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Bobcabbit

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Hi, so sad place to put our first post but we do need advice. We got a new, our first, bunny. We stupidly got her from a pet store but honey fell in love with her. Well...once we researched a bit...him. Regardless, we took Peter to the vet for his initial checkup, plus we were worried about a bald spot behind his head and his genitalia looked different than we had seen pictures of. Anyway, vet has no clue on the bald spot (we are hoping it is normal since he is a lion head, and the skin appears healthy), however both of his upper teeth are broken off near the gum line, although not detached. He is getting fixed on Tuesday and we are getting the teeth fixed or possibly removed at the same time. On a side note the vet says they should grow back, another worry though he does not appear to have any molars?

Any advice for taking care of a bunny with little to no teeth would be greatly appreciated and input on the bald spot and lack of molars would be great as well, please?
 
If he is an older rabbit and had a previous owner, it could be he had tooth problems and had to have the molars removed. The short front teeth may be the same kind of thing. If he has malocclusion, then the front teeth may have been clipped. If you let the teeth grow out then you'll be able to see if there is a problem or not. I'm not sure if a rabbit with no molars needs a soft food diet or not. You may need to soak pellets to soften them for him. Your vet should be able to give you some ideas for special care that might be needed.

It may be law in your state that the pet store has to cover the vet bills, but in any case I'm glad this little guy is in a good home and being well taken care of.
 
How old is the bun approximately?

The teeth will grow back unless they are totally removed. It may be best to have them removed, if they will continue to cause problems when they grow back. Some bunnies have bad genetics when it comes to teeth. Typically with the incisors, the top teeth keep the bottom teeth from being too long, and vice versa, as long as there is a good diet and the teeth are aligned properly. If the bottom teeth are bad, the jaw is misaligned, etc, it may be best to just have them all out. Usually the opposite tooth must be taken out (upper and lower) or trimmed often because all rabbit teeth kind of work in opposition to each other.

Most bunnies will have molars, unless they've also been removed. At least I've never heard of a bunny not being born with molars. It is possible, I suppose. If he had really bad molars for a very long time, they could have been resorbed, according to some sources. It is ok to have a bunny with no teeth. We've had a few on the forum. You do have to keep an eye on their feeding, and cut veggies into smaller pieces, but they do just fine.

Usually bunnies won't have bald spots either, unless there's a scar or they're molting or there's some other overall health issue. A female bunny that is mounted by a male (or an aggressive bunny of any gender mounting a male to establish dominance) may have the fur at the back of her neck ripped out, in which case it would grow back. Other issues that cause hair loss, other than nutrition or overall poor health, are pretty obvious. The skin would look weird, have a big bump under it, or be scaly and dry.

You'll want to make sure the vet is rabbit-savvy. We have a listing of vets that members have approved over the years. So far, yours sounds fine.
http://www.rabbitsonline.net/f21/nm-rabbit-savvy-vets-x-10095/

Here are some helpful links on rabbit dental disease: http://www.medirabbit.com/EN/Dental_diseases/Dental_diseases_main.htm
http://www.medirabbit.com/EN/Dental_diseases/Stella/Stella.htm

If he's otherwise healthy, it's probably a good idea to do the dental stuff at the same time as his neuter. It may be necessary to do dental help before the neuter because he may need to gain body weight and condition (if the bald patch is due to poor nutrition) before a surgery that is important but not to fix something immediately life-threatening. This is a curious situation. It sounds like the poor guy was in pretty bad shape before you got him. It is cheaper to have the teeth just filed instead of removed, and less painful, and it may be a better option just to get him to be able to eat normally for the time being. The vet may find something more serious going on with his teeth once he gets him under anesthesia and is able to examine well. Sometimes one good tooth trimming will set a bunny on the right path; sometimes they need them frequently for life. Unless it's pretty clear a trim isn't going to cut it (jaw misaligned, etc), I'd try that first instead of removing. Tooth removal is very painful for bunnies.
 
Oof sorry for the novel I wrote. Soaking the pellets may help if he won't take them normally but it's not necessary for most toothless buns to have their pellets soaked.
 
Haha, novel is what we need at this point. As for how old...we have no clue and neither does the vet, she says she is comfy with bunnies but not so much with getting ages, so we are not sure there. We are pretty sure he had a previous owner as the pet store mentioned he was on commission. We will also be looking into pet store covering vet bills depending on what we end up with.

Although she may find something else the vet is planning on just clipping, the only reason she did not just remove today was that she said there was a lot of mucosa holding the teeth on and she did not want to hurt him, and since we are getting neutered anyway she would just wait. She also mentioned that he is a tiny bit underweight, but that it should not interfere with the neutering. Hm, I am really wondering what the bald spot is, it looks healthy even the vet said so, no scar, redness, swelling, dryness anything. Hopefully he is just molting...and if nutrition were and issue that should be slowly rectifying now. We had not considered filing, mainly because there are broken off within a few millimeters or so of the gum line....she is just going to remove the dangling pieces when she puts him under. We are going to do anything we can to make sure the teeth have a good chance of growing back...but I am not he will be able to eat well with the teeth dangling half off as they are.

He seems to be taking the pellets, we are having trouble introducing hay though, makes me wonder if he is having a hard time eating it or if he just has never had it.
 
Knowing that it's not a very young bunny is helpful. It may mean that the hair loss has to do with bad nutrition before you got him. Broken teeth might be from someone trying to clip them at home (terrible idea but it is done), and he may have had a really bad mouth going on for a long time, especially with the no molar thing. As for the hay, most of what bunnies do with it is with their molars, so if he doesn't have them he may have a hard time eating hay. Some toothless bunnies eat hay without problems, but it may just be that he doesn't know what to do with it.
Here are some stories of our forum's toothless bunnies (most of whom have sadly passed away by now)
http://www.rabbitsonline.net/f27/toothless-rabbit-48350/
http://www.rabbitsonline.net/f27/gum-infection-issue-45337/
http://www.rabbitsonline.net/f27/teeth-removal-37071/
http://www.rabbitsonline.net/f27/those-who-wonder-36181/
http://www.rabbitsonline.net/f40/senior-bunnies-pellets-34050/
http://www.rabbitsonline.net/f40/chopping-veg-20689/
 

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