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Elf Mommy

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Here's the problem. I'm teaching about rocks and soil. I live in Florida. There aren't very many rocks here. Seriously... Even our streets are paved with a shell conglomerate. Soooo....my students haven't seen a lot of rocks in the up close and personal sense.

Here's my idea. I need your rocks. :D If everyone who reads this, who is willing to help me out, would pick up a small rock (small is good, I don't want to kill you in shipping), and mail it to me, then the students in my class this year and in years to come would get to see and touch rocks from all over the world. How COOL would that be!!!???!!!!

If you're willing to help me out, please PM me and I will send you the address to my school to send your small rock. We would be willing to reciprocate with a thank you card and a sea shell!

Thanks to anyone who is willing to help me!!!!

Minda


 
Minda, I live in Indiana where we have lots of limestone. How soon do you need it? I will send you some. Do you know of anything else that we might have here that would be good? I know when we were in Alabama the clay was so interesting! we have clay here, but the dirt doesn't turn red!
 
Um I have a small card with 16 sorts of rock from Takaka here that i'd be glad to send you but am I would need it back....Its got green, pink, black and white marble, Hornbeldite, schist, quartz, Epidote, Granite, felspar, quartzite, calcite, wollastonite, garnet and tremolite. If the whole send back thing doesn't work i'm sure I can find you some rocks, they're everywhere lol. And yes how soon do you need it?
 
How soon do you need the rocks? Would you also like some petrified wood?

Please PM me an address and I'll try and remember to get a box tomorrow.
 
Minda, I was wondering what kind of soil info you're using?
I've just finished an extensive soils course using the USDA 38 classification, 7th approximation stuff, and the Canadian Soil System Classification...
I could get you some info on the red-yellow podzolics, and lateritic soils in your region. Y'know, the connection between the soil and the rest of the environment.

I've got a link to soil songs too... Some neat classroom soil activities

How old are your students?

I can take a look and see if I have some international rocks I can send you... What are you looking for exactly?

In case you don't get some of the ones you're looking for ;)
http://www.beg.utexas.edu/mainweb/publications/rockkits.htm
http://www.homeschoolscience.com/favorites/rock_kits.html
 
Well, my husband is a "rockhound", and he got the whole family involved. So we have buckets full of rocks in our yard. You name it, we got it :p. I'm sure we could spare you some :biggrin2:.
Seriously, there's at least 12 buckets or so full of rocks standing around. Lots of them we collected ourselves, from several places in California. My husband also has put some collections together for the kid's schools.
 
Bo B Bunny wrote:
Minda, I live in Indiana where we have lots of limestone. How soon do you need it? I will send you some. Do you know of anything else that we might have here that would be good? I know when we were in Alabama the clay was so interesting! we have clay here, but the dirt doesn't turn red!

There is NO RUSH on this. Even if it comes months from now, I will still share it with the students. They are tremendously enjoying this unit and would be tickled to see rocks coming from all over. In any case, I plan on teaching 3rd grade for at least the next 5 years (it's about time I settled in somewhere), so I can use them from year to year.

Limestone is perfect! I think there's an experiment I can do, putting vinegar on limestone or something. I'll have to look it up. I believe it has a chemical reaction.

I was looking for rocks, but a small baggy of a bit of soil wouldn't hurt either. The students each collected a baggy of soil from outside of their homes and we're comparing them. It's surprising them how different the soil is just here in our own town.

Um I have a small card with 16 sorts of rock from Takaka here that i'd be glad to send you but am I would need it back....Its got green, pink, black and white marble, Hornbeldite, schist, quartz, Epidote, Granite, felspar, quartzite, calcite, wollastonite, garnet and tremolite. If the whole send back thing doesn't work i'm sure I can find you some rocks, they're everywhere lol. And yes how soon do you need it?


PepnFluff, I can most certainly send it back to you! Again, no hurry. I can share it with them any time it arrives and then ship it right back to you! :)

How soon do you need the rocks? Would you also like some petrified wood?

Please PM me an address and I'll try and remember to get a box tomorrow.

Wow! Petrified wood! The students would be so interested in that! I would bet that NONE of them have ever seen and definitely haven't touched petrified wood. I will PM my address as soon as I'm done with this post! Thank you!

Minda, I was wondering what kind of soil info you're using?
I've just finished an extensive soils course using the USDA 38 classification, 7th approximation stuff, and the Canadian Soil System Classification...
I could get you some info on the red-yellow podzolics, and lateritic soils in your region. Y'know, the connection between the soil and the rest of the environment.

I've got a link to soil songs too... Some neat classroom soil activities

How old are your students?

I can take a look and see if I have some international rocks I can send you... What are you looking for exactly?

In case you don't get some of the ones you're looking for ;)
http://www.beg.utexas.edu/mainweb/publications/rockkits.htm
http://www.homeschoolscience.com/favorites/rock_kits.html


My students are 8-10 years old. They aren't at a sophisticated level of classification (I had to teach them, and am still working on getting them to remember, what classification IS). We are classifying based on our 5 senses. The older grades do similar units and go more in depth into the classification systems.

That first link for the rock kits is INSANELY reasonable! After Christmas, I will definitely order a class set. Even the shipping is good! The second link you provided is also reasonable. Thank you for the great information! If I get budget money next year to buy supplies, I know where it will go. :)

I'm looking for rocks of all shapes and types. One of the things the students have to do is come up with ways to classify the rocks and 4 categories in that classification. Such as COLOR as the classification, and then white, brown, orange and other for the categories. All I have at the moment are some dark grey landscaping stones. Doesn't help much for classification. :)

I'd love the links to the songs and activities!!!

Well, my husband is a "rockhound", and he got the whole family involved. So we have buckets full of rocks in our yard. You name it, we got it :p. I'm sure we could spare you some :biggrin2:.
Seriously, there's at least 12 buckets or so full of rocks standing around. Lots of them we collected ourselves, from several places in California. My husband also has put some collections together for the kid's schools.

Thank you for the PM, Hazel-Mom! I am looking forward to seeing what you send, as well as the photos!!!

Thank you ALL!!!! What a great message board we are! :D

Minda
 
Lexi had a piece of geode that she gave me to send also. It's got a rustyline of mineralsthrough it and everything.I think the outside would be limestone but I am going to get you some of the good limestone then send it to you. I'll see what else I find.

My parents' house has a Bedford Stone (limestone from Bedford, Indiana) exterior. I didn't realize for a long time that not everywhere gets that! LOL!


 
Minda,

I would love to help out. My house is full of rocks - I collect them from everywhere! I'll gladly send a bag of samples out to you. I had put together kits for my scouts with an info sheet. I have gotten many samples locally as well as off the iternet and includes minerals, ingeous, metamorphic and sedimentary rock. The kits included talc, rose gypsum, quartz, mica, iron ore, pumice, basalt, flint, slag (man made igneous), granite, gneiss, shale, slate, limestone, marble, sandstone, fossil samplesand bituminous coal all in a handy little ziplock bag.

We alsolove shells and Matthew would be very excited to receive one from Florida!

You can PM me the school addy and I'll get the rock/mineralsamples right out to you.



Rock song sung to tuneof row, row, row your boat . . .

Sedimentary rock

has been formed in layers,

often found near water sources

with fossils from decayers.



Then there's igneous rock

here since Earth was born,

molten lava, cooled and hardened,

That's how it was formed.



These two types of rocks

can also be transformed,

with pressure, heat, and chemicals,

metamorphic they'll become.



Pam
 
Elf Mommy wrote:


Limestone is perfect! I think there's an experiment I can do, putting vinegar on limestone or something. I'll have to look it up. I believe it has a chemical reaction.
calcium carbonate

Put a piece of chalk, seashell, and eggshell in with the limestone and watch them all bubble! Marble as well as any other calcium carbonate rock will also dissolve a little in vinegar. Good to tie in with acid/base neutralizationif you are covering that also.



Pam


 
I know this may sound silly, but I'm wondering if it's legal to send rocks overseas? I had someone in Ohio send me some fossils he dug from an ancient riverbed once and they tore the packaging open at customs before it left the USA and took them all out.
 
I'll gladly send you a rock, although maybe after the postal strike would be better!

I live in a chalky rock place (as far as I know)... like the white cliffs of Dover (they'll be bluebirds over.....) etc so we get a lot of bits of chalk even in gravel!

I'll see if I can find you a rock! I'm pretty sure it will be easy to find!

Fran :) :hearts :brownbunny
 
Minda, please PM me with the address you want the rocks sent to. Be happy to share what we've collected over the years. I have rocks from Herkimer, NY, with Quartz Crystals ("Herkimer Diamonds") in them too. I can send you some Garnets (still in the stone) from Gore Mountain, NY.
 
Here in Oregon we have lots of Pummice which is unique to us because it is from when Mount Saint Helens blew, it's the onyl kind of rock that floats and it full of holes.. very cool! We also have lots of obsidion and tiger obsidion really cheap and petrified wood. I'll definitely look around for you and see what I can dig up. Used to be a rock hound, but most of my rocks are boxed up atm. :)
 
NZminilops wrote:
I know this may sound silly, but I'm wondering if it's legal to send rocks overseas? I had someone in Ohio send me some fossils he dug from an ancient riverbed once and they tore the packaging open at customs before it left the USA and took them all out.

this is what I found:
International Shipments





To prevent customs delay, allshipments from the US or overseas containing rocks & rock pulps only should be labeled: "Rock samples for analysis only - NO Commercial Value". Shipments containing only rocks do not require a permit for import.




All shipments from the US and overseas containing soils/sedimentsor both rock and soil/sediment samplesmust include a copy of the CFIA soil import permit and should be labeled: "Soilsamples for analysis only - NO Commercial Value" or "Rock & Soil samples for analysis only - NO Commercial Value".
So I guess rocks are ok, but soil isn't.
 
Bo B Bunny wrote:
Lexi had a piece of geode that she gave me to send also. It's got a rustyline of mineralsthrough it and everything.I think the outside would be limestone but I am going to get you some of the good limestone then send it to you. I'll see what else I find.

My parents' house has a Bedford Stone (limestone from Bedford, Indiana) exterior. I didn't realize for a long time that not everywhere gets that! LOL!

Yes, a house made out of limestone would be a very unusual sight in Florida! The kids would be in awe of the geode!

I would love to help out. My house is full of rocks - I collect them from everywhere! I'll gladly send a bag of samples out to you. I had put together kits for my scouts with an info sheet. I have gotten many samples locally as well as off the iternet and includes minerals, ingeous, metamorphic and sedimentary rock. The kits included talc, rose gypsum, quartz, mica, iron ore, pumice, basalt, flint, slag (man made igneous), granite, gneiss, shale, slate, limestone, marble, sandstone, fossil samplesand bituminous coal all in a handy little ziplock bag.

We alsolove shells and Matthew would be very excited to receive one from Florida!

You can PM me the school addy and I'll get the rock/mineralsamples right out to you.

I will PM the school address right after this post, Pam. Does Matthew like any kinds of shells in particular? I can't wait to pick some out for him! Now, the only thing left for you to do is make an audio tape of you singing the song for me to play for my students ;) hehe!

I'll gladly send you a rock, although maybe after the postal strike would be better!

I live in a chalky rock place (as far as I know)... like the white cliffs of Dover (they'll be bluebirds over.....) etc so we get a lot of bits of chalk even in gravel!

I'll see if I can find you a rock! I'm pretty sure it will be easy to find!

Fran, I didn't realize you had a postal strike over there! I hope it's over with soon! A natural bit of chalk would peak the students' interest, for sure. I think the only kind of chalk they've seen is the colored pieces I give them to draw on the sidewalk outside. :)

Minda, please PM me with the address you want the rocks sent to. Be happy to share what we've collected over the years. I have rocks from Herkimer, NY, with Quartz Crystals ("Herkimer Diamonds") in them too. I can send you some Garnets (still in the stone) from Gore Mountain, NY.

How awesome!!! My sister used to work at Herkimer Home!!! She made her own colonial outfit and everything. :) I'll have to tell her that you're sending me a stone from there (she'll want to steal it from me, hehe). And garnet is my birthstone, so that would be cool to show them a gem in its raw form!

Here in Oregon we have lots of Pummice which is unique to us because it is from when Mount Saint Helens blew, it's the onyl kind of rock that floats and it full of holes.. very cool! We also have lots of obsidion and tiger obsidion really cheap and petrified wood. I'll definitely look around for you and see what I can dig up. Used to be a rock hound, but most of my rocks are boxed up atm. :)

Wouldn't it be cool to do an experiment with the kids to let them see a rock float??!!? Bet I'd raise some eyebrows that day! hehe I would love to get some obsidian and the petrified wood, as well. That would be a different texture of stone for them to feel. Thank you!!!


Thank you again, everyone!!! I'm going to take lots of photos of the rocks everyone sends to post up here and show you some of the things they will do with them. :)

Minda
 
Here's another link to a forum where they are discussing trading rocks and minerals overseas.

http://www.mindat.org/mesg-8-113925.html

It sounds like the way to do it is to declare a nominal value for each stone for customs purposes, and label the package

"Geological Samples for Educational Use Only, No Commercial Value"

Which...well...that is what it's for in this case, after all. :D
 
Thanks, I got your PM. I also have some flint and chert pieces found in the corn field and our garden. Some of these were worked by Indians over 4,000 years ago. They are common to find in this area. I'll try to writea little info to go with each piece.

I'm a thinin' I can also send some lumps of our wnderful Ohio clay. We have a lot which is why so many pottery companies have located here over the centuries.

Will mail after the Christmas rush.

Ann

 
Elf-Mommy, I used to do a summer program at my kid's school, one year we did science, which included geology. We grew crystals ourselves, the kids were thrilled. I will send you the recipe if you like. All you need is borax, pipecleaners and containers, for one of them, so it's very easy. The other used some more tricky recipe, but still with chemicals you can find at the store. We got some awesome results. I bet your kids would like to do this too (mine were all 1st to 3rd graders, so it's really easy, though you of course will mix the chemicals yourself).
 

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