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Ivory

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Hey all! I had my spring break last week, unfortunately it wasn't very much of a break as it was busy, but I have a moment now so I wanted to discuss my new bunny, Sofia, and Erik!

Erik has been a solitary bunny most of his life; for a while he got along ok with Ivory but that didn't work, and then got along with Holly, but he died. Throughout the months since then I've tried to find a suitable match; this summer I had thought that Pancakes, a lop from the rescue, would be the right girl but he quit eating so I stopped pursuring that.

After his hairball problems requiring hospitalization in November I brought home an entirely new bunny- Erik was active, hyper, happy, eating and pooping as though he were born to do it, and it was obvious he was lonely. I have long hours at school sometimes and don't live very close to campus, and therefore don't have time to drive home most days. I actually left some time in the morning and in the afternoon on alternating days so he wouldn't be alone completely the whole day.

Erik loves me with all of his little bunny heart. I have been deemed by the others at the rescue as his one and only love. But when he starts grooming my stuffed animals and acting really sad when I walk out the door, it's obvious to me that he would be happy with a friend. I know that he would be such a happier bun if only he could remember some etiquette...of course he's a rabbit and that doesn't always work...

At any rate, enter Sofia. I've actually considered Sofia adopted. She is a Mini-Rex and she's beautiful, and she's sweet, and uses her box perfectly. She doesn't enjoy being held but that's ok, I don't really pick them up much (I sit on the ground to pet and play with.)

Erik and Sofia have been courting informally for about the last month, "Formally" for the last week (meaning living in the same house) and it's been either good or not so good.

When they're outside on completely neutral ground, they do wonderfully. I brought them to my parent's house for spring break and they did very well when put in the yard together or in the carrier while driving. They lie next to one another and chillax.

But the second you get them inside- namely, Erik's territory- he turns into a freak. He does not want her there. At all. They have been living close to one another for the last few nights and don't fight through the bars of the cage, but when I get them out, he chases her like crazy. He wants to be groomed. If she would groom him, he would probably accept her. But he is very overzealous in his demands, absolutely shoving his head under her to be licked on, and she gets annoyed with him or scared of him so she doesn't do it. He gets mad when she doesn't groom, so he starts nipping, which irritated her, and it turns into biting, then she runs off and he chases her until she slows down, he sticks his head under her mouth, and it all starts again.

I don't have the room in my apartment for two separate rabbit cages. They would have to either be right next to one another, which is currently stressing Sofia out to no end, or they have to live together. I don't want to bring her back to the rescue because they do great when in neutral ground- She has actually groomed him and they've laid together.

But...how do I stop him from being so...overzealous? Maybe try the bathtub? The only place in the apartment that is neutral is my wash room, which isn't exactly suitable for bunnies. I can't bring them outside as dogs poop in the grass.

Any ideas from the bonding veterans?
 
Sorry I can't offer much advice on the bonding - Shadow and Jester still fight after 9 months! But, I'm glad that you have got Sofia, and it's sounds promising that they are friendly on neutral territory.

When we wanted Pernod to groom Shadow, we smeared something edible (can't remember what now) onto Shadow's head, and Pernod licked it off. Good luck, and ... pictures would be nice ;)

Jan
 
Sounds like when we bonded Ollie and Mango. Ollie is very needy, he always wants to be groomed. He used to follow Rose around and shove his head under her all the time, and he did it to Mango when we started trying to bond them too.

They were great in the bathroom, or the garden - neutral territory - but once we moved to the living room - "shared territory" - Mango started getting annoyed with him.

We did a few short sessions and ended them as best we could, but there seemed to be no improvement each time.

To be honest, what worked in the end was the endurance method. We put them in the living room, grabbed a towel each (for throwing over them if the fights got bad), and sat it out. I can't remember exactly how long we sat there, but it was practically two full days in a row. Eventually they settled down, and we moved onto the kitchen (where Ollie lived), and surprisingly there wasn't much work left to do in there.

I think that may have been because Ollie saw the living room as his also (he does think he's boss of the world...) so the kitchen wasn't much of a stretch.

Anyway - that's what worked for us. Hours upon hours sat watching them together until they got bored of fighting each other.

Edit to add - I just want to point out with the smearing something on the head to encourage grooming - watch that one, because we tried that too and Mango ripped Ollie a little bald patch on his head!
 
Ugh Sorry it took so long to get back! I would love to post pictures but my camera battery is DEAD and I don't know where the charger is! Ugh I know its annoying. Anyways, the buns are doing pretty well overall. Erik still is being needy, but Sofie is giving a little bit. They aren't fighting, and mutually binkying. I don' t have them living together completely (there's a fence between them) but they're doing really really well overall. I haven't had any fighting or anything and I think Erik is really enjoying her company. He just needed a bunny that was right for him. Hopefully they'll get really buddy-buddy soon...

I promise pictures. I really do. I miss ya'll and the whole forum.
 
Hi Ivory, have you thought of building a new cage for the 2 of them out of the NIC panels? That way it would be new to both so they wouldn't get territorial about the cage. Just a thought.

It sure sounds good what you are doing.

Susan :)
 
Sounds like you're doing the right things, I guess all you can do is keep trying and waiting...

About the building a new cage thing... This might confirm my idea, but I'd like to ask for opinions... I'm thinking about getting a girlfriend for my boy, should I get her before I introduce my new bunny to his hutch (which is not built yet)... so neither of them would be territorial yet and I could put them in at the same time. is this a good idea? if the timing is right and everything...
 
Well guys Erik and Sofia are now living together all the time in the same cage! They are doing GREAT! Here is a picture, it's a cell phone pic so not great, but it's still something.

 

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