Cirrustwi's Bunny Journal

[cirrustwi]

Ok, I'm going to tell now! I hadn'ttold anyone buy Rose and Tina and of course Gypsy knew. I'mgetting one of Gypsy's baby Pals! I'm going to get a girlfrom Gypsy and hopefully a boy from Tank's litter. That way,I will have a non-related breeding pair when they grow up a bit.

I'm go excited! Gypsy and I are working out getting her girlhere and when Tank makes her trip East, one of her babies will bestopping here.

Jen

 

[dajeti2]

Jen, that is too funny. Jeremy is theone who decided all our Flemish will have Greek names. I finally gotsmart and printed out something like 50 pages of names so I hadsomething to go by.

I'm sure you will figure it out. You are so lucky.

Tina

 

I should clarifysomething so everyone understands , Roseand I and Pam have discussedthe possable Lynx and Goldencrossing and From whatwe can figure out andfrom what we know of theBreeder He had Both Lynx and Goldens in his herd, it is possable Tank will carry aLynxing gene . the First litter fromthe Lynx and Golden will tell thestory If I understood theGenetics correctly .

 

[CorkysMom]

Very cool Jen!!! Those will be 2 VERY lucky bunnies!!!!! :angel:

 

[FreddysMom]

gypsy wrote:

I should clarifysomething so everyone understands , Roseand I and Pam have discussedthe possable Lynx and Goldencrossing and From whatwe can figure out andfrom what we know of theBreeder He had Both Lynx and Goldens in his herd, it is possable Tank will carry aLynxing gene . the First litter fromthe Lynx and Golden will tell thestory If I understood theGenetics correctly .

i dont have the book with me herenow, but thepalhandbook i have says that a 1stgeneration crossing of lynx and golden (which they repeat over about39479457 million times not to do) will result in almost all smuttygoldens

 

[SweetPeasMommie]

Wow well Jen if you do breed later on next yearlet me know maybe I will take one or a pair. I'll talk to hubby and seemaybe we can breed one set of Pals so it can spread out unless theyaprove it since it has spread. I am so excited that Tank is out of theplace she was in and they are getting her.

 

[cirrustwi]

FreddysMom wrote:

gypsy wrote:

Ishould clarify something soeveryone understands , Rose and I andPam have discussed the possableLynx and Golden crossing and Fromwhat we can figure outand from what we know of theBreeder He had Both Lynx and Goldens in his herd, it is possable Tank will carry aLynxing gene . the First litter fromthe Lynx and Golden will tell thestory If I understood theGenetics correctly .

i dont have the book with me herenow, but thepalhandbook i have says that a 1stgeneration crossing of lynx and golden (which they repeat over about39479457 million times not to do) will result in almost all smuttygoldens

Well, I'm going to do my research before doing any breeding...I'll havea while. I'm going to talk to breeders and all that goodstuff. I thought I understood it the same way Gypsydoes. I'll see. I wouldn't mind having some thatwere just pets anyway.

Jen

Edit: I just read this again, and I think I came across as a littlesnotty. I'm sorry if it did. I didn't meanitthat way.

 

[SweetPeasMommie]

I probably would rather own some pals as petsthan breeding since DJ and I are concidering becoming a flemish giantand lionhead breeders.

 

FreddysMom wrote:

gypsy wrote:

Ishould clarify something soeveryone understands , Rose and I andPam have discussed the possableLynx and Golden crossing and Fromwhat we can figure outand from what we know of theBreeder He had Both Lynx and Goldens in his herd, it is possable Tank will carry aLynxing gene . the First litter fromthe Lynx and Golden will tell thestory If I understood theGenetics correctly .

i dont have the book with me herenow, but thepalhandbook i have says that a 1stgeneration crossing of lynx and golden (which they repeat over about39479457 million times not to do) will result in almost all smuttygoldens

:shock: maybe I didnt understand itcorrectly . This is what Pamwrote , Freddy'sMom rememberTank may carry the Lynx gene we arenot certain yet .

*****gypsy wrote:

ok Rose has theGolden and I havetheLynx what would the outcome befor that , Rose and I havediscussed this before and neither of usknew the answer .

The Lynx is produced by the recessive dilute "d" gene. If theGolden carries that gene, you could get Lynx in the first generationlitter. If the Golden does not carry the dilute gene, all theresulting offspring would be Golden.



Pam ******

ooppss sorry I forgot tosay Thanks for reminding me to go backand re read what Pam wrote ,.

I also wanted to ask the Name of the book , wheredid you find it andwhy the Heck cant I find it whaaaaaaaaaa .

Jen You didnt sound snotty hon not at all .

 

[cirrustwi]

FreddysMom: Can I ask...where did you get the Pal handbook??? I must have one!!!

Jen

 

LOL Jen I just asked thesame question we must have been typing atthe same time with the samethoughts in mind lol .

 

[FreddysMom]

Jen .. you did not sound snotty at all I never meant for it seem like you werent doing your homework ..sorry :?

..lemme clarify what I meant .. and Pam is correct .. a Golden x Lynxwill result in all Goldens (unless the Golden is a Lynx carrier) ThoseGoldens tho, the majority will all have smut coloring on the fur whichis a DQ and hard to breed out as per the book.

I got the handbook by mailing Deb Morrison of the Pals co-breeder assc.she sent me the free copy thats about 30 pages and goes pretty in depthon the genetics of the Pal ......if you become a member it only costslike $10 you get like a 300 page book on the Pals .. you can email herat [email protected]

 

Thank You Freddy'sMom I appreciate that and Iknow Jen does also. Im going toemail and join up INEED that BOOK!!!!!! and I will need Pamto bring it down to my level so I canunderstand it LOL .

 

[FreddysMom]

No problem!

The short hand book explain all the different kinds of genes and whatthey do and examples of the characteristics they show on therabbits...from there, they speculate what genes they believe make upthe Pals and what happens with the different crosses...its veryinformative to say the least!! i couldnt put it down until i read thewhole thing! it also includes regs. for the breed lots of color photosand all that kind of stuff

 

[cirrustwi]

gypsy wrote:

Thank You Freddy's Mom Iappreciate that and I knowJen does also . Imgoing to email and joinup I NEED that BOOK!!!!!! and I will needPam to bring it down to my level so I canunderstand it LOL .

LMBO Me too. Oh, Pam....

Jen

 

[cirrustwi]

SweetPeasMommie wrote:

Wow well Jen if you do breed later on next year let me knowmaybe I will take one or a pair. I'll talk to hubby and see maybe wecan breed one set of Pals so it can spread out unless they aprove itsince it has spread. I am so excited that Tank is out of the place shewas in and they are getting her.

Angel: I'll definitely let you know. Mine would bebrother and sister so you would need to find a doe or buck from someoneelse if you wanted to breed. I know line breeding has it'spurpose, but I don't really believe in it and would never sell thatclosely related doe and buck to anyone for breeding purposes.If someone is going to line breed, I feel that it should be left up tothe experts.

Also, in this case, I do believe that Tank was bred with her son (Bub's brother), so there is already inbreeding in the line.

Jen

 

[SweetPeasMommie]

Ok not a prob. It is just not a rush for usright not. Hey Jen I thought you were going to the meeting. We weregonna go but too hot to leave the house. lol

 

[cirrustwi]

Angel: It's not a rush for me either, the situation is just turning out to be perfect. I'm excited.

I was going to go to the meeting, but I got stuck with stuff to dountil 6:30, so it just wasn't happening. I'm just praying forthis new job to pan out. I talked to the girl who is leavingtoday, she said she would put in a good word for me as did the girl whowould work right under me. I'm really hoping it will work out.

Jen

 

[SweetPeasMommie]

Oh I hope you get it. Is it in pgh somewhere.

 

[cirrustwi]

No, it's up here. But it pays enoughthat if I get it, I'll be more then willing to make thecommute. Shawn and I will rethink our house hunt to make itabout 1/2 between his work and mine.

Jen