What do you think of these Mini Rex?

[Silver Star Rabbitry]

First of all, I want to apologize for the inconvenience of having to go through links to view these pictures.
I am going to get a trio, or perhaps 1 buck and 3 does of Mini Rex. What do you think of these?

In the first link are AA's 100 Grand, Kaleb's PCB and PCB's son, Paradise's Sioux
http://paradiserabbits.webs.com/forsale.htm

In the second link, at the bottom of the page, are different pictures of Kaleb's PCB and Paradise's Sioux
http://paradiserabbits.webs.com/minirex.htm

In the third link is a facebook album with Kaleb'b PCB, AA's 100 Grand and Paradise's Sioux
http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#!/alb ... 1233766966

In the forth link is Kaleb's CO (Sr.broken chocolate otter doe)
http://aa-rabbitry.com/Otter.aspx

And in the fifth link is AA's Angie (Jr. castor doe)
http://aa-rabbitry.com/Castor.aspx

Any comments?
Thanks for taking the time to look and dig through pictures!!!

Emily

Silver Star Rabbitry
Raising and Showing Quality Silver Marten Rabbits in North Louisiana.

[url]http://silverstarsilvermartens.webs.com/[/url]
[url]http://silverstarrabbitry.blogspot.com/[/url]

[email protected]

 

[lelanatty]

I am no mini rex expert, these are only my opinions, and if they are out of line with your intentions, my apologies.

AA's 100 Grand- Yuck. Unless you are planning on doing a lot of breeding work to improve type in chocolates, don't buy that rabbit.

Kaleb's PCB- Fairly nice brood doe, even the better that she has produced Sioux.

Paradise's Sioux- nice rabbit. IMO, the best of the bunch that you have presented here.

Kaleb's CO- could be better, she looks a little rough.

AA's Angie- nice body, but needs work in the fron end. Still would make a good brood doe.

I noticed that there isn't a trio of rabbits in these that are all the same color. I think Castor isn't good bred to any other color except black or black otter when they need to be darkened. I also wouldn't breed a chocolate to a blue unless I was trying, in the off-chance, to make lilacs. That said, if I were picking a trio out of this group of rabbits, and didn't mind the inbreeding, I would go with Sioux, PCB, and as a last resort, CO.

 

[Purple Mountain Rabbitry]

I honestly am not impressed with mostany of these rabbits. most of these mini rex are long bodied or low shouldered. They IMO would not pass as show rabbits for me. There are many mini rex breeders a quarter of those do not breed good show/ breeding mini rex.

AA's 100 Grand-Bad coloring. too much ear for his buil. not a good arch. long bodied

Kalebs PCB- She IMO is your best bet. she would make a good brood doe. a little rough and lacking in her rear but not bad.

Paradise Souix-Not a good bet at all. He is low in his shoulders, lacking through his body, rough out his rear. IMO I would not get him

Kalebs CO- low shouldered, lacking in ear, lacking and rough in rear. not a show or brood doe

AA's Angie- low shouldered, very unproportioned, too much ear for her build. too small head for her body. bad coloring. not good at all.

most of these rabbits would not pass on the table IMO and I would consider them pets not brood or show but that is MO. If I got any I would get Kalebs PCB.

Crystal

 

[TCRabbitry]

Just out of curiosity, why wouldn't you recommend breeding a castor to a black otter?

Castor is chestnut, and chestnut is one of the most recommended colors to breed to a black otter.....

 

[Purple Mountain Rabbitry]

I would think thatacastor to a black otterwould give you alot of black overcoloring which is a DQ on the show table and that you would end up with more blacks than castors anyway as black is a dominate color. but to darken them I would use a red to intensify the red band color then to a castor. I would breed a Castor to a Castor for best coloring. A Castor x Castor is doing best on the show table right now.

This site is basic color crossing rules for mini rex

http://mr-colors.tripod.com/

This is what it says for Castor

**CASTOR- is our 1st color in Group 1- there are many variations of castor color, some too gray, some too light, and some too dark. The castors that are doing so well on the show table today should not be crossed with other colors- it will only do harm. Breeding a red in one time to intensify the red band is fine if your castors are gray, but you should only breed Castor to Castor after that. Any reds produced from a Castor/red cross should probably be culled as they may carry heavy ear lacing and blue under color. Breeding to Opal will cause the Castor offspring to carry too much black on the surface color, and be very gray around the lower hind quarters.

This is a test that should be done when examining mini rex to buy

http://cottonwoodfarms.tripod.com/pencil.html

Crystal

 

[TCRabbitry]

Castor is the rex version of a chestnut. Chestnuts are the best color to breed to a black otter to clean up the otter color and give the otter better rufus. An otter is a modified Chestnut genetically.

This is why I am not understanding why someone would say not to breed a castor to a black otter. You would get blacks, black otters, and castors.....

As a matter of fact, if you don't breed an otter to a castor or chestnut from time to time, the color can get washed out.

 

[BlueCamasRabbitry]

These rabbits you posted are all from the same breeder. Why not look up a different MR breeder near you and see what they have to offer?

Some of those rabbits are Okay, but definitely not for a starting herd. If you wanted to improve, then yes...but as for building a herd, I would steer clear of them. Also, I agree with other posters - castor should really only be bred to castor.

Emily

 

[TCRabbitry]

I don't understand that at all either.... Why should castor only be bred to castor, when it can help improve the other colors?

 

[Shaded Night Rabbitry]

Melinda; I've just signed off that Mini Rex are hecka weird.

I do agree, if castors are so typy, I would take a castor, get some recessives in there, and then take it to less typey varieties.

I mean... You figure genetics wouldn't change between breeds? But whatev.

 

[Silver Star Rabbitry]

Thanks for all of the comments! These are actually 2 different breeders. There are other Mini Rex breeders around here, but these are better rabbits than most that I have seen for sale. They all date back to Kaleb's stock and before he sold out, he was the top youth breeder in Louisiana. AA Rabbitry is now at the top, followed by Paradise Rabbitry.


Silver Star Rabbitry
Raising and Showing Quality Silver Marten Rabbits in North Louisiana.

http://silverstarsilvermartens.webs.com/
http://silverstarrabbitry.blogspot.com/

[email protected]

 

[lelanatty]

I think we have some better ones here in TX, want some? :biggrin:

I know a youth MR breeder who took BIS in both shows A and B at Seguin, TX last weekend. I have also been looking for a reason to go to a Louisiana show.

 

[Silver Star Rabbitry]

Sure! lol If ya'll have any nice ones for sale let me know!
I was talking to Debbie White of Casablanca Rabbitry, but she said that it would be a few months before they could make it to another Louisiana show.

Emily

Silver Star Rabbitry
Raising and Showing Quality Silver Marten Rabbits in North Louisiana.

http://silverstarsilvermartens.webs.com/
http://silverstarrabbitry.blogspot.com/

[email protected]

 

[RAL Rabbitry]

I breed castor to castor for the color only. If you cross in other varieties to castor the color will usually be too dark to show well. I will occasionally breed the castors to other varieties to improve the other varieties but usually will only use the resulting offspring for breeding only. My castor line does not carry self or tan so the resuling offspring will generally be fair to poor colored castors.

 

[RAL Rabbitry]

I breed castor to castor for the color only. If you cross in other varieties to castor the color will usually be too dark to show well. I will occasionally breed the castors to other varieties to improve the other varieties but usually will only use the resulting offspring for breeding only. My castor line does not carry self or tan so the resuling offspring will generally be fair to poor colored castors.

 

[SMALL S RABBITRY]

Well 11 years or so ago when 85% of all castors in Texas where to light in color they would breed a black to a castor and then those babies that where castor to a red and that is how I got all of my castors back then and I was # 1 in the state of Texas for 5 years and now really the best way is to breed castor to castor and if you want to get broken castor breed a solid castor doe to a broken castor buck I have always had very good luck with that when we are needing some brokens in the barn........Toby

Oh and they are right about the rabbits you are wanting to buy they are alittle low in the front and all of them looked flat in the rear where they should be round when I get some for sale I will let you know .......

 

[TCRabbitry]

But that's just it, genetics DO NOT change from breed to breed... They are the SAME genes for ALL the colors.... There are other genes that go into making them different breed wise...

THIS would be why I DON'T understand why, when in EVERY OTHER breed, it is recommended to breed a chestnut to an otter, would it be ANY different in mini rex.

 

[SMALL S RABBITRY]

lelanatty wrote:

I think we have some better ones here in TX, want some? :biggrin:

I know a youth MR breeder who took BIS in both shows A and B at Seguin, TX last weekend. I have also been looking for a reason to go to a Louisiana show.

Hey can you pm me there info so I can maybe get some mini rex off of them please I am wanting to add a new blood line in to my rabbitry Thanks......Toby