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SoRexyItHurts

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I completely understand the adoption process and screening, questioning etc. However I feel like sometimes people just go tooo far!!

I had filled out an application and talked with a rescue from petfinder and passed the application 1-2-3 no problem got the fosters info etc. I am able to adopt the bunny whenever but I am doing the right thing and waiting for the 2 males to go get neutered adn entered into a rescue program.

Then I saw 2 buns needing a home. They just happened to be rex :D So ofcourse I chimed in and wanted to help. I talk to the foster and she seems happy with me but asked me to talk to the lady in charge of the rescue she is fostering for. I say ok and after spending an hour on the phone with her as well she asks me to fill out an application online. OK done! I give my name, my address, my phone#, my vet reffrence, all my info, what I am feeding, how will they be housed, you know all the typical questions usually asked. I fill out everything not missing one thing and send it.

Then I talk to the foster again and she asks me some questions, basically the same questions the rescue asked me when I talked to her on the phone. I answer them again and tell her I am not sure why the rescue wants to know all of this when I just recently told her everything you are asking me but I will tell you again. Everything seems good and the foster loves me. She wants me to come meet the bunnies and adopt them. Then the rescue has more questions she thought of. So I answer them. Then the foster tells me she has more questions from the rescue lady again. *getting tired here* I answer them again although it really had nothing to do with the bunnies.

Now she wants to know my income and if I will be able to afford to care for these bunnies. Hello did you not just check my vet refference? Obviously I can afford vet care if I am on record and recently to boot. I tell her my income and she wants the measurments of my bedroom!! Are you kidding me? I give an estimate anyway but I wasn't about to pull out a measuring tape. I think thats getting a bit personal.

The foster is also getting annoyed and wants to move the adoptin process because she has to move and thinks I am the best home for them. She asks me to come up to visit and possibly adopt. I agree. The rescue says no and I need to answer more questions before I go up and I must call her before I go up to the fosters house. I am thinking to myself what could she possibly ask me that I havent already told.

Now she wants refferences. I gave her the vet refference. She wants other refferences. I offer a friends and I am told specifically she wants my sisters # (cause she has done bunny rescue) and she wants the wildlife centers # and wherever I work.

Not for nothing but I don't want everyone harrased and questioned about me adopting a pair of bunnies. What are they going to tellher about me they do not already know or that my friend can't. Not only that but the person I volunteer for and apprentice for at the center has been going through way to much and recently just lost her cat to kidney failure. We are going through a dilema right now too with too many raccoons at once and she has to much on her mind to get bagered about me adopting bunnies. I think thats where I draw the line. I am now just saddened and feel as though no matter what answer I give this lady is determined to have another question etc. She really seems to me as if she is trying her hardest to find a reason not to adopt them out and keep them herself. I feel like I am just wasting my time and being overwhelmed by her questioning me. All I wanted to do was give 2 bunnies a wonderful home and I swear I provided enough info and welcoming to my house to do so.

When does questioning really just become invasion of privacy?
 
I agree that it gets a bit over the top! I wonder if they are required by some thing that has to do with being a non-profit or not-for-profit to go through some of that?

Personally, I think that these exact things are why so many people don't want to go through a rescue.... too much of a hassle.

I don't think it should be just whoever wants an animal, but I also don't think they should make it so hard to adopt a bunny who needs a home and someone who is rabbit savvy shouldn't have too many problems doing so.


 
I agree, that really is going a bit overboard

Adopting to a house that has adequate space, money, time, stabilityetc. and making sure the bunny will be happy is one thing, but playing 101 questions is uncalled for. Makes me sad because some rescues really discourage fantastic potential homes :?.

I hope things work out for you!
 
I can understand the application and some of the phone screening and meeting in person but after I welcome you to my house if you like, show I care for my current bun, give a good vet refference, what more do you need? I mean the other rescue questioned me to but she didn't harrass me and get personal like asking the measurements of my bedroom,my anual income, or wanting to question every person in my life about me adopting. Its just a bit ridiculous I think. The foster kinda seems to think so too, I know she is upset cause she wanted them to come here but I just can't have everyone I know harrased about bunnies. I feel I have given enough info, actually maybe more then I should have. I really wanted them too! they would have been so spoiled and happy. :(
 
I never understood why income comes in question. You could make $10k a month but have so many bills, hobbies, lack of budgetting and not have enough for a bunny while make $1k a month, be a wonderful budgetter and have more than enough for your buns.
 
That's really over the top! It's a shame that when pet shops sell rabbits they don't do something like this. Maybe then there would be less ending up in shelters.

As for the income, surely that is irrelevant as you have already given a vet reference. Besides, you may be earning now but you could give up your job next week and have 0 income and be on benefits or something. The cost and time for the shelter to get all these references, etc must be enormous too.
 
That is such a shame and I'm so sorry that it seems that you've had to lose out on adopting a great pair. I agree with the others that it was over the top. In fact I've known some rescues around here that have gotten so intense that the (completely qualified)potential adopter gave up (after months of trying and full cooperation with the rescue)and bought a rabbit from a pet store! These people were awesome bunny parents for pete's sake! I think that sometimes some rescues lose sight of the big picture and end up alienating potential adopters. Such a bum deal. :nosir:


 
Personally, I would consider asking for room dimensions and income an invasion of privacy. And I'm not sure that they can legally ask some of those questions.

Being not-for-profit DOES NOT mean that they are required to ask some of those questions. I have volunteered for the local Humane League, and I know they have followed the letter ofthe law (at least here in PA). Generally they ask for address info, about what other pets you have, and a vet reference. They do do some research into people's residence because they need to clear adoptions to renters with the landlords. They also check various municipal laws regarding # of pet limits (some localities make it illegal to have more thanx number ofpets of any variety in any combination). Other than that, their questions are about your attitude towards/plans for the pet you are adopting. They may ask WHERE you will house it (inside vs outside), but they certainly don't ask room dimensions. They also ask that all adults in the household agree to the pet (either by coming in together to sign the adoption papers or verbal assent over the telephone).

It is absolutely essential that they ask you questions about bunny care, get a vet reference, and know that you are in the position to meet the rabbits' needs...but beyond that is ridiculous.

I have applied to 2 different rescues to adopt. One rescue asked me an UNBELIEVABLE number of questions about rabbit health issues (stasis, etc.) At the time I was a pretty new bunny owner and I had to do some research to be able to answer the complexity of questions they asked. I was glad they wanted to assure the buns got a good home, but...well, you understand how I felt.

It is a shame that you have had these frustrations.
 
I am so sorry you are having to deal with this. This is definitely my number one pet peeve of rescues (for any species).

Don't get me wrong, I love rescues. I was a kitten foster, I adopted my dog and cat and I've helped rescue rabbits in the past. But there are some rescues that have this mind set that the person they adopt a rabbit (though I see this most often with dog rescues) to has to be PERFECT. I understand a basic screening and vet reference. But there are some rescues that require someone to be home all day!! How are you going to make money to care for your pet if you don't work!?! Or they are an inner-city rescue but require the owner to have a fenced yard. What!? How is that possible?! Some of these places are so off the wall that the animals are the ones that end up suffering. Instead of being in someones not quite perfect home, they are in a jam-packed rescue getting very little individual attention. Plus- how many of us rabbit owners started out perfect? But look now- we've come online to seek out information, we've searched out rabbit savvy vets, etc...

Ugh- sorry. You've hit a sore topic for me, lol!! I witnessed too many wonderful animals suffer in a local animal rescue because their standards were impossible to meet.

:rant:

Ok. I got that out of my system. I'm better now.. Lol! I sure hope you are able to work it out with this rescue and bring the lovely rexes home!
 
Sheesh that is beyond. Our rescue there are a few of us that go over the applications than ask basic questions. If we feel it is ok we pass them on too one of 3 people. They ask a few to make sure and that is it.
 
:shock2:That does seem very over the top. I agree with a lot of what the other posters have said. Sometimes a rescue will ask way too many questions and discourage even the best of adopters from going through the adoption process. Asking income and room dimensions seems way way way over the top and a big invasion of privacy. Does having a smaller bedroom mean that the rabbits will be loved for or cared for less? Doubtful. Very frustrating.
 
That is really over the top. They must not get many animals adopted out, which isn't good for the bunnies. I don't see why your income or your room dimensions matter. I've seen people take good care of a whole bunch of indoor bunnies on little money and very little space.

Just thought I'd make a plug, if this doesn't work out check our Rescue section for buns you might be interested in. And don't be shy about asking for help with transportation to get buns from a rescue farther away that is willing to work with you. We like to see rescue rabbits go to good homes, and it looks like you'd take great care of them!
 
LMAO

and rescues wonder why people waltz into a pet store pay 30$ for a bun and walz out, just to turn it loose or throw it toa rescue in 6 mos when the kids are sick of it!
(not sayin all peopel do that, but alot do!)

it is easy! no questions, just oh you have 30$ you could even say i have the cage and food and stuff at home,a nd not even be set up for a bun, and they jsut let you take it home!

i agree there should be a vet check reference all around, stores and rescues. and if you are new to pet ownership a personal reference would be good.

and TALK to the person, if they seem to have a head on there shoulders let em get the bun! otherwise EDUCATE them! especially rescues! they should educate people not jsut say go away or whatever they do to rejects!

i work with many avian and exotic rescues int he area, and i have given them my 2 cents ont he issue before. if you dont let them give this animal a home he could sit hear for yers, or life...

and they can go to pet coa nd grab a baby, to either love and cherish or neglect and toss.. it is a risk every time.

Give em a chance!

This is jsut my 2 cents..


 
Wow I feel pretty bad for you!!! That WAY over hte top. Having to get the denmensions of your bed room, and finding out your income!!! Jezz I hope you get those, bunnies. But after that don't go there again!!! :X
 
Thanks for all the comments. At least I know its not just me thinking this is getting ridiculous. Makes me feel a little better but the fact is this lady from the rescue is now going to take the bunnies from the foster home into her home and I have a feeling they'll just never be adopted now. They arent really even friendly and need work and a lot of quiet. Most people want friendly out going buns not scared skiddish ones and I was willing to work with them.Even the foster thinks they will just never be adopted now and be kept at this womans house in a cage for years. I think the actual rescue has a hoarder mentality.

She left me a voicemail on my phone last night that was literally over 5 minutes long. I had no clue what she was even talking about really. I let the foster hear it and she was just like wow, I'm sorry you have to go through this.

I think I am going to write the lady an email. Not a nasty one but explain my concerns and why I don't feel the need to be answering all these questions that still I already have. I don't think because I don't want certain people harrased about me adopting a pair of buns I shouldn't be able to adopt and thats so far what it seems to be. Especially when I did give a vet ref and 1 personal ref.Its just not looking good. I mean I know I am not perfect, but I am sure to a bunny I could mean the world. I hope my email makes her go easy on the next adoptee.:(
 
JamesCarden wrote:
did there lawyer contact you yet? you know to sign the $100,000 contract and to get that blood sample?

LOL! I was thinking along those lines also!

By the time they decide if someone can have a bunny - the bunny has moved on to the rainbow! :shock:
 
there is a saying i love it is actually the footer of all my emails.


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* Rescuing one animal might not change the world;*
* But it will change the world for that one animal ! *
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Oh the stories I can tell you of pushy rescuers. I don't even consider them rescuers. I consider them people who like animals who use them as an excuse to vent their own problems.
 

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