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irishlops

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the reason i am making new topic.

1. what the title says.

2. its plainly wrote/typed

3. i need it, because i acutally forgot she mght be preagnt!:shock:



questions-

would i be better off getting her spayed now? (sire and dam are brother and sister, 4months old, 5m in jan)

how many hutchs will i need? and reasons why.

could she have reasobed them? (sp? and its winter)

will she be ok during birth. is she young?




 
REMEMBER_ MAYBE A MUMMY BUNNY



um... it goes against my morals..... but i will think bout this. thanks clevername:)
 
1. I would bring her to a vet, a good rabbit vet, and have him palpate her or use whatever method he finds best, to find out if she is pregnant or not and then go from there. I would have her spayed because:

A)She's too young. B)The doe and buck are brother and sister which can cause alot of problems and could end up costing you alot of money in vets bills and you wouldn't be able to rehome the babies. C) I don't think you are able to care for the mother and babies.

2. In total you need three hutches. One hutch for the mother. One hutch for the father. One hutch for the babies when they are being weaned off the mother.

3.Sorry I don't understand three.

4. The fact that she is such a young doe increases the chance of her having complications in birth such as stuck kittens etc. As someone here once described it, breeding a doe that young is like a 13 year old having a baby. I do highly recommend you and your mother take your doe to the vets and see if she's pregnant. There is a high chance she is not pregnant. He might not be mature enough to get her pregnant, she might not be mature enough to get pregnant, or a combination of both.

Just to add, the way I see it is, the cost of the trip to the vet and the spay could cost alot less then the bills for the kits who could have alot wrong with them, teeth problems etc. The cost to buy hutches for EVERY baby and the cost to feed them, because yes, if they have health problems you cannot give them away and the chances are no one would take them anyway.

At the end of the day, their your rabbits so you and your family need to do what you think is best for all of ye and the rabbits, good luck!
 
:biggrin2::biggrin2:thanks irishbunny, thats alot of good infomation for me!:biggrin2::biggrin2:
 
Does that are too young appear to be at little risk from early pregnancy. The most common issue that I've seen from such young pregnancies is re-absorption or miscarriage.

Put a nest box in the cage and keep it in there until it is 35 days after the point that the doe was exposed to the buck.

Let's keep our fingers crossed and hope for "no" babies.

In the future, be more careful to keep them separate so these accidents don't happen.

Pam
 
thanks, it happened on the 20th of december so......its the... 15th jan sort off date..
 
irishlops wrote:
REMEMBER_ MAYBE A MUMMY BUNNY



um... it goes against my morals..... but i will think bout this. thanks clevername:)

In what way does it go against your morals?

Yes, you may be putting an end to a few bunny embryos that are in development, but are they really worth risking the life of your rabbit over? Its not a right or wrong issue here, there is a bigger picture. Your doe could be harmed through this and its important to recognize that.


 
So when is your mam gonna come on? Also have you any more questions? Tell your mother if she wants, she can post any questions she has herself too.
 
There is no more risk than normal for the doe to conceive during this age. Although we customarily breed a little later in the US, preferring to show our does through their junior stage, Rabbit Production (8th edition)recommends breeding the does as soon as theyreach sexual maturity:4 months for small breeds, 4 1/2 to 5 1/2 months for medium breeds and 6-7 months for large breeds.

There is no scientific basis for arguing that the doe is in danger of complications because of her age.



Pam
 
n a few days time.. MAYBE 2morrow no promises.....

i dont really agree sorry clever name,... its my religion.... and you hve your points i respect that. yes i will ONLY think about it..

im headin off now, that op in belfast makin me tired......:bed:
 
pamnock wrote:
There is no more risk than normal for the doe to conceive during this age. Although we customarily breed a little later in the US, preferring to show our does through their junior stage, Rabbit Production (8th edition)recommends breeding the does as soon as theyreach sexual maturity:4 months for small breeds, 4 1/2 to 5 1/2 months for medium breeds and 6-7 months for large breeds.

There is no scientific basis for arguing that the doe is in danger of complications because of her age.



Pam

on the 20th of december it happened, so if she is when is she due????

thanks for ur pont.... and theey are dwarf lops.
 
I am a non-practiseing catholic, which means I know what catholics do and don't believe in. The catholic church also preaches thatyoushouldn't cause anothers suffering. What happens if the babies are born with problems and you can't afford the vets bills? Won't the rabbits be suffering? That also has to be considered, the spay means you will stop possible suffering....
 
i am tired now.. zzzzz

but yes u are right........... i will think bout this .

i might not be on 2 morrow, but i might be on with mum.

login off now,...

(thanks for pointin that out:biggrin2:)
 
pamnock wrote:
There is no more risk than normal for the doe to conceive during this age. Although we customarily breed a little later in the US, preferring to show our does through their junior stage, Rabbit Production (8th edition)recommends breeding the does as soon as theyreach sexual maturity:4 months for small breeds, 4 1/2 to 5 1/2 months for medium breeds and 6-7 months for large breeds.

There is no scientific basis for arguing that the doe is in danger of complications because of her age.



Pam

Huh, you just sent me a on wiki tangent just now. And you're correct I haven't found any really good solid sources outlining if there are any health related risks to breeding a rabbit too young.

I've just taken from personal experience. A pregnancy takes a lot out of a rabbit. All my does noticeably loose weight from the experience and I've heard of cases were does have died from being bred to often. Plus I've had multiple breeders tell me never to breed a doe before she hits adult weight.

What you said makes sense though, if doe's body can't handle the stress of pregnancy a miscarriage would be the bodies natural way of taking care of such an issue. Intuatively, I would say breeding a rabbit too young would carry risks, however I don't seem to be finding sources to back up those claims. So I'll let it drop.

I own a copy of Rabbit Production and this recommendation seems appropriate. Although you have to consider the motive of the source. I've found a few instances throughout the book where I didn't agree with what was printed. This book, like "Storey's Guide to Raising Rabbits" concern themselves with producing rabbits in the most efficent way possible, and I try to keep that in mind whenever I consult it.
 
The name of the book "Rabbit Production" can be a little misleading because it also encompasses information outside the realm of production animals, and even addresses the unique care and nutrition needs of pet rabbits.

Pam
 

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