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claramae99

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First a little history: My bunny is a 3 year old American Lop. He's been fed Sweet Meadow timothy hay and timothy based pellets since we got him as a baby.

This spring, he stopped eating his pellets, so we called the vet. They suggested this gourmet mix of pellets and seeds from the grocery store. Tried it for a week and he seemed to enjoy it ok, but never finished it. It was a bit pricey to be throwing it away, and he stopped eating his hay, so we switched back to the old pellets. For the last month, he's been ignoring the hay completely, and progressively eating less and less vegetables, but finishes most of his pellets. I was concerned he might need his teeth looked at, so we made an appointment at the vet. The vet said his teeth were fine, but he felt a hairball in his stomach. He prescribed Metoclopramide Syrup 1ml three time per day to get his system moving again (even though we were still seeing droppings), fresh pineapple juice 2ml three times per day to break up the hairball, and pureed pellets and/or vegetable baby food 20-30ml two to three times per day to make sure he is still getting a nutritious diet. I followed this regimen until the meds ran out, while still offering fresh veggies that he still won't eat. He's still producing droppings, but still won't touch his hay or veggies. What I would like to know is if there are any tricks to get him interested in these things again? I can't force feed him for the rest of his life because it's stressing both him and me out. He's been picky about his veggies before but not to this degree. We've tried romaine lettuce, carrots, parsley, broccoli, radishes, celery, and cabbage. He will still eat his fruit treat of either apple, pear or banana, but I know he can't have alot of that. And I'm super worried about the hay issue since I know how important it is that he eats lots of that. Any suggestions before I make another appointment?

Thanks!
Jennifer
 
It does sound like a medical problem to be honest.

However, rabbits don't get hair balls in the same way cats do, so it may be that your vet has felt something and misdiagnosed it, or not explained it properly. Is your vet rabbit savvy?

Did they check his molars when they checked his teeth? Did he have an x-ray to check his tooth roots?

Has anything changed in his life recently? Accommodation? household additions?

How is his behaviour?

Welcome to the forum by the way :) If you could put your location in the profile that would be great, thank you. It means that you can get more specific advice :)
 
Thanks for such a quick reply! Yes, we go to a veterinary hospital with vets specializing in different areas. We saw a vet specializing in exotics and small animals. He did check all of his teeth including the molars (wow! what a fiasco that is!). He said there were a few spots that may need filing in the distant future, but there were no sores or signs of infection. His temp was fine also. No x-rays were done (I was surprised but relieved not to have that cost). His behavior is fine; he's a bit lazy, but has a large cage to run and jump around if he likes. He has the run of our kitchen each night for a while when we clean his cage. Only real change in his life has been warmer temps (between 70 and 80 degrees F), but I keep a frozen milk jug in his cage for him to cool off. I think i'll try to ring the vet and see what they think. Thanks!

Jennifer
 
I am wondering if even though the spurs are not injuring him, whether if they are causing him enough discomfort to change his appetite. Recently my Dusk had his spurs done. They were a bit long but not injuring him, but they were long enough for him to go off his food.

Maybe it's worth getting them done to rule that option out?
 
good luck.

Is he on pain medication until then?
 
No, but he probably should be. I do have a bit of good news though. He just ate two broccoli florets on his own (not force fed)! That's the most he's eaten on his own in a couple weeks. Hopefully he's not in too much pain.:( I can't wait until he's back to normal. Thanks for all of the great advice. I'm so glad I found this site!

Jennifer
 
I'm glad his molars are being filed, but I don't think you should go to this vet anymore.

The first thing I think of when a rabbit stops eating pellets is tooth problems. Rabbits don't get "bored" of a food like humans do.

Also, rabbits should not be fed seeds at all--those pellet/seed mixes are just terrible for rabbits. They can't digest seeds properly. So what this vet did was change your bunny from a very good pellet (Sweet Meadow timothy) to a very bad pellet. Plus eating this bad pellet made him stop eating hay, which is a huge problem. Rabbits of course need to eat hay all the time.

Another thing is the use of metoclopramide. This drug, and other gut stimulants, has its fair share of detractors. It can cause serious problems in stasis if an obstruction is there--causing more pain than helping. The syrup formulation is also bad--sugar slows the gut down even more. I would only use this drug if the rabbit had stopped pooping entirely, and an x-ray revealed an obstruction, and all other attempts had been exhausted.

My first guess with your rabbit would have been tooth issues. Then, if stasis or gut slowdown was expected, I'd give a probiotic (Bene-Bac), extra water and pedialyte, maybe some fresh pineapple juice, wet leafy greens, canned pumpkin, a dose of painkiller, and simethicone. If that didn't work, the next step would be Nutri-cal, then the vet giving sub-cutaneous fluid injections, force feeding baby food or pellet slurry, and a gut x-ray. If that didn't work, then I'd go to gut motility drugs.

I think once his teeth are good, and he has some pain meds to deal with that, he will start eating again. I still think you need a new vet, though.
 
I have to agree with you on that, but unfortunately in our rural area we have the choice of 2 vets to go to and we've already been to the other (awful experience; bun ended up with a bloody nose). I am a bit upset that I had to medicate my bun for a week when he probably didn't need it. Although I know enough to be able to take care of our bunny(food, housekeeping, exercise and love), I am still learning about how they should be handled differently when ill. I've always been told they're just like cats, but I'm finding that's all wrong! Thanks for all of the wonderful information on how you would have handled my situation. I've been at the mercy of this vet, but he'll find i am wiser each time i return!

Jennifer
 
OK, Holyfield had his "surgery" this morning. Was supposed to be at 11 a.m. and they charged us for 15 minutes. They said everything went fine, and he did great with the anesthesia. My husband just brought him home (6:30 p.m.) and he's still so groggy (floppy like a wet noodle). They gave us enough Metacam for 3 days to give him for pain and inflammation (was not easy to give to a sleepy bunny) and said he should be ready for his normal diet in the morning. I wonder if anyone who has been through this with their bunny could let me know what to expect in the next 3 days? Thanks!

Jennifer

 

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