A few of hte hollands that I've had, either presently or in the past, will sit nice and pretty and posed in their cages, but seem to refuse to do so on the table . . . So be careful of them as you are looking about. THe standard will help to a point, but defenently look for a breeder that has some great stock and see what they can show you. I had help from Larry Washburn when I was working on Hollands, right now I'm working a lot with Gerhart because I've decided to sell out my hollands sinceI love the dutchies more