Babies are here!

[Livvy]

Just thought, if you just turn that hidey house you have there 180 degrees so the opening will go by the wall of the cage you will have it sorted. You can add a piece of a cardboard where it is but it will work as is as well. It is slightly bigger than needed but at least babies won't be able to escape.

Yes i just thought of that as I was adding cardboard to the side so I rotated it.
They are eating well. Hers the smallest of the 4 and they finally have nice round full bellies. Thank goodness. Feeling way better. Now hopefully they stay in the nest tonight and she doesnt wake me up a bunch stomping like last night lol

 

[Livvy]

Baby update. We have fur growing and they seem healthy. 1 seems alot smaller and wrinkly again but looked fine yesterday so ill keep my eye out. I got some pics while checking them.
one is by far the biggest and healthiest and I have zero worries for that one.
They seem healthy and growing for sure even though one is skinnier and smaller (I'm watching that one).
Thank you for all the help!

 

[Happy Hollands]

Aww, that is wonderful! ❤

It will be easier to tell once they are older, but it looks like you've got 2 black torts (like mama) and 2 chocolate torts / oranges? I'm not sure what color the dad is but that may help.

The smallest kit looks like it would benefit from an assisted feeding with mom. Keep a close eye on it, and make sure it has lots of energy.

A general rule of thumb is to check daily and all the kits should have a "white tint" (you can literally see the milk in their belly). If not, they might need some help and an extra feeding

Once they are about 3 weeks old, you may start to notice maloccusion If so, I advise talking to your vet on if there is anything you can do to help / cure it from a young age. I have heard of some breeders making a brace and have successfully cured it while the baby was young. Obviously consult you vet, as in some cases it may be best to leave alone!

Thanks for the adorable update!!

 

[Livvy]

Aww, that is wonderful! ❤

It will be easier to tell once they are older, but it looks like you've got 2 black torts (like mama) and 2 chocolate torts / oranges? I'm not sure what color the dad is but that may help.

The smallest kit looks like it would benefit from an assisted feeding with mom. Keep a close eye on it, and make sure it has lots of energy.

A general rule of thumb is to check daily and all the kits should have a "white tint" (you can literally see the milk in their belly). If not, they might need some help and an extra feeding

Once they are about 3 weeks old, you may start to notice maloccusion If so, I advise talking to your vet on if there is anything you can do to help / cure it from a young age. I have heard of some breeders making a brace and have successfully cured it while the baby was young. Obviously consult you vet, as in some cases it may be best to leave alone!

Thanks for the adorable update!!

Yes i was wondering about an assisted feeding for the smallest. Im trying to not be too overbearing so one check once a day. I do around noon cuz mommas in nap mode and doesnt seem to mind getting some her time lol ive been checking for malloclussion everytime and their tiny teeth look fine to me.
I know she fed them yesterday night as all their bellies were huge. Today not as huge but they were all very active and warm.
Here's a picture of dad. I was hoping for a nice mix so we had some speckled like him. He is the reason we have them both. I fell in love with him and they were bonded at the store so I got them both. I couldn't seperate them. They said 2 boys and clearly they weren't so i cant wait to get them fixed so they can be together again. Dad (chille) is so sad brownie is gone. Hes gotten extra treats and attention though.

 

[Happy Hollands]

He is gorgeous! Looks like a broken squirrel (aka blue chinchilla) to me. Still baffles me why they were dumped at a pet store, they are beautiful and obviously purebred. Tort is a very dominant gene, hence why the babies look like mom and none like dad.

Super hard to tell until fur grows in completely, but I'm guessing all 4 are torts. Can any other breeders back me up on this??

 

[Livvy]

Aww, that is wonderful! ❤

It will be easier to tell once they are older, but it looks like you've got 2 black torts (like mama) and 2 chocolate torts / oranges? I'm not sure what color the dad is but that may help.

The smallest kit looks like it would benefit from an assisted feeding with mom. Keep a close eye on it, and make sure it has lots of energy.

A general rule of thumb is to check daily and all the kits should have a "white tint" (you can literally see the milk in their belly). If not, they might need some help and an extra feeding

Once they are about 3 weeks old, you may start to notice maloccusion If so, I advise talking to your vet on if there is anything you can do to help / cure it from a young age. I have heard of some breeders making a brace and have successfully cured it while the baby was young. Obviously consult you vet, as in some cases it may be best to leave alone!

Thanks for the adorable update!!

He is gorgeous! Looks like a broken squirrel (aka blue chinchilla) to me. Still baffles me why they were dumped at a pet store, they are beautiful and obviously purebred. Tort is a very dominant gene, hence why the babies look like mom and none like dad.

Super hard to tell until fur grows in completely, but I'm guessing all 4 are torts. Can any other breeders back me up on this??

Yes i was slightly upset that none came out like dad. I love his coloring. And he's sooooo soft and so sweet.
Due to moms tooth issues and temperament I was trying to get her fixed. Which would have been today lol well that didn't work out. Lol
Thats crazy that they look purebred and were at a pet store. Im assuming brownie was there due to her tooth issues. But I believe they are from 2 seperate litters and dad is a bit older. Both around 6 months.
Out of curiosity is dad also a holland? I believe mom is due to her flattish head. But I think dad is more of a mini lop but I could be wrong. Just curious because I know minis are bigger. Right now at 6 months they are close to the same size.

 

[Happy Hollands]

Squirrel is one of the rarest Holland Lop colors (I personally have never got it at my rabbitry, but I don't breed for it).

The biggest difference between Holland Lops and Mini Lops is size. Holland Lops tend to weigh 2.5 - 4.5 lbs fully grown, whereas Mini Lops can weigh around 4.5 - 6.5 lbs. Seeing as they are around 6 months old, they are fully grown. Their weight should determine their breed for you!

Holland Lops are one of the most popular breed, and their build reminds me of it. Ideally they have a round head and short floppy ears, with a compact body.

 

[Livvy]

Squirrel is one of the rarest Holland Lop colors (I personally have never got it at my rabbitry, but I don't breed for it).

The biggest difference between Holland Lops and Mini Lops is size. Holland Lops tend to weigh 2.5 - 4.5 lbs fully grown, whereas Mini Lops can weigh around 4.5 - 6.5 lbs. Seeing as they are around 6 months old, they are fully grown. Their weight should determine their breed for you!

Holland Lops are one of the most popular breed, and their build reminds me of it. Ideally they have a round head and short floppy ears, with a compact body.

 

[Livvy]

Huh

Squirrel is one of the rarest Holland Lop colors (I personally have never got it at my rabbitry, but I don't breed for it).

The biggest difference between Holland Lops and Mini Lops is size. Holland Lops tend to weigh 2.5 - 4.5 lbs fully grown, whereas Mini Lops can weigh around 4.5 - 6.5 lbs. Seeing as they are around 6 months old, they are fully grown. Their weight should determine their breed for you!

Holland Lops are one of the most popular breed, and their build reminds me of it. Ideally they have a round head and short floppy ears, with a compact body.

Not sure what happen with that last post. I weighed him and he's around 3 1/2- 4 pounds. They go to the vets soon for a simple check up. After the surprise litter I called for an appointment. Waiting on a call back. Covid has the offices mostly closed here. But then I'll have a proper weight.
This was them a few months ago. Separated but monitored. I let them see each other for a few hours a day without touching.
They are now in completely separate rooms. Lol

 

[Happy Hollands]

Yeah they definitely look like Holland's to me! Adorable regardless

 

[Livvy]

Update time!
They are fat, big getting so fluffy! I was able to get a tooth picture on one. They all look the same.
Ones ears are flopping and looks like a baby yoda. And their eyes look to be fluttering like they want to open.

 

[Livvy]

As I look at that picture that ones tooth does look a touch crooked on the bottom left.

 

[Happy Hollands]

Cute! Good news is thay they seem healthy & thriving. Bad news is the teeth do look crooked and the jaw is misaligned - the area around the mouth is also extremely swollen. I wish I had a baby picture to compare it to and show you... maybe look at your bucks' teeth to tell the difference. They should be straight and overlapping slightly. I strongly suggest contacting your vet and see if there is anything you can do to prevent pain / treat the maloccusion. I'm so sorry, I wish I could help more! Since they are born with it, most likely they will think it is normal and find a way to cope once they grow older.

On the bright side, baby yodas floppy ears are way to precious! It looks like you definitely have 1 black tort (the one with a black line down its side).

 

[Livvy]

Cute! Good news is thay they seem healthy & thriving. Bad news is the teeth do look crooked and the jaw is misaligned - the area around the mouth is also extremely swollen. I wish I had a baby picture to compare it to and show you... maybe look at your bucks' teeth to tell the difference. They should be straight and overlapping slightly. I strongly suggest contacting your vet and see if there is anything you can do to prevent pain / treat the maloccusion. I'm so sorry, I wish I could help more! Since they are born with it, most likely they will think it is normal and find a way to cope once they grow older.

On the bright side, baby yodas floppy ears are way to precious! It looks like you definitely have 1 black tort (the one with a black line down its side).

Aren't those floppy ears the cutest!
I'm making a call into my vet tomorrow, hopefully she has time shes the only rabbit savvy vet within 1 hour drive. But she is very good and knows my rabbits well.
There's another with the same black markings but it wasn't cooperating for photos. And then 2 that seem all brown. The one with the strong markings was the same as the tooth picture and the only one that cooperated for a good look at them. And it wasn't even noticeably crooked till I looked at the picture after.
This has been quite the experience. And i can't believe how fast they grow.
Thank you for all your help, everyone's been so helpful.

 

[Happy Hollands]

Aren't those floppy ears the cutest!
I'm making a call into my vet tomorrow, hopefully she has time shes the only rabbit savvy vet within 1 hour drive. But she is very good and knows my rabbits well.
There's another with the same black markings but it wasn't cooperating for photos. And then 2 that seem all brown. The one with the strong markings was the same as the tooth picture and the only one that cooperated for a good look at them. And it wasn't even noticeably crooked till I looked at the picture after.
This has been quite the experience. And i can't believe how fast they grow.
Thank you for all your help, everyone's been so helpful.

Keep us updated on if you can get them to a vet! I'm not sure if they can do anything for the babies at such a young age, and you obviously wants to be careful to avoid stress, and keep them from freezing. Is it possible to wait until the babies are around 3 weeks old and take them in? They start eating pellets and solid food at around 4 weeks, so I strongly recommend getting them check out before they are fully on solid food.


Perhaps when you are at the vet for your bucks neuter appointment, show her/him pictures and describe the situation and see what (s)he thinks would be back.

 

[Livvy]

Update time! Almost a week old now.
Got in touch with the vet and sent some pictures for her. She wants to wait till they are bigger before we do anything because they are still growing. To me it only looks like the one may have a problem, but I've never done this before so im probably wrong lol.
Momma is doing great, she's finally flopping and binkying again and doesnt mind me checking the babies at all.
Here's your daily dose of cuteness! I love when they cuddle into my hand makes me want to cuddle them forever.
The last photo is my little runt baby. Now one of the biggest ones.

 

[Catlyn]

They look adorable!

 

[zuppa]

Very cute!
I wouldn't suggest taking them to vets now, it would be best for them not to leave home until they are at least 8 weeks old. Why did you want to bring them to your vet was that because of teeth? If your vet suggested trimming your rabbit's teeth with a wire cutter I don't think they can be any help in this case tbh

 

[Catlyn]

Nobody said that her vet said anything about trimming with wire cutters? Where'd you get that info from?

Very cute!
I wouldn't suggest taking them to vets now, it would be best for them not to leave home until they are at least 8 weeks old. Why did you want to bring them to your vet was that because of teeth? If your vet suggested trimming your rabbit's teeth with a wire cutter I don't think they can be any help in this case tbh

 

[Livvy]

Nobody said that her vet said anything about trimming with wire cutters? Where'd you get that info from?

Its in my other post. As I decided to not have her knocked out for them to drill them shorter, as anesthesia can be very dangerous. So my vet showed me how to trim them myself. It works for me and my rabbit. And its done in a specific way.
However in other countries they prefer to pull the teeth all together, which I think is unnecessary and also dangerous.