that they might have something isn't appealing.
Are there any rescues in the San Fernando Valley, Santa Clarita Valley, Antelope Valley, or the Simi/Calabasas/Thousand Oaks areas? I've had zero luck finding any with a Google search.
A lead on a reputable breeder in those areas would also be appreciated.
 
Have you called the shelters that are a bit of a drive but are close enough you'd be willing to make the trip if you knew they had lops? If not, that's a good next step as they should be able to provide information over the phone regarding any rabbits that aren't listed on their website.

Another option is to contact the nearest House Rabbit Society chapter to inquire about shelters/rescues in your area - information about that can be found on the leftmost column of their homepage.

Also, H.A.R.E., Inc is a rescue organization in your state. Following their "contact" link gives you the option to email Dr. Dana Krempels, one of the top rabbit health experts in the nation. I've actually chatted with her a bit via email - she's wonderfully nice and a die-hard bunny slave. Professionals at the top of their given field inevitably have a ridiculous number of "connections" and given that she's in California, she's probably familiar with the vast majority of the rabbit rescue groups in your state. She's pretty much an information sponge when it comes to anything rabbit, so if anyone could point you in the direction of a local shelter/rescue, it's probably her :).
 
That rescue (LA Rabbits Foundation) is also looking for foster homes. You could consider fostering a rabbit and if you decide it isn't the one for you then you wouldn't necessarily have to adopt it.
 

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