VANCOUVER: CL Listing For 132 Rabbits :(

[Pipp]

132 bunny rabbits
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Date: 2007-06-24, 6:26PM PDT


it's true, rabbits multiply faster than anyone could think. i started off with 4 of them one year ago and they have multipled now to 132. i need to downsize back to 4 becuz things are getting out of control. they're eating me out of money and home!!! so if anyone wants one or two or three...contact me asap. there are different ages ranging from couple weeks to one year old, assorted colors of everything, loppy ears and normal ears etc. they must be gone by next wednesday or my husband will "accidentally" leave the door open.
Yvonne

* mean replies will not be read so pls don't waste your time
also keep checking back. next week i will have about 60 guinea pigs up for grabs too

• Location: west vancouver
• it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests

 

[Spring]

Oh my gosh.. This is sick..

I'll ask mom tomorrow and see what she says about this.

Why are people such morons.. :grumpy:

 

[JadeIcing]

:shock:Oh man.

 

[Flashy]

Maybe we could entice this person to this forum. She might find people here to take her bunnies, but also could be educated on how to control the amount of bunnies you have, i.e. what to do with the four she wants to keep.

 

[Pipp]

She's received an invite.

Hopefully people here will keep their eye on the ball -- the ball being the rabbits -- and not waste energy lambasting this person.


sas

 

[Flashy]

Indeed, if she comes, then the best way to help her is to educate her, not alienate her.

And if she does come, it might be best to 'lose' this post, so that she can start a fresh

 

[Pet_Bunny]

What kind of bunnies are they?

My son is in Vancouver, but will be leaving for home (Edmonton) tonight.

 

[naturestee]

Yes! Pebbles needs a friend and Stan needs another bunny! Who's going to help me with the peer pressure?:biggrin2:

I hope the owner does come here. Maybe we can help her get the ones she wants to keep spayed/neutered, and make sure the others are separated by gender.

 

[jordiwes]

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132 bunny rabbits - OP

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Date: 2007-06-25, 11:40AM PDT


i'm the original poster of the 132 rabbits to give away. you know, i actually tried looking for homes for them in the most friendliest and kindest way possible but it seems that some ppl dont approve. if we hadnt realized the PROBLEM we're dealing with we wouldn't even have listed them...it would've been far easier to just open the door and let them run free, dont you think?. i came on here yesterday attempting to look for homes for all of them and yes they are all fed healthy diets of hay pellets and vegetables in upmost CLEAN living quarters, we have our four original rabbits fixed already

someone ended up informing the spca of this situation to which they can't really do anything at this point. heck, they can't even TAKE in anymore animals themselves and we've had it. we came here to seek help and never got it, instead got tattle taled on. here you have it...a prime example of driving away animals that neeed help. a meat shop owner has offered me a small fee to take them all off my hands, i guess this would be the most righteous thing to do rather than contributing to the rabbit problem outside that tv constantly sheds light on

yea i'm "an idiot" and "heartless" and "cruel" as you all put in your hate mail and sure contact the spca if you want...this matter has been taken care of, over and done thanks to all you that HELPED

to those that offered to take some off my hands.....thank you for opening your hearts and overseeing the actions of this "idiot"

 

[Flashy]

That's really sad. Yes, she had a problem that got out of hand, but she was trying her best to solve it. Possibly too late, but she was trying.

I hope she does come here anyway. I just feel sorry for the whole lot of them, people and bunnies

 

[Spring]

Oh gosh..

Has anyone gotten any replies or in any contact with this person? Could it be a false ad and someone wanting a reaction from people? I talked with mom about it, and she doesn't think it's legitimate.

 

[Pipp]

another post...


RE: 132 Rabbits - I Saved Two!


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Date: 2007-06-25, 2:37PM PDT


Since everyone is so curious and wondering about the situation of this, I just wanted to let everyone know that I just came back from adopting two very sweet rabbits from this lady. She lives in a very huge house and all the rabbits are very very well taken care of, if I can say so myself. They have lots and lots of hay to munch on. The whole backyard has been turned into a rabbit playground from them to play in and all the cages are kept inside only - **** and span. To top it off, all of them are well socialized and ran to the front of their cages to greet us [as a bonus, their fur is so shiny and smooth].

So for those of you are giving grief to this lady, please back off. I assure you that the situation is not as bad as you guys make it to be. She showed me some of the nasty emails some people have left her and although I can say that I felt the same way when I first read her posts, I no longer feel that way. You only need to see the rabbits, their set-ups, and their huge play rooms to know that this couple loves them dearly. More than three quarters of their huge house is devoted to the rabbits! I cannot say what she plans on doing with the rest as I have no clue myself, although she mentioned she would rather take care of 'things' herself than give her rabbits out to people who are leaving her hate mail but want some at the same time.

For those of you who reported it to the SPCA, shame on you! The matter was promptly taken care of and even the inspector said that the rabbits are in great hands. If you're not sure of how the conditions are and only reading about it, it'd help to at least know more before filing such reports.

Many rabbits had the chance to find good homes but much thanks to all the haters, the lady said she will not be giving out anymore.[/b]

 

[Spring]

That was on craigslist too?

I'm starting to think that this is more and more of an attention seekingad wanting to stir up peoples emotions. I'm going to email her tonight to see if Imight be able to come and check out her rabbits..

I get the feeling this is someone playinga sick little game, but I'm going to see if she'll reply to my email inquiring about them..

 

[buck rogers]

Something definitely seems a little fishy about this. For the sake of the rabbits I hope it is.

 

[Pipp]

No, I think it's real.She lives in West Vancouver, the 'big house' part fits. And it's really easy to get up to 132 rabbits.

I'd probably end up with a bunch myself, and if I wasn't so acutely aware of the shelter situation, Ibe thinking it was pretty funny if I did.

This poor lady just didn't know what she was in for. I didn't doubt they were loved and well-cared for, but unfortunately the rescue mindset vilifies anybody who every even breeds one rabbit, so she was doomed from the get-go. And in Vancouver, they seem to relish abusing people like her.

That said,I don't thinkthe original poster realized that for every rabbit she wanted to give away, there was an equal number ofpotential homes being elimated for the bunnies who ARE in dire straights.Yes, she has132 well-cared for rabbits, but if she gives away 130 of them, it still meansthat 130 rabbits elsewhere will NOT get that care. Potential homes are scarce. So it unfortunately can easily mean chain-reactionabuse, by default.

I just hope she's decided to keep them all-- and gets them spayed andneutered.



sas

 

[NZminilops]

What I can't understand is sympathy for someone who lets breeding get out of control so badly. After the first few litters, most people would understand that rabbit mating = rabbit babies.

I also can not see how they are being so well looked after unless the owner has a large team of people to help her, and she stays home all day and doesn't go out etc. Even if they were caged so that there were 80 cages for all the bunnies, even trying to spend 20 minutes per cage per day would be impossible as there are not enough hours in a day for that, for one person! And if it was only half the cages one day and half the next, that's still all a normal persons waking houses just spent on the time per cage to check food and water, change litter and give each bunny a pat on the head. Housing must not be that large to fit into a house either - sorry but unless you have a mansion or the only furniture in your house is a bed and a tv, I don't see how each bunny could have a roomy cage and you could still have room for all your household goods.

It's fair enough to admit you've had enough, that it's all gone horribly wrong and you can't cope any longer, but I offer no sympathy to anyone except the rabbits here.

 

[OneBadBunny!!!]

This is terrible! I do feel bad for this person, but she really did wait too long to seek help. Those poor bunnies! I wonder what she did with all the guinea pigs. I was upset to see the number of bunnies, but getting that many gps is more difficult as they have smaller litters less often. It is a horrible situation for all involved. I hope she didn't set them free, I hope even more that this was just some jerk trying to rile people though.

I'm no where near that area, but I hope that anyone who is can help those poor critters!

 

[Pipp]

I don't think people realize how easy it is to get to 132.

She had four rabbits, they probably only had one litter, and then not knowing she had to separate them before the female gave birth, poof! The girls arepregnant again the same day.

So two litters each, eight per litter, there's 32 rabbits. She probably got the adults fixed at that point.

Then,not knowing the babies are old enough to breed at 12 or 14 weeks (or whatever it is),she hasfivefemales in each litter each having eight more.There'sanother 80.

Throw in a couple of 'escapees' and'accidents,' after all this --and this can be not much more than a one generation mistake.

Is she irresponsible? TOTALLY!! Is there any point in sending her hate mail? NO.

Yes, my sympathies lie totally withthe rabbits and the rabbits those rabbits are displacing and reproducing down the line.

Asfaras sympathizing with the owner, not a chance -- however that s not to say I don't understand it.

But the bottom line is thatithonestly doesn't matter, at least not until the rabbits are dealt with. THEN broadcast that she's irresponsible.

sas

 

[NZminilops]

Fair enough, I think the estimate of 8 per litter is twice as high as what I'd guess (seeing as some babies don't make it sometimes, and not all litters are that huge). We here are all rabbit people so we can see how it could happen from the 'laws of nature' point of view.

There is nothing I can do to help the rabbits, and I'm certainly not emailing her or trying broadcast hatred of people who have bred rabbits at all. I would have not even even replied to a thread like usually except that the email or reply to the advert of the person who bought two seemed bogus.

It's just sad that this all happened. I can't even begin to imagine what the limited gene pool has done, to 128 offspring from 4 bunnies all mating with eachother.

 

[Pipp]

minilops wrote:

Fair enough, I think the estimate of 8 per litter is twice as high as what I'd guess (seeing as some babies don't make it sometimes, and not all litters are that huge).

This seems to be true if you're a breeder, but for some reason, rescued mix breeds seem to have a dozen. I checked the local rescue stories, and eight, 10 and even 12 seem common. I did a quick average, and came up with eight.

sas