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Hi,

I'm the owner of an un-neutered 8 1/2 year-old male lop-eared rabbit (Thumper, he's grey and my sister chose his name not me :) ). He's always lived in the house.

Anyway, going back to around October, I started to notice a slight bloodiness and loss of fur at the tip of his tail, suggesting he'd somehow cut it (or possibly chewed it). The vets, who have always been pretty good with him, gave me baytril which I administered by syringing it into wholemeal bread. This lasted about a week and it seemed to be starting to clear up, but intermittently it would look bloody again and the very tip of his tail remained visible. I took him back again two or three times, and the vets never seemed too concerned, and advised us to continue bathing his tail with warm salt water applied with soft cotton wool.

However the problem continued, with the tail regularly appearing slightly bloodied at the tip, and I'm basically certain that this is due to him chewing the tail and aggravating it, having noticed a bit of blood on the fur above his front legs one or twice. when I took him to the vet recently they applied pressure to the tip of the tail to see if he showed any signs of pain. He didn't bat an eyelid, so they advised that this suggested the very tip of the tail may need to be removed under general anaesthetic (obviously a slight risk), presumably as the tissue was dying or dead.

However, given that this would mean wearing a collar for some time after while the tail healed, together with the risk and his age, I was reluctant. The alternative they suggested was to put him in a collar anyway and see if it would heal if he could be kept from aggravating it. They gave us a collar to try and he was fiercely resistant to wearing it, and again, given his age, and the fact that he's been his usual contented self throughout all this, I'm reluctant to take either option; slightly risky surgery would do more harm than good even if successful should he reject the collar, and the collar alone is a non-starter for the same reasons.

So having abandoned those options, I'm wondering what I might be able to do to try to manage the problem. On reflection, salt water, given the salt, may have attracted him to chewing it and so on, so I wondered whether some kind of anti-septic cream or similar, so long as it wouldn't be harmful to him, might do the trick? I wondered whether something like that could possibly serve a dual purpose of helping to keep it as clean as possible, and maybe by its smell deterring him from chewing etc.

Any thoughts on this, or other suggestions?

Thanks!
 
There are many things that could cause a rabbit to self mutilate- pain, itchiness, boredom, etc. You'll want to rule out a skin parasite like mites, being the cause, and maybe have a fecal float done to rule out any internal parasites. And based on his age, you may also want to have him checked for arthritis and spondylosis, as pain and discomfort from one of these could also be a cause as well. Xrays may be needed. If it is due to pain, metacam may be helpful.

http://www.medirabbit.com/EN/Skin_diseases/Mechanical/Mutilation/Selfmutilation.htm

You may also want to look into finding a more experienced rabbit vet if your current vet isn't very experienced.
http://www.rabbitsonline.net/f28/finding-vet-13366/
http://rabbit.org/vet-listings/
 
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you could also try a soft collar like a stuffed sock around his neck rather than a stiff collar. Might do the trick. :)
 
Okay, thanks guys, I'll get looking for a vet and suggest those possibilities to them regarding X Rays and so on to assess his general health.

Whilst I'm doing that, is there anything anyone would advise with regard to the tail itself?
 
I second trying the soft or tube collar. That's the only deterrent I can think of. The problem with applying a cream or something else, is it has to be safe if ingested, and usually it just attracts the rabbits attention to the area and they will groom the area even more.
Soft and tube collar:
http://www.rabbitsonline.net/f18/monty-my-big-baby-bunny-2012-a-68956/index25.html
http://www.rabbitsonline.net/f27/sophie-spayed-pulling-her-stitches-out-32808/

Hopefully it's just some sort of skin irritation or something the vet can determine with a physical exam, but if you do end up needing xrays, try to see if the vet can do conscious ones. At your rabbits age, it would be better not to use GA to get the xrays, unless absolutely necessary.
 
My rabbit somehow tore the end of her tail off when she was 8, no idea how. She had to have the tip amputated, which went well. She had a bonded partner who was her carer (Bandit had spondylosis, although this was unrelated to the tail because she couldn't groom herself) and Oren would wash her bottom for her; unfortunately his grooming sometimes kept making things worse. The tail healed up though, thankfully.

In my experience the worse the concoction smells or looks, the more they want to lick it! (My attempts at getting Bandit to stop eating her ramp backfired...)
 
Hi,

I'm the owner of an un-neutered 8 1/2 year-old male lop-eared rabbit (Thumper, he's grey and my sister chose his name not me :) ). He's always lived in the house.

Anyway, going back to around October, I started to notice a slight bloodiness and loss of fur at the tip of his tail, suggesting he'd somehow cut it (or possibly chewed it). The vets, who have always been pretty good with him, gave me baytril which I administered by syringing it into wholemeal bread. This lasted about a week and it seemed to be starting to clear up, but intermittently it would look bloody again and the very tip of his tail remained visible. I took him back again two or three times, and the vets never seemed too concerned, and advised us to continue bathing his tail with warm salt water applied with soft cotton wool.

However the problem continued, with the tail regularly appearing slightly bloodied at the tip, and I'm basically certain that this is due to him chewing the tail and aggravating it, having noticed a bit of blood on the fur above his front legs one or twice. when I took him to the vet recently they applied pressure to the tip of the tail to see if he showed any signs of pain. He didn't bat an eyelid, so they advised that this suggested the very tip of the tail may need to be removed under general anaesthetic (obviously a slight risk), presumably as the tissue was dying or dead.

However, given that this would mean wearing a collar for some time after while the tail healed, together with the risk and his age, I was reluctant. The alternative they suggested was to put him in a collar anyway and see if it would heal if he could be kept from aggravating it. They gave us a collar to try and he was fiercely resistant to wearing it, and again, given his age, and the fact that he's been his usual contented self throughout all this, I'm reluctant to take either option; slightly risky surgery would do more harm than good even if successful should he reject the collar, and the collar alone is a non-starter for the same reasons.

So having abandoned those options, I'm wondering what I might be able to do to try to manage the problem. On reflection, salt water, given the salt, may have attracted him to chewing it and so on, so I wondered whether some kind of anti-septic cream or similar, so long as it wouldn't be harmful to him, might do the trick? I wondered whether something like that could possibly serve a dual purpose of helping to keep it as clean as possible, and maybe by its smell deterring him from chewing etc.

Any thoughts on this, or other suggestions?

Thanks!
--I donot see my post for a response here,--try betadine-(antiseptic)--salt is very painful-and rabbits are stress animals-thusly triggering a very bad side effect of the ecosystem-(gi.tract)-medical alert.!--a blood test by an exotic dvm specialist could be the answer,--no head cone -he won,t be able to get his much needed cecotropes..--please keep advised,--sincerely james waller :kiss1::love::biggrin2:
 

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