Online Pedigrees

[Shaded Night Rabbitry]

X3 Another question thread. I need to stop asking so much. LOL!

Anywho. I was browsing some websites for ideas on how to construct my own. A really cool idea was on a few. Click the rabbits name and/or picture, and their information is displayed. A pedigree, date of birth, winnings. All that fun stuff.

That got me thinking. Is it too "in your face" to do that? I know if I went to someone's site, and all the rabbits had pedigrees with 30 legs per animal, I'd be a little... Put off. At the same time, it makes it nice to see what great lines the rabbit comes from.

The other reason I can think of it not being there is just the fact that most people probably don't have the time to write up every single pedigree for each and every bun, including broods and juniors if displayed on the website. (Like mine are) But at the same time, it's another back up in case my computer dies, or the cat manages to pee (AGAIN) on my pedigree book.

Anywho, I've started putting mine together, and decided to add in pedigrees along with that information. I do like the look of it, and it could quite possibly make or break a sale for one for the for sale buns.

 

[TCRabbitry]

I personally don't like it... It makes it too easy for other people to steal all the info and use it for themselves..

I'd hate to think that people do it, but I know they do....

 

[Blaze_Amita]

I put sire and dam on mine, but I don't like the idea of people being able to steal the rabbit's information because they don't feel like buying the actual rabbit/offspring and this way they don't have the acess to weights, winnings information~like my one buck I did put under his information he had 1 leg, I am very leary about buying, I always look at the pedigree to make sure it's complete before I buy- hence the reason I've been doing weight updates on my rabbits and updating my pedigree book to get all the weights.

 

[Shaded Night Rabbitry]

Ooh. I guess I should specify.
The pedigrees I have on my site are names/winnings.

This for example:
http://shadednightrabbitry.weebly.com/mt-x-kiddo.html

 

[timbaland]

I suggest putting the Sire and Dam plus what they were (markings, coat type and color). That's it. Otherwise (like other users have pointed out) theft can be taken place.

Of course telling them the genetic background of the rabbit is required but they don't need to know every single sire and dam UNLESS they buy it. This is what I go by in my head. All "in my opinion" stuff though.

 

[RAL Rabbitry]

I sold ayoung rabbit as a pet with no pedigree to a woman. Apparently she wanted to start breeding and showing the buck. She went online and found a pedigree and copied it and called it his. He was her only black buck and she bred him. She advertised his young with a full pedigree. I did confront her about it and she started lieing through her teeth saying it was a different rabbit. I asked to see the rabbit at a show and it still had the same tattoo that I put in his ear and had recieved a thorough grooming to remove the white spot and scattered white hairs-the reason he was sold as a pet. She missed one of the spots that he had though and I pointed it out to her. It wasn't hard for her to find a pedigree to boot leg off line. I won't put pedigrees on my website.

Roger

 

[Shaded Night Rabbitry]

My thought process is people will do that ANYWAY.

I mean. On my website, after the next generation, you'll be able to find all the information anyways. You'll be able to track from a little, to the parents, to their parents, to quite possibly the parents of them. If not, follow on to the Lots-A-Hop's website, and you can find many more generations there. She still has "4~5 great" grandparents.

And over all, it's rather easy to make up an entire pedigree. Hell, I could do it in 5 minutes. And to be honest, I'm sure some weights on pedigrees are faked. I have pedigrees from rabbits that have no registered ancestors. Do I believe all the weights are 100% honest? No. Just like I can't trust 100% that the varieties are all correct.


On another forum, we were chatting about pets with no pedigrees, and someone pointed out that they tattoo the word PET in the right ear, as a safeguard. Just a thought for pet sales.

 

[pamnock]

Shaded Night Rabbitry wrote:

On another forum, we were chatting about pets with no pedigrees, and someone pointed out that they tattoo the word PET in the right ear, as a safeguard. Just a thought for pet sales.

Tattooing "pet" in the rabbit's ear has absolutely no effect on its potential show career. I've judged rabbits with "CULL","PET",and "DQ" in the left ear.

The only way for a breeder to prevent pets from being shown is to not sell them.

It's true that people can easily steal peds off websites. We've had people steal photos of our rabbits and claim them as their own on their sites.

Top breeder's best show animals are well known on the tables - they don't need to advertise.

 

[TCRabbitry]

I just found out that having a tattoo in the right ear doesn't prevent the rabbit from being registered. Although, properly culling will....

I think I will stick to that. I prefer properly culling to selling pets anyways.

 

[TinysMom]

TCRabbitry wrote:

I personally don't like it... It makes it too easy for other people to steal all the info and use it for themselves..

I'd hate to think that people do it, but I know they do....

:yeahthat:

I thought about doing this when I bred lionheads - but I had many experienced breeders recommend I NOT do that.

Some of my stock comes from really good breeders and buy putting that information "out there" - it can (and will) enable folks to steal that information.

Since breeding I've learned the hard way there are great people out there - but a whole lot more untrustworthy people too.

 

[TinysMom]

RAL Rabbitry wrote:

I sold ayoung rabbit as a pet with no pedigree to a woman. Apparently she wanted to start breeding and showing the buck. She went online and found a pedigree and copied it and called it his. He was her only black buck and she bred him. She advertised his young with a full pedigree. I did confront her about it and she started lieing through her teeth saying it was a different rabbit. I asked to see the rabbit at a show and it still had the same tattoo that I put in his ear and had recieved a thorough grooming to remove the white spot and scattered white hairs-the reason he was sold as a pet. She missed one of the spots that he had though and I pointed it out to her. It wasn't hard for her to find a pedigree to boot leg off line. I won't put pedigrees on my website.

Roger

I forgot to add - I talked to another breeder about this recently (someone who has bred for a number of years - like 10 or more) and he said whenever he sees someone who has pedigrees on their websites - he knows they're "amateurs" (his term - not mine) and he doesn't buy from them or go back.

We were at a show at the time and the two or three other breeders involved in the discussion all agreed - to them that screams "newbie"...

I told them about how I'd considered doing it but heard about others stealing them, etc. - so I was glad I never did that.

 

[lelanatty]

Very good point being made here as reasons not to put pedigrees on the web. I know this isn't going to help any now, but there is a very easy way to do it. In Evans Software you can export your peds to a web file and I have seen a few web sites that have used it for their online peds -- which makes it all the more easy for someone with the same program to steal them.

 

[BlueCamasRabbitry]

I personally just never thoughtabout putting peds on websites, until I saw the peds on your site, Megan. I thought it would be a possibly good idea, but now that people are saying it's dangerous, and screams "newbie", I won't - also mainly because I have no idea how to set up the HTML to get the ped-like template.

Emily

 

[Jaded]

I wouldnt put the fill pedigree on the website, I put the dam and the sire on mine, people can steel your pedigree and use it for something else.